Affects on moving average price
Let's talk about the affect on the moving average price please.
Does my MM, and Contract and PO and Invoice price all have to match in order for the moving average price to be accurate?
if you till have stock when the invoice with a different value is posted, then the difference is posted to stock and the MAP is adjusted. If you have no stock anymore, then the difference is posted to a difference account.
about which goods issue and payment are you talking?
goods issue to a delivery to a customer? payment from customer?
No you dont necessarily need a goods issue to collect payment. depending on customizing of your business processes you can do order related billing and collect the money as precondition for a goods issue.
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Affect of discount on COGS and moving average prices
Hi experts,
I want your suggestion to build following scenario in SAP;
Case: During purchase order, vendor has given special discount for a material when purchased for a specific customer.
Requirement: I need to know following;
1. How are those specific prices could be reflected in COGS?
2. How do those specific prices affect the moving average price? is there any way to avoid this effect in the COGS?
ThanksHi Pirzada
Considering that you are working with material ledger system will calculate moving average price doesn´t matter the discounts conditions you had during month.
System will revaluate all consumption considering this moving average price.
Maybe you could think about Splliting Valuation feature ou Make to Sales Order scenario.
These are ways to have a specific cost using the same part number.
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We are looking to utilize the tolerance limit settings for GR's to prevent entry mistakes from affecting moving average prices severly. I have sucessfully tested this process by triggering a warning/error message at the time of a goods receipt, but have been unable to trigger a warning/error for intercompany transfers.
Is this configuration in the OMC0 settings, in config, or somewhere else?
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MattHI Jurgen,
Thanks for your reply.
1. We have maintained the price control as V
2. You have mentioned "However it is as well possible to enter an external value in the movement (if enabled in customizing). then the movement is valuated with this value and the MAP in material master is adjusted."
Where to checl in IMG for the above ?
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Moving average price not calculated properly
Hi,
For a consumable material moving average price(MAP) is getting calculated wrongly.
There are 2 goods receipts taken in Jan'08 and Feb'08 at a unit price of 1250 and 1450 INR.
Then there are around 10 Goods issues for a cost centre, Mvt type 201 taken for next few months.
The MAP value has been calculated properly after the Goods issues.
Again there was a goods recipt in Oct'08 for 1275 INR.
The goods issue done in Nov'08 has created a problem and it has calculated wronlgy i.e. instead of Rs. 800, the system has calculated issue price as Rs.3500.
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Can anyone help us...??
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RamyaHi Ramya,
You have informed in your thread that "for a consumable material..", If a material is procured for direct consumption, the consumption accounts in Financial Accounting are posted when the goods receipt is entered . The total quantity and value of existing stocks of the material are not affected. There is no Goods Issue.
Now, if you procure the material for stock, then changes in Material Valuation due to goods receipts and invoice receipts are carried out automatically (ofcourse manually also) when the relevant transaction is posted.
The extent to which the stock value changes depends on the sequence in which the goods receipts and invoice receipts are posted. The SAP System allows for both possibilities:
- When goods are received before the invoice, the stipulations in the purchase order are used as the basis for posting.
- When the invoice is received before the goods, the details on the invoice are used as the basis for posting.
So, please look into the Invoices and the relevant GR/IR clearing account details. You may get a clue there.
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Moving average price of subcontracted material not picked for Cost estimation
Hi Experts
I have the below scenario:
Finshed Product A has components B, C.
C is a subcontacted material and it has its own BOM with components D & E.
We are maintaining moving average price for the subcontracted material C, (because the subcontracter is adding X & Y in addtion to the components D and E, which are sent from us).
In the mateial maste of C, Procurement type is F and Spl. procurement type 30 are maintained.
When i do costing for the Finished product A, moving average price of C is not picked up (where as system calculates the std cost for C by adding the values of D & E and purchase info record price).
Is there any way to Calculate Price of A by using the mvg avg price of C.
I maintained the below valuation variant settings.
If i remove the spl. procurement type 30 in the material master of C, it picks up the mvg. avg price. but it affects the MRP planning of items D & E.
Please advice.
Thanks in advance.
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BalaHi Big choi
Thanks for your response.
I understand.
1. if we maintain spl. procureent key 30, system calculates standard cost based on raw material and service charges.
2. If we don't maintain spl. proc key, it considers the material as purchased and picks the mvg avg price from material.
But, is there any way to pick the moving avg price from material master eventhough i maintained the spl. procurement type 30?
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Moving average price in Semifinished material.
Dear All,
Our client wants to go for moving average price in case of semifinished material, which is supposed to be normally standard price. The problem is the MAP is not getting updated after the GR against the production order. What settings I need to check in cusomization from PP point of view to solve this problem. Ideally the summation of cost of raw materials has to be the cost of semifinished material.
did the settlement and the MAP got updated. There are few questions I want to ask u are?
1. What MAP should I keep when I create the material for the first time?
2. What the base to calculate the target cost in production order? Currently the target cost is zero for that the varience is hugh which will be going to affect the MAP in a big manner after setllement? What should I do in that case?
Ur valuable inputs are awaited at the earliest. It's urgent.Kindly go thoroug following it will solve your issue
Genrally SAP suggest Std price for semi & fin
but some company are useing MAP so i think the client want MAP then also it will not create any problem but this is laways FICO decision
now MAP is not getting updated
while goods movement system update G/L AC automatically the price used for updating the GL is either std or MAP depending on which is maintain in material master
your MAP will get updated only after settlement of Production order If your production is make to order in that case costing is against Sales order & no issue of settlemnt of Production order so MAP will not be updated in MTO
which price you should maintan in material master & target cost & variance
initally u upload master data with price 1 After that u take costestimate run & realse the price that will be std price Now you can see the varinace along
after realsing the cost estimate you can chane MAP in mr21/22
You can maintain both the prices in material master but while GL AC updating system check the price control & then pick price
but it is advisable to have STD PRICE -
Moving average price in case of semifinished product.
Dear All,
Our client wants to go for moving average price in case of semifinished material, which is supposed to be normally standard price against our advice. The problem is that MAP is not getting updated after the GR against the production order. What settings I need to check in cusomization from PP point of view to solve this problem. Ideally the summation of cost of raw materials has to be the cost of semifinished material.
I did the settlement and the MAP got updated. There are few questions I want to ask u are?
1. What MAP should I keep when I create the semifinished material for the first time?
2. What the base to calculate the target cost in production order? Currently the target cost is zero for that the varience is huge which will be going to affect the MAP in a big manner after setllement? What should I do in that case?
Ur valuable inputs are awaited at the earliest. It's very very urgent.Hi
There will not any big problem if your client insists upon MAP for the material instead of your suggestio for having S as per std. SAP suggestions. There will not be any change in material price during confirmation if you have V indicator but if you have S as indicator there will be change in price due to costing and settlement. It is not that system will not do anything for the materials having V indicator, check the field value for Standard price , it gets updated. Your costing calculation completely depends uopn the settings that has been customised in OPN2 i.e the settings available for valuation. You cancompletely control all these.
Pirce for your semifinished should include the inputs to it and any other parameters which you would like to add. You can always change the price manually with MR21 if you have Zero stock.
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Updating the material moving average price in return to vendor process
Hello,
Our finance department is saying that the affect on the moving average price in our return to vendor process is wrong.
At the moment the moving average price is changed according to the material price in the return PO.
Our financial department says that the moving average price shouldn't be affected at all by a return to vendor.
Can someone tell me how to customize the system according to this request?
Thanks,
SivanDear Friend,
In COOIS Report or MB51 report, Select the list as Documented goods movement and in production order field give the production order number and execute. After executing, if any goods receipt has been done for the same than system will show the same with these it will also show the value of the same. If its not showing than go to change layout and select the same.
Thanks and Regards,
Jitendra Chauhan -
-ve price change in Moving average Price of Material in Material Master.
Dear All,
Kindly guide on below issue.
We have a Material e.g A which stock was available in System let us say 10 qty & the Price per unit was Rs.10. But in last August some users chagned the price to Rs.5 because of whcih the Valuation in previous period has become negative.
Now I have to rectify this. Now please tell me how can I do so.
Also Note: there are sevral other Movements have happened since then i.e. GR, IR, Consumption for Production etc.
This is very important.
Regards,For negative MAP , there are steps which are given in SAP note 356757. Follow this steps to overcome this issue.
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Summary
Symptom
When you try to post an invoice for the purchase order, the system generates error message M8783: 'Moving average price for material & & & is negative'.
Additional key words
MRHR, MR1M, MIRO, MMVAL, M8783
Cause and prerequisites
You posted a valuated goods receipt for a purchasing document for a material with moving average price control.When the invoice was posted (invoice item with price variance for goods receipt), the system generates error message M8783: 'Moving average price for material & & & is negative'.
Between the posting of the original goods receipt and the entry of the invoice, the system already posted additional valuation-relevant transactions/events (goods movements, invoices and so on, can be displayed with Transaction MR51).
The invoice verification tries (for stock coverage) to credit/subsequently debit the difference between the value of goods received and invoice item value for the stock.However, the material total value must not become negative by this stock posting.
Solution
Before you post the invoice, you must first increase the stock value.
The amount by which the stock value must be increased at least can be calculated from the following values:
1. Transaction MM03, accounting view material master, field 'Total value' (MBEW-SALK3)
2. Invoice item value according to invoice
3. In the invoice verification (Transaction MR01, MR1M, MIRO), change the invoice item amount to a value which is high enough and simulate the invoice to receive the value which would be posted for this item to the GR/IR account.
In the invoice verification, the value (3) minus (2) is posted to stock. It must be larger than (1).Post a subsequent debit with the amount (3) + (1) - (2) for the affected material/plant (Transaction MR22).
You can post the invoice afterwards. -
How to enter initial balance for material with moving average price
We have an issue where the customer wants to split one material into three materials. We are thinking of posting goods issue for the original material and post goods receipt for the new three materials. But how to enter the initial balance since these three materials must have moving average price.
Hi,
If you create material first time in system with the help of MM01 then specify the price this will gets affect on moving price.
and if the material is created with ZERO price then use the option MR21 which is said by Jürgen
Reagrds
Sandesh -
'Moving average price for material is negative' calculation
Hi Gurus,
I would like to ask for your assistance regarding Invoice having error of 'moving average price for material is negative'.
How is it being calculated that it goes to negative value? Can you also please give a scenario on why it became negative?
We have the following scenario:
MAP: 0.30
Total Stock: 9
Total Value: 2.74
PO raised and GR was done:
Quantity: 240
Value: 2.95
Would appreciate your assistance on issue.
Thank you.
JihHi,
Please check that price of that material is increased or decreased by using transction MR21. after GRN.
You posted a valuated goods receipt for a purchasing document for a material with moving average price control.When the invoice was posted (invoice item with price variance for goods receipt), the system generates error message M8783: 'Moving average price for material & & & is negative'.
Between the posting of the original goods receipt and the entry of the invoice, the system already posted additional valuation-relevant transactions/events (goods movements, invoices and so on, can be displayed with Transaction MR51).
The invoice verification tries (for stock coverage) to credit/subsequently debit the difference between the value of goods received and invoice item value for the stock.However, the material total value must not become negative by this stock posting.
Solution
Before you post the invoice, you must first increase the stock value.
The amount by which the stock value must be increased at least can be calculated from the following values:
1. Transaction MM03, accounting view material master, field 'Total value' (MBEW-SALK3)
2. Invoice item value according to invoice
3. In the invoice verification (Transaction MR01, MR1M, MIRO), change the invoice item amount to a value which is high enough and simulate the invoice to receive the value which would be posted for this item to the GR/IR account.
In the invoice verification, the value (3) minus (2) is posted to stock. It must be larger than (1).Post a subsequent debit with the amount (3) + (1) - (2) for the affected material/plant (Transaction MR22).
You can post the invoice afterwards.
Regards.
Edited by: Sachin on Sep 24, 2009 9:11 AM
Edited by: Sachin on Sep 24, 2009 9:13 AM -
Difference between Standard Pricing and Moving Average Price
Hi,
Would like to seek some advises on the difference between standard price and Moving average price.
also, how does it affect the account postings differently?
ThanksStandard Price
Materials whose price control indicator is set to S are valuated in Financial Accounting (FI) at standard price.
This is recommended for semifinished products and finished products.
The moving average price is shown as a statistical value in the material master record.
The standard price is normally calculated using a standard cost estimate for the material. The standard price can also be calculated in a mixed cost estimate.
Moving Average Price
When materials whose price control indicator is set to V are received from in-house manufacturing processes, they are initially valuated with a value you defined (such as the standard price). When you settle, the material stock account is debited with the variances. This results in a new moving average price.
Valuating semifinished products and finished products with the moving average price is not recommended.
Regards,
Indranil -
Moving average price in case of goods receipt with free of charge
Hello everyone,
Need some inputs......
Sometimes we receive materials from suppliers free of charge (e.g. warranty replacement) u2013 moving average goes down u2013 worst case 0,01 EUR/piece. This causes problems in government reporting and export documentation EX1 and clearance/pro-forma invoice) for deliveries to field engineers (Order type ZIS1, ZIS3 u2013 item cat. ZICA), because moving average price is used for the values in government reporting and on the invoices. In government reporting and on invoices we need to state a true value of the part.On the other hand, the value warehouse stock is depending on the moving average cost as well.Could you please let me know, how to handle such receipts from the supplier to have a correct stock value and correct values on invoices and government reporting?
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Deepthi...Hello Deepthi,
It depends on your company policy. If you want to valuate the material along with the material purchased handled in moving average price, free consignment will bring down the MAP for the material.
In that case, you can revaluate the material to the original price in MR21 transaction.
If you are not going to handle the materials received free of charge along with the purchased material, you can go with another material code, with non valuated material type.
But i guess, no company will be asking for another material code. So go for revaluation after the receipt of free consignment.
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Moving Average Price for Sales stock and Project stock of a material
Hiya Gurus,
I am developing a report to display inventory details. My requirement is that I have to display the Moving average price of a material for all Valuation type. I also need to display the Moving average price if a material has got Project stock or Sales stock.
In MBEW table I can get the Valuation type and its Moving average price, but how can I find the moving average price for the same material if it has got Sales stock and project stock. Please let me know the table and field where I could get the relevant data.
Kindly help me on this, it would be deeply appreciated.
Cheers,
ZIaHi
can you look at tables
EBEW Sales Order Stock Valuation
QBEW Project Stock Valuation
Nat -
Hai all MM gurus,
While invoice posting, system is showing the error message " Moving average price is negative for the material ".
How to post the invoice .Hi,
In the material master the moving average price is negative.
Please use MR21 and change price so that the MAP will be
postitive then you can verify the invoice
G.Ganesh Kumar
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