64-bit WEP wirelessb/g

Ok so i am at my parents house and they have an old powerbook G3 that they use for some internet and itunes. I have a Macbook pro and am trying to connect to there home wireless network. The network is 64-bit WEP hex encrypted. I have the hex password but when i go to connect i can't, and th only options i get under the airport dropdown menu are WEP password, and 40/128 bit hex, 40/128 ASCII and LEAP. i have the home router set for 40/64bit hex because there G3 runs on wireless b. how can i connect to this network?

thank you thats all i needed to know

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40 bit WEP and Windows XP

I'm still using the original AirPort, purchased February 2000, every day. What a great innovation that was...! For the first time, I hooked up a Windows (XP) computer, my neighbor's new Dell notebook. I got it working pretty quickly, although there was a problem with the WEP encryption: my AirPort offers 40 bit WEP encryption, which was unavailable on Windows XP, where you can choose either 128 or 64 bit. A research on the Internet revealed that the 64 bit encryption is also called 40-bit, so we tried that (How comes 64 can also be called 40?? Why not call it 77-bit instead???). Then there was an issue with the password: In Windows XP, it stated that the password had to be 5 characters long, whereas, in the past, I always used a much longer password. But after changing the password, the Dell was hooked up and could access the Internet. Can somebody explain this password issue? If the max. length allowed is really 5 chars, why did my computer never complain? Does the password get truncated to 5 chars without notifying me?
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Here's the link to the thread:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=534141&tstart=30
and in case this link doesn't work, I copied the answer:
"One of the problems with WEP is that the actual standard relies on a 10 character HEX key for 40bit WEP and a 26 character HEX key for 128bit WEP.
In order to make things easier for people, vendors use certain algorithms to convert simple alphanumeric passwords (or passphrases) into HEX keys, thus enabling people to use simple memorable WEP password rather than lengthy HEX keys.
The problem is that different vendors use different algorithms to generate the HEX key and therefore a ASCII password on an AEBS will be hashed differently on a Netgear client and vice versa.
One thing is a 13 character 128 bit WEP password will be hashed by all vendors in the same way (if you use 40bit WEP then a 5 character password is required).
Though sometimes not even that works and the HEX key must be used regardless.
Accessing a Airport Network with a Windows XP PC or laptop (with XP SP2)
http://www.ifelix.co.uk/tech/1011.html
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http://www.ifelix.co.uk/tech/1010.html
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That did it for me, I hope your question's answered as well.
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Aftermarket-like, I have acquired a lovely Aironet PCM-352 card complete with the drivers on CD. I installed them with apparent success on my PowerBook G3 which runs OS 9 (OS X no-go due to FireWire issues), but it doesn't allow more than 16 hex digits for the WEP key (40bits). 128 bit is what I need. Cisco.com won't let me download new drivers, apparently since I don't have a TAC contract. Surely there are wiser places than here to post these questions, but:
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128 bit WEP

Dear all, I have posted this in the Airport Extreme forum as well, but it sort of fits into both, so sorry for repetition!
I have an AE base station that is used to provide network access for a number of machines, most on AE cards, but one (G4 733mhz) has an original airport card. Until recently, I have had security set to 40 bit WEP, not wonderful I know, but I wasn't too concerned. However I recently allowed a PC to connect, and our local IT unit has suggested that, as PC's are more at risk, security should be at 128 bit. I set this up and I have had no end of problems with the G4. All of the other machines (with AE cards) have been fine. The G4 however either takes multiple trys to connect, or connects and then drops out. I first thought that the card might be failing, but having tried another one the same problems exist. I then thought curruption in keychain - but a untouched admin account seems to have the same issues. I have gone back to 40 bit and the problem appears to have gone. Has anyone seen these issues with original airport cards and 128 WEP?
thanks for your help
Andrew Platt

I have the same problem, I recently got an old G3 Blueberry iBook, and it works with no or 40 WEP, but i kick it up to 128, and it wont connect... I have seen Airport cards for sale that say "128" version.. I am wondering if the older cards can be up;graded through firmware of something, or maybe have to be using OS X (currently running OS 9)

TKIP or TKIP w/ 128 bit WEP?

Can someone explain the difference between the cipher TKIP and the cipher TKIP w/ 128bit WEP? I thought you got a key when you selected TKIP...
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Thank you. So then it is better to use just TKIP as opposed to TKIP w/128bit WEP? I am assuming that by using TKIP w/ 128 bit WEP, that WEP has the added cipher to help protect it from attacks.
The reason I ask all of these questions is because I am in the beginning stages of a hospital wireless deployment and want to know the in's and out's of best practice security methods.
Is there a page on the Cisco website that details TKIP, and the details of how it works?
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Graphite base station reverted to 40 bit WEP

My Graphite base station somehow reverted autonomously to 40 bit WEP. It had been set up for 128 bit WEP with a 13 ASCII character password that yielded a 26 character Hex Equivalent WEP key when queried. (And the 26 character key was necessary for PCs to join the network.) In the process of adding a wireless multifunction printer to the network, I opened Airport Admin Utility to double check the settings, and found that it was showing 40 bit WEP, and now indicated a 10 character Hex Equivalent WEP key, apparently derived from the same 13 character ASCII password, since my MacBook Pro had no problem joining the network. I then tried to reapply the original WEP settings, but found that 40 bit WEP and None are now the only available security choices. I am running Mac OS X 10.4.11, though the base station was originally set up under Mac OS 9.2 running on an iBook G3. On the MBP I had Airport Admin Utility 4.2.3, which I updated to Airport Admin Utility for Graphite and Snow v.4.2.5. However, there was no difference in the available security choices. Any suggestions on how to recover?

Yes, it's definitely a Graphite base station. I bought it not long after AirPort was introduced, initially using it at my primary home with dial up internet on a wireless/wired network. I replaced it with an AirPort Dual Ethernet when I upgraded to cable modem internet. Later I installed the Graphite in my vacation home with dial up internet, then upgraded to DSL, on a totally wireless network, where it is adequate, if antiquated. So I have set it up three times, though the last time was several years ago. Each time, there was a choice of two WEP levels, maybe 64 and 40 bits rather than 128 and 40, but each time I chose the higher level. That was borne out by interrogating the base station for its Hex Equivalent WEP Key in order to get a PC access to the network, since the response was a 26 character Hex Key. More than one PC used that 26 character key to join the network. Now that 40 bit WEP is the only choice available in AirPort Admin Utility, when queried, the base station returns a 10 character Hex Equivalent WEP Key, though the 13 ASCII character network password has not been changed, and I have done nothing to change its configuration.

40-bit WEP possible on Extreme Base Station ?

I need to use 40-bit WEP (and a 5 character password), but my new Extreme Base Station (7.2) doesn't support it like my Express base Station did. Any way to supercede the available options?

Thanks for your reply.
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How to connect Pocket PC to 128 bit WEP protected Airport network

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BEFW11S4 v3 - Setting 128-bit WEP key

having problems doing this.
I get into the router ok, using no username and "admin" for password.
I set up the key, hit OK, then when I hit "apply" the prompt comes up for the username and password again. I skip the username, enter "admin" for password (just like I did getting into the setup earlier) except now it says it doesn't recognize, or it's invalid, etc.
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Which browser are you using, if you are using Internet Explorer 6.0 and above then
go to tools menu -> click on internet options -> then click on delete cookies, delete files -> now go to Content tab -> click on AutoComplete -> and then click on clear forms and clear password.
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WEP # for 128 Bit; where do I find it?

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Check which encryption you are using. If you are using WPA2 for example, does your PC hardware support WPA2 (or even WPA).
Have you downloaded and installed the WPA2 patch for XP as well?
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http://tech.ifelix.net/2002.html
If you are using WEP, be aware that WEP is now considered no longer secure and should be avoided in preference to WPA.
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In order to make things easier for people, vendors use certain algorithms to convert simple alphanumeric passwords (or passphrases) into HEX keys, thus enabling people to use simple memorable WEP password rather than lengthy HEX keys.
The problem is that different vendors use different algorithms to generate the HEX key and therefore a ASCII password on an AEBS will be hashed differently on a Netgear client and vice versa.
One thing is a 13 character 128 bit WEP password will be hashed by all vendors in the same way (if you use 40bit WEP then a 5 character password is required).
Though sometimes not even that works and the HEX key must be used regardless.
Accessing a Airport Network with a Windows XP PC or laptop (with XP SP2)
http://tech.ifelix.net/1011.html
Accessing a Airport Network with a Windows XP PC or laptop (with XP SP1)
http://tech.ifelix.net/1010.html
iFelix

How to enter a WEP key

I'm trying to join an existing wireless network of Windows machines. Connecting to the ZyXEL router software shows that it is using 64 bit WEP for its password and this is of the form 64 6F xx xx etc. However, entering this in the Airport configuration for the Mac does not allow me to connect. I've tried putting $ or & in front of the password to no effect. How do I enter this on the Mac?
The Mac offers me 40 bit or 128 bit but not 64 bit. Is this relevant?
Alternatively, if can I just change the router password to alphanumeric e.g. macfan?

I've turned on 64 bit WEP on the router and entered a five letter password. I'm allowing broadcast of SSID while trying to fix this and the Mac can see the network but asking to join and selecting either just WEP Password or WEP 40 bit ASCII and entering the same five letter password, it fails to join and gives the error message invalid password.
Bummer!
an exact 5 ASCII character password should have worked for a WEP 40/64 bit key. But if it didn't, then it didn't.
The router should be able to tell you the WEP Hex Equivalent Password. It should looks something like 1A2B3C4D5E (this is just a made up example, you must get the real hex value from your router). You enter this as the password.
NOTE: Apple has played games with entering hex passwords over the years, and I DO NOT know the current rules, so I'm going to suggest you try 3 different ways to enter this hex value. One of them should work, or there is something else wrong.
$1A2B3C4D5E
0x1A2B3C4D5E
1A2B3C4D5E
One of these mentions of entering the WEP Hex Equivalent Password should work (I'm placing my bets on the leading dollar sign).

How To Get WINDOWS WEP PASSWORDS To Work

Having problems getting simple simple simple WEP to work with your Airport despite knowing exactly what you are doing with WEP, everything looking fine, and with a network that otherwise has always worked fine before? Might be the case of password used on your clients.
Having set up a few Airports with mixed Windows/Mac clients over the last few years and finally discovering the "0x" prefix double-secret answer, I was trying that at first. But the new Admin client WON'T LET YOU USE THAT or "$" ANYMORE (take note helpful posters who keep giving that as the answer - it DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE). The new Admin client helpfully allows your password to be selected as "hex" now, but restricts it to 10 chars for 40-bit WEP so you get an error with either of those prefixes.
But that's OK because the WEP entry system does work and if you select "Equivalent Network Password" in the Admin client, it will show you the password as you entered it so you can confirm.
HERE however is the trick. The Airport, unlike any other router I've config'd, seems to be fussy about case. Go figure - for hexadecimal, case should not matter, the characters are really 'numbers' so A=10 and B=11 and it should be that a=10 and b=11 as well.
But not for the Airport which is happy getting "0AEB66A88D" but won't authenticate clients which are config'd for "0aeb66a88d". Seems very bizarre as I would have bet my Honore Balzac that the WEP would have been sent in binary at some lower protocol level, but apparently it's sent as a character string. Certainly I have entered WEP keys both ways before into other devices with no problems. Naturally good coders would always convert the case either before sending it and/or upon receipt, but in this case we apparently have lazy coders on both sides - Microslug doesn't 'toupper()' as it sends the string and Apple doesn't 'toupper()' as it receives it...
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Second the ridiculous WEP answer: Configure the Airport as you think it should be. Then adjust the WEP passwords on client PC's and other devices so that all Hex codes are entered with caps. Voila everything works fine. A bit tedious to have to re-enter the password on every PC or device if you have a few, but better than it not working at all...
Third: It seems to work better on the Windows side if your network is configured as "OPEN" rather than "SHARED" WEP security. This means the router won't request the password, but I'm not sure how much difference that really makes to the client as it should send the WEP key either way...

Welcome platevoltage,
this could help you...
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=166611
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=108058

3COM 3crwe154g72 does not work with WEP - Help

Can anyone help me?
I am a proud owner of serveral macs, however I keep a legacy HP for my wife. I have been runing an airport network for a couple of years now and I have decided a couple of days ago to use 40 bit WEP for security reasons.
Everything worked smoothly with my Macs however I cannot configure the 3COM card correctly. I still have the signal and the HP can 'see' and connect to my wireless network, however I get limited functionality, i.e. don't get a valid IP address.
Could it be something with the WEP password I have set at the Base Station? I have used the same text phrase in the HP config utility.
Anyone?

You may find the following Apple article helpful: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106864

Can't get WEP to work with both mac and windows machines.

Currently my airport express is setup with no security. When I try to setup using WEP it works great for my powerbook but the windows machines constantly get disconnected.
Any ideas? Should I use other types of wireless security (WPA etc...)? If so, can an xp machine be configured for that type?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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If you can use WPA use WPA, it will depend on your PC
wireless adapter and if you are running Windows XP
SP2.
--the window PC is running xp sp 2 but the adapter does not appear to support WPA (dell true mobile 1300 internal adapter)
from your response below not clear what is the best path to take given WEP is the only option.
One of the problems with WEP is that the actual
standard relies on a 10 character HEX key for 40bit
WEP and a 26 character HEX key for 128bit WEP.
In order to make things easier for people, vendors
use certain algorithms to convert simple
alphanumeric passwords (or passphrases) into HEX
keys, thus enabling people to use simple memorable
WEP password rather than lengthy HEX keys.
The problem is that different vendors use different
algorithms to generate the HEX key and therefore a
ASCII password on an AEBS will be hashed differently
on a Netgear client and vice versa.
One thing is a 13 character 128 bit WEP password
will be hashed by all vendors in the same way (if
you use 40bit WEP then a 5 character password is
required).
Though sometimes not even that works and the HEX key
must be used regardless.
AirPort: Joining an encrypted wireless network
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106424
Choosing a password for networks that use Wired
Equivalent Privacy (WEP)
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=108058
Accessing a Airport Network with a Windows XP PC or
laptop (with XP SP2)
http://www.ifelix.co.uk/tech/1011.html
Accessing a Airport Network with a Windows XP PC or
laptop (with XP SP1)
http://www.ifelix.co.uk/tech/1010.html
iFelix

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