10.4 running OS 9 or Classic

New to Mac and have G-5 and want to run my Canon digital camera and printer and scanner that all require OS9 or Classic. Don't know what to do.

I downloaded several updates that canon had but am
having trouble installing them.
If you got a .PKG file, just double-click on it and it will launch the Installer for you.
I can extract but am
not able to install.
What problems are you getting?
Don't know what's going on. I
wrote canon and griped about the discs reading good
for all OS 8.6/X and subsequent but not being able
to install. Wish they would just give me new discs
instead of going thru all this. And I don't know
enough about Mac to troubleshoot.
What problems are you having, exactly?
And Walt Mossberg said Mac was so easy and trouble
free. From the mail I have been seeing on this site
there are a lot of unhappy campers out there.
This ain't nothing compared to Microsoft's or HP's discussion sites.

Similar Messages

Running OS X9 in Classic Environment DST

I have a PowerMAC G5 that is running OSX 10.4.9 and I run Outlook X in classic Environment and everytime I look at my calendar in Outlook the time is off by one hour because of DST. I do not have the option to change the time in OS 9 so wondering if there is a fix for this. The time is set correct in OS X 10.4.9 but not in the classic Environment. Any ideas on how to change the time in OS 9?

Hi, aramos -
Although a patch has been released for OSX for the change in DST dates, there has been none released for OS 9; and probably will be none, unless some non-Apple programmer decides to do it.
While in Classic, have you tried opening the Date & Time control panel? There is a setting for DST in that - take it off the automatic setting, and then checkmark the "Daylight-Savings Time is in effect" option.
If that has been done, and the displayed times are still an hour off, then compare the settings for Time Zone in both OSX and in Classic - both need to be the same, else the displayed time will be off. That setting is also made in Date & Time.

Problems running ed. software in classic mode in OSX - software freezes up.

Hi,
I run a school lab. I am wondering if there are things I can do to help troubleshoot running software that requires classic mode. I eMacs that run 10.3.9 - 10.4.8. They all have 512MB of ram. I have the machines boot into classic mode on startup. This is working ok. The problem lies in using the actual software. Obviously some software does not freeze up much. some tend to freeze up frequently. Can anything be done. I have read some threads. The threads I've seen relate to classic mode freezing when it is initially starting up. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Dan

As long as classic is starting up ok then you're fine. I would keep a copy of a good trimmed down, System Folder with all of the necessary extensions needed. Then when one goes bad you just delete the bad System Folder and copy in a good one.
Make sure you set the memory higher on needed classic applications. I have seen this necessary in certain apps. Also, sometimes the standard additions file inside scripting additions will get corrupted.

Running 10.4 and Classic from an external drive

I just installed 10.5 on my work machine (PPC G5) and to my dismay found out I cannot run classic applications.I have one application (never updated to 10.0 or above) that accesses some archived files. I don't need it very often but the files are critical when needed.
Since I don't need to do this often I'd like to install 10.4 on my external Firewire drive (Apple Partition Map) and reboot whenever I need the archived material.
Can this be done? Is there a recommended procedure for doing it? Does anyone know of any problems doing this?
Thanks in advance for any help provided.

For more info try http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=99
or http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=726

Exercising/ Running Marathon with Ipod Classic

Hi there and sorry in advance if this is a tired and already answered question. But I looked and could not find a similar topic.
I run extensively 5 mile a day, even in winters. And workout extensively too, plyometrics, etc. And I am wanting to buy a new ipod. Music is my life and I have a very enormous collection of music.
Here are the questions
1) The max capacity available is with the ipod classic 120 GB. Which is an excellent choice for me. BUT is it a good choice for someone like me who is going to be running around with it and exposing it to jerks and bumps and a lot of movement during play?
2) Is the ipod touch a better option (64GB) if I were to use it extensively while running, gyming etc? I understand that everyone will give the usual stuff about flash based memory Vs hard disc (in case of classic). But is that really the case or are there Ipod classic owners who subject it to a lot of abuse and have never reported problems?
I only ask because the difference in terms of money for Ipod 120 GB classic Vs the new ipod touch 64 GB is quite a lot.
Your help and direction to further articles/ research would really help me. I greatly appreciate you taking the time for reading this and choosing to answer.
Thank you

is the obvious answer, but I think that if you are going to be using it for this then the classic is too big a risk to take.
From my experience, hard disks can sometimes take quite a bit of bashing about, but nothing like flash based memory does. It seems very hit and miss, some people manage to get away with it for quite a long time, but if you use a classic for this purpose then there is a big risk of it falling over after a very short amount of time.
Basically, if you can take the financial risk of needing to replace it every six months then go for it if the extra capacity is important, but if a damaged ipod will result in no music at all for a while then it's got to be flash.

Which recent Macs run OS9 best in Classic Mode?

I'm not sure if I'm posting this in the proper forum. I wasn't sure where to post.
I have a old Power Mac tower with OS9 that's taking up a lot of space and I'd love to get rid of it. I've been using OSX on my laptop for years.
The problem is that I have zillions of documents in OS9 that I need occasionally so I'd like to transfer them to a newer and smaller computer that's capable of running Classic mode reasonably well. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
Thanks!
macbook Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Hi monimac;
Since all of the recent Macs are based on the Intel processor which is incapable of supporting Classic, the short answer is none.
As I see it you have two choices here, either migrate the documents over to an application that runs under OS X or get a second hand systm that still supports Classic.
When I made the migration from OS 9 to OS X, I did not find converting my documents over to OS X applications to be that difficult of am undertaking.
Allan

Can't run software in Classic mode

Boy, I've tried to fix this myself and just can't. I have a new out-of-the-box Mac Mini with a generic USB keyboard. I've got some old Mac software (really old) which is really a main reason I bought the mini. I can't get Classic to run because it's not already installed. I have the OS9.2.1 disc, but I can't boot from the CD (I tried pressing C on bootup -- either my Mac can't boot from CD or my keyboard doesn't communicate properly). When I try to run the OS9 installer to get Classic to work, I get the hair-pulling error message that I need to run the installer in Classic
mode.
A friend said I need the discs which came with the Mini, but I don't think there are any. Can the software which should have come with it be downloaded and burned on to a new CD in order to create a bootable CD?
Argh!!! Please help!
Warren

Thanks -- I did try that, just forgot to mention it. the CD isn't one of the options in startup disk. It says I can choose the hard drive or the network, and I've tried both. A friend said that Mac Minis can't boot from CD -- don't know if that's correct or not, but I can't seem to get it as an option.
I've tried to find any CD that may have come with the Mac Mini -- my friend said to look for one called "additional software and apple hardware test CD that came with the Mac Mini" but that is nowhere to be found. Either it didn't actually come with it (my hunch) or the staff in the receiving department took them out for safekeeping and hid them in a drawer somewhere and have forgotten. (Also possible.)
I can't imagine that I'm the only person in the world with this problem, but my tech support staff warned me in the first place. I wanted to try using some macs mixed in with our PC setup (because they can run this software, and because it seemed easy) and they said that they wouldn't be able to provide much support, since they're all PC people. I figured "how much support can it need? They're designed to be easy to use!" Oh well.
I'd really be keen to get any more suggestions from anyone who can help!!
Mac Mini Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Running with the Classic...

Is this a real big problem? I noticed the past week after running/biking with my Classic for the past eight months, that now when there is a song playing and I go to turn the volume up or scroll through my cover flow it interuptes the song that's playing. Can that be from the months of the classic bouncing around as I was running or riding? is there any help for this?

Hello Big Anth,
And welcome to Apple Discussions!
Have you tried restoring the iPod to see if that helps the situation? Keep in mind that this will erase all the songs and files from your iPod so make sure you have them backed up on your computer first before proceeding. Restoring the iPod will restore the software the iPod uses as well. I suggest this remedy because the problem may be that a file or part of the iPod's software has become corrupt.
If the problem continues, it may be a hardware issue with the iPod, more specifically the hard drive. As to whether or not the iPod's hard disk was damaged while biking and running I don't know. It could very well be and has happened to many others who would run, jog, or bike with their iPod. I wouldn't recommend it, but I will not condone it either. The decision to continue doing it is entirely up to you.
The only suggestion I have is to attempt a restoration of the iPod via iTunes as mentioned earlier. Another suggestion would be to do some error checking of the actual iPod's HDD. How you do it depends on whether or not you have a PC or Mac machine. Just do a simple Google search for "check iPod's hard drive" and you should receive a plethora of sites that can assist you.
If you use Windows, you will right->click on the iPod's drive icon in "My Computer" and choose Properties from the Shortcut menu. From there you can head over to the "Tools" and there should be a section for "Error Checking". Just make sure you to check box boxes and then wait for the process to finish then restore your iPod via iTunes.
If you use a Mac, you would use Disk Utility's "Repair Drive" option on the iPod, and again restore the iPod via iTunes afterword and see if that helps any.
Here is another known fix which involves completely reformatting the iPod.
[Erase Your iPod - The iPod Super Fix|http://www.methodshop.com/gadgets/ipodsupport/erase/index.shtml]
If you have any other questions, comments, or concerns ask away.
Hope this helps a bit.
B-rock

"Classic" 9.x on 1 GHz PowerBook G4 running OS 10.4 "Tiger"

Is it possible to install and run the so-called "Classic" 9.x on a PowerBook (1 GHz) which is already running OSX 10.4.3 "Tiger"? Can I do so from an external drive? The PowerBook shipped with the 10.3.9 software, but I did a clean install of the 10.4 version and have kept it updated. I have some programs and files I would like to be able to run and use, but they need the "Classic" OS.
PowerBook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.3) 1 GHz, 768 MB DDR SDRAM

Hi, cappie -
Welcome to Apple's Discussions.
If you mean can it use OS 9 as aboot OS, probably not if it originally shipped with OSX 10.3.x.
This Apple KBase article can help identify which PB G4 1.0GHz model you have (there were several) -
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=88248
This Apple KBase article indicates that only the first PB 1.0GHz model can boot to OS 9 -
Article #25114 - Mac OS 8, 9: Compatibility With Macs
The other models can use OS 9, but only in the Classic mode - running as a program while the machine is booted to OSX.
Any can use OS 9 (Classic) from an external firewire drive (and probably from a USB drive, but USB is so slow that doing so is not recommended), including being able to boot to it for the model that is OS 9 bootable.
As far as installing it goes -
If your machine is one of the first PB G4 1.0 GHz models and you want to be able to use OS 9 as a bootable OS, the only source it can be installed from is the original set of disks that came with the machine - it requires a model-specific version of OS 9.2.2.
Otherwise, for use only as Classic, it can be installed from the original set of disks that came with the machine, or copied from another install. In order for it to be used as Classic it must be OS 9.1 or later; OS 9.2.1 and OS 9.2.2 provide better compatibility in that mode.
These Apple KBase articles can help in installing Classic from the original set of disks, as appropriate for your model -
Article #107383 - Mac OS X 10.2, 10.3: How to perform Mac OS 9 clean installation with Restore CDs
Article #42929 - Using Restore Discs with Mac OS X 10.2 or later
Article #151871 - Mac OS X 10.3: Installing Classic
Article #301408 - Using Restore discs with computers that ship w/ OSX 10.3.7 or later
Article #86775 - Install Mac OS 9 to Use Classic Applications

AS I FOUND OUT LATE, LION DOES NOT SUPPORT ROSETTA, WHICH SUPPORTS QUICKEN AND CLASSIC AOL, AND MANY OTHER APPS. CAN I TAKE LION AWAY AND GO BACK TO SNOW LEOPARD?

I found out after the install of LION, that it does not support Rosetta, which runs Quicken and the classic AOL software and a myriad of other apps.
Can I go back to Snow Leopard? Is there a way to retrieve my thousands of saved E mails, which are saved on my Mac?
I still see the filing cabinet with my screen name but cannot get them to open.
Please help! Lion may roar, but the fact it does not support apps like quicken means it purrs.

I had the Apple store wiped out my hard drive and I restore my last hard drive downloard by first placing Snow leopard DVD in the DVD drive and holding "C" when turning on the machine then I follow the instructions. I am back on snow leopard and trying out two finance software to replace Quicken for mac 2007. I am trialing Quicken essentials and ibank. They are both compatable with LION. So when I am ready will download Lion again. Also, Micorsoft Office needs to be 2011 version for it to work on Lion

Classic freezes for one user, not another

Hello,
For a couple of years, an older iMac in our office has been running Classic just fine with Quicktime version 5.0.5, even though we always got the warning that we should use 6.03. We turned the warning off, and Word & Excel both run fine in the Classic environment.
Recently I set up a new user on this same computer, and she is gettng the usual warning when Classic starts up about using 6.0.3. She ignores it and continues on, but the problem is all OS 9 apps lock up for her. They open, but then you can't do anything in them, and we have to force quit Classic.
This makes absolutely no sense to me. I can log in as the original user and that user can still use the Classic apps just fine without freezing. Change over to the new user, and everything locks up! It's the same computer, same apps, same system folder. What could the problem possibly be?
Seems QT 6.0 is no longer available, so apparently we are stuck with the 5.0.5 that we have. Any ideas how to fix this?
tia

Thanks for the offer, but I have that. Unfortunately it's an updater so it only works if you already have 6.x.
Since 6.0 is not available to download, does anyone know if it's perhaps part of an OS update that maybe I could get my hands on it that way?

IMac G5 PPC Using OS X 10.4.10 & OS X Classic Mode--Can They Work Together?

I do not have a system folder for OS 9 on my hard drive and an Apple technician said I cannot run OS 9 Classic mode on my computer. However, David Pogue's book "Mac OS X Tiger Edition, The Missing Manual" and many of these Apple discussion posts seem to indicate that running Mac OS 9 on my iMac G5 PPC with OS X 10.4.10 should be possible. Would someone be able to help me? Can I run the Classic mode and, if so, how would I get the necessary stuff into my computer? I still have my original Mac OS X Tiger (includes Xcode 2) Install DVD version 10.4. Thanks!

Hi, Mark. You may have misunderstood the Apple technician. I hope so, because if he said what you thought he said, he was dead wrong. You can indeed run old OS 9-based applications in Classic mode on your G5, if you use the Classic-support installer you'll find on one of the discs that came with the computer to install a suitable OS 9 System Folder on your hard drive. What you can't do on the G5 is run OS 9 *as an operating system*, without OS X running at all. Classic mode uses a slightly modified version of OS 9 as a sort of super-application or "shell" within which older, non-OSX-native applications can run under OS X.
Check the "Read before you install" file(s) on your original iMac OS Installer Disc 1 for instructions on installing Classic support from that disc or set of discs.

OS-9 applications crash Tiger Classic, worked fine in Panther Classic

Greetings,
I recently installed OS-X Tiger and upgraded to 10.4.10 incl. all security and Java updates. Some older OS-9 applications (e.g., Chessmaster 4000 and some of my own software I created years ago), which ran flawlesslyl in the Panther Classic environment, now crash Tiger Classic. In fact, even 10.4.10 gets screwed. E.g., empty ghost windows appear that cannot be removed or the upper Tiger menu bar is empty. Only a computer restart sometimes solves the problem, not the forced quit of Classic or an OS-X Finder relaunch.
When I rebooted from OS-X Panther again, I got told that there was a problem with the "new Classic". So I set preferences for a different, not updated (by OS-X Tiger) 0S-9 System folder - and my old applications ran flawlessly again.
Right now I have to switch between Tiger and Panther. Is there a workaround to have Tiger Classic run older OS-9 applications? Obviously, there is a problem with the "new" Classic.
Some OS-9 applications like Photoshop 5.5 run well in Tiger Classic. Therefore, I can rule out a general problem with my Classic environment. OS-X updates do not exist for some scientific software I use.
Thanks in advance for your advice,
Dietmar
PS: Apple states that there is no firmware update required for a G4 Quicksilver Mac.

dietmart wrote:
Update: I realized that Tiger's new Classic environment cannot handle OS-9 applications that require 256 or fewer display colors for operation. In fact, the new Classic environment will not even start up successfully, if 256 colors are set.
That is not correct. I run Classic under Tiger with 256 colours fairly often. I have one very, very, very old game (Harpoon Classic) which won't run unless the system is set to 256 colours. Every now and again I still play it. Classic works with 256 colours, and it also starts up with 256 colours.
Classic does this with my iMac, and with my eMac, under Tiger, and with my beige G3 under Jaguar. (Or at least it did the last time I ran Classic on the beige.) The eMac shipped with Panther; Classic ran with 256 colours there, too.
I suspect that you have a different problem.
Which applications are you using?
Dietmar

Font problem in Classic

I posted this over in the Classic forum...but it's rather dead over there and I fear it may not be seen for a while...so here's the problem...
I'm running Quark 4 in Classic and having trouble with fonts. Though the fonts are on my computer, and in the OS 9 fonts folder, they won't print correctly. If I use the same printer and print from Quark on my old iMac (running OS 9) the fonts print and look fine.
I read another thread in this forum that mentioned the fonts must be OS 9 fonts (and must not have been run through suitcase or a similar managing program???). So, on the off chance that my husband or I just took OS X fonts and copied into the OS 9 folder, I copied the OS 9 fonts from the iMac (I just grabbed everything in the Frutiger family, as it was one that I had an issue with) and then dumped them into the OS 9 fonts folder on my iBook. I restarted Classic mode in order to make the fonts available to the OS and then printed again. The font still prints all pixeled-looking.
Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Do I need to find the original font disc and install them from the disc?
Any help would be most appreciated!!!!!

Hi Diane,
Glad that the tip helped to "solve" the font problem!
Not sure why you are printing the file info at the bottom of the page. It does sound as if it is a print setting somewhere though. Hopefully someone has a clue for you.
Again, thanks for the "solved" star and if I can think of something else for you to try I'll post back. Let us know if you figure it out.
good luck,
littleshoulders
edit:
"In lieu of an answer...I tried changing the paper size to legal and it's not on the last copy I printed."
Ooops, I misread your reply, and see that by changing the paper size it corrected the issue.
Message was edited by: littleshoulders

Classic freezes after opening a Microsoft osX app

I'm still running Quark 5 under classic (classic boots on startup and quark is a startup item) and if I then open a Microsoft App in X and click back on Quark all I get is the spinning watch icon. (I think this has only started happening since upgrading to 10.3.9)
If a force quit Quark and restart it it then freezes on startup. Force quiting classic and thus restarting both solves the problem. Subsequently restarting any Microsoft apps doesn't affect freeze classic it only happens on the first run of the program.
I have turned off all Microsoft extensions in classic incase there was a conflict but to no avail. I have also slimmed down classic to the bear minimum for Quark to print and work with Suitcase.
Has anybody experienced this before?
(Machine spec is G41gz 1.25gb ram)

Please be very clear it does not "boots classic into osX…" when you log in, or at any other time and although of course that makes no difference to anything when all is well, at times like this thinking like that can make solutions much harder to find.
OS 9 is an old operating system. OS X is a new operating system. Either of them can boot older Macs, and they behave very, very differently.
Classic is not an operating system and it cannot boot anything. Classic is an "environment" - if you like, an emulator or interpreter - which allows a cut-down version of OS 9 to run on top of X so that newer Macs which can't boot in 9 can still run applications meant for 9.
When you hit problems, that matters for two reasons. Firstly, 9 in Classic behaves very differently to pure, bootable 9 and secondly, since 9 in Classic is running on top of X, all kinds of extra things from X might be contributing to the problem.
Provided you can find the disks, reloading Classic on an X Mac should take a lot less than the 20-odd minutes you might need to re-load pure bootable 9 on an older Mac.
Distiller should not come into the sequence "classic boots on startup and quark is a startup item) and if I then open a Microsoft App in X and click back on Quark all I get is the spinning watch icon…"
If "word always seemed to pause for too long on start up during "optimising the font menu" (or whatever the wording is in the splash box)…" are you saying that behaviour is now different? What, that Word no longer pauses but now immediately freezes, or something?
That would tend to suggests a Word or Office, rather than a System problem.
Either way, if it wa my Mac I'd first disable all the Startup Items in both X and 9, and see what happens when weverything is launched manually, in different sequences.
To disable Classic or pure 9 Startup Items, move the Starup Items folder from inside System Folder onto the Desktop.
To disable X Startup Items - helpfully renamed Login Items as the thinking is different - take them off the list in System Preferences>Accounts>(your account name)>Login Items.
With all those items disabled, Restart and manually launch, say, Word. What happens this time?

10.4 running OS 9 or Classic

Similar Messages

Maybe you are looking for