ABAP+JAVA stack and oracle dataguard

Hi all,
I use Oracle Dataguard for my Data recovery System.
How can I manage tha Java part of nw2004s. In case of failover or switchover, the ABAP part is OK but the J2EE cannot start.
Thank's for your help,
Regards
Oracle 10.2.0.2 on Windows 2003 x64 R2

It's ok guys. I just replace the j2ee/cluster directory of standby system by the one of source system.
The j2e engine can be started.

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