Live paint changes my shapes?

I have a star that I applied the pucker and bloat effect to and I made it into a live paint group via the object > live paint > make and it changed it into an elliptical shape. Why is this? I am using cs5.
Thank you.

Do you mean why an ellipse and not the original star shape? Or just that Livepaint won't work on it after applying the effect? For the latter, I get this warning when trying to make a Live Paint Group:

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Live paint vs. just selecting shapes and filling them

I traced an image in cs5 and am not quite sure what the benefit of using live paint to fill shapes with color with the live paint bucket over selecting the shapes and filling them the traditional way. Besides being able to fill shapes with gaps, what is the benefit of live paint?

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not quite sure what the benefit of using live paint
The benefit of a "flood fill" tool in a vector program is that it can be used to create filled paths corresponding to shapes which only appear to be defined, but are not actually otherwise fillable paths.
For example: Get the Line Tool. Draw four paths in the form of a tic-tac-toe diagram. Now suppose you want to fill that middle "square" with a color.
But there is no actual square to which you can apply a fill. There exists only four open paths. The "square" is just the visual bounds of the intersections of the four open paths. A flood fill tool creates the necessary path and applies a fill to it.
Illustrator's specific flood-fill tool is the so-called Live Paint feature. It's called "live" because it is implemented as a "live effect." That is, the paths it creates automatically are not "nailed down" until the effect is "expanded." That is, the effect gets automatically re-run and re-drawn each time you modify the path(s) to which it is applied. That's why the program has to mark the set of associated paths as a special kind of object that exists just for the benefit of the feature: A "Live Paint Group."
JET

Any issues with keeping shapes in Live Paint Mode?

1. Are there any drawbacks to keeping a shape in Live Paint Mode and not expanding it?
2. Are there any drawbacks to using Live Paint Mode at all? Does it change the way the artwork works with other shapes in AI?
Thank you.

Depends on how you define drawbacks. What context?
Same as 1. Also, about which interactions are you talking?

Big problem, Live Paint Bucket changing strokes

Hi all, so in the first picture you can see the finished line work. When I fill the face with a color in Live Paint, it changes the strokes and makes them appear jagged in varying widths, it's especially obvious on the eyes, ears, and hair - it looks like it is applying Pathfinder>Divide. I have the stroke set to nothing when I apply the fill, please help!

how about this?
1. duplicate the lineart and put it underneath the layer and lock the original
2. convert the lineart into an outline stroke by going to Effect>Outline Stroke then Object>Expand Appearance
3. Open Pathfinder Pallete and then select all and Unite/Add it.
4. change everything to no stroke and no fill
5. select all then convert it to live paint
6. deselect the converted path and start using live paint bucket.
7. after that expand it and ungroup so you can move the fill path. also you'll notice that it will remove all path you have been converted.
reply if it works,

Taking out a live paint group as a separate shape

i'm making a map showing arid areas, dry areas, plain, mountains. i'm using the live paint bucket function with great difficulty. i'm using this for first tim, i have almost zero experience in illustrator . i'm stuck now. the greean area on the left can't be isolated out, or lets say cut paste as a new individual shape. this is really annoying. kindly help me out. I'm using illustrator cs5
go to the link to get the file.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/wk6tyy

Wade_Zimmerman wrote:
I think you might have to expand the live paint group in order to do what you wish to do and in the end you can then simply use the fill proxy in the tool panel to fill other areas with colors.
THAT did it!! expanding is the trick. thanks i gotta expand everything to get it right ..:)

Live Paint Suddenly Changed??? PLEASE!!!!

Grr. I have jusgt recently began using live paint and I was in love with it! I live painted an entire illustration and then after almost completing my poster, I noticed my illustration had changed. I used a lot of gradients in my illustration and they were all gone, and there is this black stroke around all of my work. WTF happened!!!
This is what I had originally.
This is what I have now!! Utter trash. Ugh.
Here is a close up of the black line ****.
PLEASE HELP! I am absolutely clueless and totally desperate.

There are some issues with live paint in CC.
You'd better not move it, copy/paste it or add lines to it. If you want to do one of these, better expand beforehand.

Dividing a Shape for Live Paint

Hi, I have the following image above where I'm trying to add color to different aspects of the drawing. For instance, I'd like to be able to add color to the hair (ie the eyebrows and hair on top of his head) and I'm using live paint to do this. The problem is, some of the live paint areas spill into each other, ie the hair spills into the outline of the head, etc. So I'm wondering, what is the best way to go about dividing these areas so live paint recognizes them as two different entities? What I've been doing currently is drawing a line segment, and then using divide below, however this gives me unpredictable results sometimes and I have a hunch there is a better way.
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Like this
will give this when filled

Live Paint Bucket

Hi!
After painting live paint bucket i can't edit my picture. If i find vector element necessary to me into layers and try move it or change color my picture becomes ugly.
I can't realise it. How i can edit it?

If you want to change the of a Live Paint Group use the Live paint bucket or the Live Paint Selection tool to select the area you want to change the color, It is in the same tool group on the toolbar as the live paint bucket and the shape builder tool. Once you select an area you should be able to use the picker to change the color or a the swatch panel or the color panel.
If you want to change the shape of an object that is part of the Live Paint group use the direct select tool the white arrow.
If you want to add to the Live paint group you draw your shape (path and select both the new path you want to add and the live Paint group and use the Merge Live Paint button in the control panel at the top of the interface below the menu.
Read about working with the Live paint Groups in the help files

Round Corners on object in Live Paint Group

Hello,
When I apply the Round Corners effect onto any one object in a Live Paint Group, it is applied onto the Group itself, thereby onto all objects in it instead of just the one I selected. Is there a way to apply the effect just onto the one object?
Thanks in advance!

That allows me to apply Round Corners to the object I want, but I lose the advantages of the Live Paint Group (most importantly being able to move my original shapes around and have the resulting paintable areas update to my changes).
Another option I see is to apply Round Corners to the object and expand it before adding it to the Live Paint Group, but of course then I lose the ability to edit the effect.
I guess I'll have to go with one of those.

Live paint object gradients

I have a live paint object made up of many shapes and lines. I need to put different gradients into many of the live paint areas. However, when I try to adjust the way a gradient fills one section of the live paint object, using the gradient tool,all of the gradients change. Is there a way to change the direction and angle of one area of the live paint object without affecting all of the gradient filled areas in it?

Actually, now that I look again, you can manipulate the gradient with the Gradient Tool after selecting with the Live Paint Selection Tool.
I thought I had seen a discussion of getting around the horrible highlight, but I haven't found it yet.

Why won't Live Paint work for me?

Synopsis: Illustrator won't let me use Live Paint, or rather, Live Paint won't let me use it. I tested it out on a random file by creating shapes with some of the tools and it worked fine. However, with any image I try to use, it won't work. This is what it says anytime I try to select the area and color in.
It also doesn't allow me to use Image Tracing. I don't know if the two are connected or not, but I find it strange.
I'm going to explain all the steps I went through from start to finish to create the image.
First, I took the picture using a digital camera (naturally.) Then I uploaded the pictures to iPhoto. I can't remember if I edited it or not, but if I did, it was mostly cropping. I then placed the picture on my desktop and took it to Photoshop. There I put it to grayscale and messed with the levels to give some contrast. I then saved it as JPEG. After that I put it in Illustrator and I started tracing it. The blue in the picture was traced in Layer 1, while the red was in Layer 2. (I thought that maybe had something to do with it, but I highlighted just the red and had the same problem as before.)
So yeah, I'm at a standstill...can't get anything done at this point. It's CS6 for Mac. It's possible I screwed with something without even realizing it (I am new to this), but if I did...what did I do? And can I fix it?

Click the Selection Tool (The Black Arrow)
Choose Select > Select All from the menu
Hold down the Shift key, and click the photo.
This should leave you with everything elected except the photo
It may help to spend a bit of time playing with random shapes and objects, and reviewing the help files for the tools, in order to learn the basics of selecting objects in Illustrator. Illustrator isn't always as intuative as Photoshop and many have trouble if they simply jump right in.

Thin white line between line art and live paint fill?

I am using live paint to paint cartoon character illustrations. The artwork is brought into Illustrator CS3 and live traced. Then I convert it to a live paint group and use the paint bucket to fill. Everything looks fine no matter how much I zoom in. If I bring the AI file into Photoshop CS6 I can see a thin white line between the black line art and the fill. This is most noticeable where black meets black. I can also see this sometimes in file previews while browsing through files. If the white line cannot be seen in Illustrator is the file ok? I did just upgrade to CS6 if that would make a difference.
Thank you for any help.

If the white line cannot be seen in Illustrator is the file ok?
Without knowing specifics,nobody knows.
"Okay" for what?
If it looks okay to you in Illustrator, then it's okay for viewing in Illustrator.
If the export of it does not look okay in Photoshop at 1:1 or higher zoom, then it's probably not okay for whatever you're going to do with that raster image.
If it's printed to a low-res composite printer, then it may be okay, because the printer may not be able to resolve the whitish pixels.
If it's printed for commercial (color-separated) reproduction, it may not be okay, depending on the scale at which it will be printed, and on other considerations partially described below.
The autotrace routine does not build traps. Typically, when you color-fill cartoon line art manually, you don't make the shapes that define the fills merely "kiss" the black line work, as would the default treatments of a stupid autotrace. The black line work typically overprints the fills, thereby creating printing traps.
Suppose a portion of your cartoon is a hand-drawn closed circle. The black line work is irregular; it varies in width, having been drawn with a marker or a brush. The circle is colored in with a medium green. There are no sloppy gaps in the original between the green and the black.
You scan it and autotrace it. Unless you apply some deliberate care to make it do otherwise, the autotrace is going to create a compound path, filled with black, and with no stroke; and a green simple path which (hopefully) exactly "kisses" (abuts) the black path. Adobe's on-screen antialiasing of the edge where the two colors abut may or may not cause your monitor to display a faint whitish or grayish sliver between the two colors.
Similarly, Photoshop's rasterization of it, or the rasterization of a raster export filter may do the same, and may actually result in some off-color pixels along the edge. (Your description of the scenario kinda raises the question of why you are auto-tracing something that you're then just going to rasterize in Photoshop anyway. Why do that? Why not just work with the scan in Photoshop?.)
So let's leave Photoshop out of the picture and assume you are autotracing it because you want vector artwork. You zoom way in to see if the whitish sliver enlarges. It doesn't, so you assume it's just an aberation of Illustrator's on-screen antialising. And then someone tells you you're in the clear. But are you? Not so fast.
Let's assume the artwork is destined for commercial (color-separated) printing. Further assume the color of the autotraced black is 100% K, and the color of the autotraced green is 100Y 50C. Three inks involved. None of those three inks are shared between the two objects. So even if the paths do, in fact, perfectly abut, there is no "wiggle room" built in for the minor alignment shifts that almost aways do occur on press.
Bottom line: Even if you do determine that the common antialiasing aberations that frequently occur on-screen in Adobe apps is just that—just an onscreen aberation, that does not necessarily mean your file is suitable for commercial color-separated reproduction.
First, you need to understand that autotracing is not the one-click, instant "conversion" of a raster image to vector artwork that far too many think it to be. Just like everything else, you don't just launch a program like Illustrator, start autotracing things willy-nilly without understanding what's really going on. Just like anyting else, you can use an autotrace feature intelligently or...well...not.
You have options. Illustrator provides an auto-trapping feature. Read up on it in the documentation so you understand what it's all about. Alternatively, you can expand the results of your autotrace, select all the black linework and apply a composite color that includes 100% K and reasonable percentages of C, M, and Y (a so-called "rich black"). Or,depending on the artwork and the desired results, you may consider doing the autotrace as centerlines so you have stroked paths, not just filled paths for the linework. That way, using the flood fill (so called LivePaint) will cause the auto-created fill objects to extend to the paths, not just to the edges of their strokes. Then set the linework to overprint.
At any rate, if you are doing this professionally, you need to read up on the principles and practices of trapping and color separation.
JET

Live Paint Bucket in CS5

Using Illustrator on a Windows box running XP sp3 with an Intuos 2
I've been using Illustrator CS2 for awhile and have upgraded to CS5. I need some help with a problem I'm experiencing with the Live Paint Bucket. I select the illustration, go to Object > Live Paint > Make and get the Blue bouning box. I choose my Fill and Stroke colors and go to work. It seems to work until I get a closer view, around 800%, and then I notice that the stroke isn't filling in some of the strokes completely (there appear to be gaps within the Path that don't show in a normal view). Its leaving artifacts (I don't know what else to call them) unstroked. I've attached two two examples of these artifacts. I've also tried to correct this with the Live Paint Selection Tool which I'm also having a problem with. I've released the Live Paint group and checked that all my paths connect and have corrected any problems I can see.
This hasn't helped either. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong. I've consulted the Help and either I can't read English with comprehension or........I can't find the correct words to bring up the problem.
I thank you in advance for any help you can give me.

I'll try to help. Since I don't know what you expect to see, it is hard to say what you're doing wrong. The gold line end, in the top left boxed area, can be selected with the Live Paint Selection tool and either deleted or painted with "none". Clicking on the line can be tricking with the selection tool because it tends to select the fill instead. Zoom in and you will see when it's selected, then just hit "delete" or type "/" to assign a stroke color of "none" to the selection.
You can also using the Live Paint Bucket tool to do this. With the Bucket tool active, hold "shift" to highlight strokes, then choose "none" and click. You can scroll through the color choices using the left and right arrow tools.
I'm not sure what you want to change in the center section. Remember, you don't have to release the Live Paint object to make edits to the paths with the pen or pencil tools. They remain fully editable. You can also add new paths to the Live Paint object by either working in "isolation mode" or by dragging paths into the Live Paint object within the Layers Panel.

How can I reduce the number of lines in live paint?

I'm trying to use adobe illustrator to color the background of a photograph green while keeping the person in the picture the same color.
I used live trace to get a vector image and then attemped to use live pain to finish the job, but I end up with thousands of blue lines and gaps that are too small to color in. Is there anyway i can reduce the number of gaps so that i can actually paint the background?
I've already tried the gap options and adjusting the settings to small medium or large did nothing.
If this isn't possible, is there any other feature in adobe illustrator that would allow me to achieve my goal?
I have a photograph with a person in the middle; i want the person to remain the same and the background to be changed to green.
Thanks for your time.

Would be easiest to fix this when tracing.
You could try the magic wand tool to select them (but you'll have to expand the live paint object)

Live Paint Bucket tool Question

Hello Illustrators.
Its been a while since I've used this tool. But I'm facing an issue I cannot understand.
I'm seeing some tutorials and as I try to follow along I cannot have the same functions of the tool as demonstrated.
My live paint bucket tool does not have the same options as the tutor. He can swipe his arrow keys and get the colours from the colour pallet, while I only have one colour available.
I have to continuously have to go to my colour pallet and choose a colour in order for my shapes to be filled. But when it comes to colouring a stroke of my shape then no problems I can swipe and get my colour
selection. Id like to be able to use it for my fill colour as well to be swipe my arrow keys and see the colours available if it makes sense.
Top Image is what Id like to achieve.
The bottom image is what I have in my art board document. as seeing only one colour is available, and that I have to click on my colour pallet to get a colour. No swiping with arrow keys is available.
Thank you.

Hello Craig!
yes it is! Its the 1st time I'm coming across this problem, I'm getting frustrated not being able to work this issue out...
As you can see everything is checked.
And also as you can see, like I was stating in my original post, the option to swipe with arrow keys only applies to the stroke of the shape, and not the fill.

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