Hierarchical keywords via exif data

I am trying to import plant photos into Lightroom4 with their Family, Genus and Species along with Location keywords, by placing the data in the image using exiftool. But failing. One hierarchy seems to work, but not more. I can replicate what Lightroom creates, but it does not seem to read OK.

The problem is not really the exiftool command: rather that I have been
trying various combinations of exif data to create hierarchical keywords
on import.
I am using
exiftool -csv=test.csv .
with one image, and various contents of the HierarchicalSubject of the
csv file. I check what I have created using
exiftool IMG_0016.JPG | less
I added keywords within Lightroom and saved the metadata to see what it
wrote: it seemed to be HierarchicalSubject, Subject and Keywords. But I
seem to need just HierarchicalSubject when I import.
If I define keywords Big and small within Big, and create
HierarchicalSubject: Big|small
then on import I get the hierarchical keyword OK. But if I try to also
set up Big2|small2, by using
HierarchicalSubject:Big|small, Big2|small2
I get a single keyword small2 nested in "small, Big2", nested in Big.

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