ATI Radeon HD 5870 + Mac Pro 2,1 (2007).

Hello All!
Is any one known or tried to use HD 5870 in Mac Pro 2,1 which is Octocore ?? Is it works?? If it work, what boot rom version in this mac pro?

Radeon HD 5870 versus 5770
Radeon 5870 5770 2006 Mac Pro
The 5870 works, but not that much better to justify the extra $200 which could be spent on something to boost overall system like an SSD.
I think everyone pretty much knows 2008 intro'd both EFI64 and PCIe 2.0 and of course better for graphics choices.

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ATI Radeon 5770 on Mac Pro 3.1

Hi All,
I got a question I want to buy the new 27 inch cinema display but this new display got the apple mini displayport which my mac pro don't have.
Specs Computer:
MacPro3,1 Quad-Core Intel Xeon 2,8 GHz with videocard: ATI Radeon HD 2600
So what to do now?
First option:
Do I need to buy the ATI Radeon HD 5770 because this got all the correct ports to connect to the 27 inch display? And will this display be able to connect to my mac pro? And how many monitors can be connected to one ATI Radeon HD 5770 video card? Because I have also my old display 20 inch and I want to use that if it is possible as a second screen.
Second option:
I read on the internet that It is possible to buy an dual DVI to apple mini displayport converter but I don't read on apple site if this will work correct? But with this solution if it is possible then I can not work with 2 screens not a big problem but is this cable good to buy for my mac to connect to the display?
I hope i'm clear and understandable and I hop you can help me with this "problem".
Thnx,
Nick

There are 10s of comments on the product page, here, and on various sites.
Ony requires 10.6.5 or later. Works in ALL Mac Pro models, as we never of course tire of saying.
Radeon HD 5870 versus 5770
ATI Radeon HD 5770 MC742ZM A

ATI RADEON 5770 on Mac Pro 2006

Hello,
I am using a MacPro 1.1 (from 2006) and out of the blue my video card which was Geforce 7300GT burned out. I can't find a replacement card which is the same and only combatible one I found is Ati Radeon 5770. Before I move on buying this card I am wondering whether it will work first of all on my mac pro, and if so which exact model should I purchase since I see some differences in each one as far as the memory bus (4800Mhz, 5200 Mhz and 1200 Mhz) and the processor clock speed ( 850 Mhz and 875 Mhz) I would really appreciate some help on this matter since it's already 2 weeks I am trying to solve it.
Thanks!

Well, thank you for that.
If you are lucky or willing, the link I have for 1st gen 8800GT model on ebay. Pricey as can be though.
Also:
http://myworld.ebay.com/macvidcards/
Hopefully 5770s are waiting for drivers or to be replaced with Radeon 6xxx series (but which would then require more retooling of drivers you can be sure).
Last year this time, the 5000's were just coming out. Nvidia was also inbetween the FERMI (GeForce 400s) and older GTX 200 series which caused shortages and when you could find anything, inflated pricing.
When I bought the 8800GT I also picked up ($129) OS X DVD 10.5.6 (had I guessed, I would have waited for Snow Leopard @ $29 maybe). And, you have to call but 10.5.x DVDs can be ordered by phone Apple Store but not online (another peeve, it is almost impossible to buy Leopard now, the last that supports PowerMacs too).
At least the Apple variety of ATI Radeon work in any and all Mac Pro models.
If there is a way to flash or work with PC cards, that would come from MacRumors Mac Pro.
http://forum.netkas.org/
http://forums.macrumors.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1

ATI Radeon 5770 in Mac Pro

I have a Mac Pro 3,1 (the 2008 model), which works with the ATI Radeon 5770 GPU. I want to upgrade from my 2600 because it's noisy and not as fast as I want it to be. It seems like there are two versions of the 5770: Mac and non-Mac. What's the difference? Can I put a regular 5770 in my Mac or only the "Mac version"?

Graphics cards that are PC-BIOS only do not show a picture under MacOS X, which uses EFI firmware.
PC-cards that have been flashed to EFI firmware do not show a picture until the login screen.
Genuine Mac cards show a picture from power-on, and this makes debugging and booting from another drive much simpler.

Is it better to have two ati radeon HD 5770 or one ATI radeon HD 5870 for video editing?

Is it better to have two ati radeon HD 5770 or one ATI radeon HD 5870 for video editing? I'm basing this question based on the current options when configuring a Mac Pro. Currently there are three options
ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB
Two ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB [Add $250.00]
ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB [Add $200.00]
Between the second and third options I am wondering which will provide a better more productive experience for video editing. Such as using FCP or FCPX. I know how many monitors that are in use will affect the answer to this questions. While I'm more focused on which option will deliver a better video editing experience, lets just say for argument sakes that the Mac Pro is running a 30" cinema display and a small generic monitor. About 18". Its an older VGA monitor for web development.
I hope thats enough info to get an answer on this subject.
Thanks

Ya in my research of this question, I came across this whole issue of Mac not being able to use CrossFire. I didn't thorugly investigate what this CrossFire issue was, but if it makes more sense with the singel 5870 rather than the 2 5770 then thats helpful to know.
If the Mac can't make the most out of two 5770 because it doesn't make use of CrossFire, it seems silly that Apple even bothers to offer it as an option. Plus its cheaper with the singel 5870 versus two 5770. Unless you really needed to run several monitors.
Thanks. This satisfies a long curiousity I have had.

ATI Radeon HD 4870 vs ATI Radeon HD 5870

I have an early 2009 Mac Pro with 8 cores and the upgraded ATI Radeon HD 4870 graphics card. I see that the 2010 Mac Pros have an option for the ATI Radeon HD 5870. Apparently this card will eventually be available as a kit that will work in my computer.
Do you think there will be a significant performance boost using the 5870 over the 4870 with Aperture if I purchase this upgrade? Apple says the 5870 is great for "motion graphics, 3D modeling, rendering, or animation", but not sure if I should expect much improvement using it with Aperture. I am pretty happy with the 4870, so don't want to spend the cash for minimal improvement.
Any thoughts or speculation?
Thanks,
Dave

No response here, but I posted the same question on the Apple Store Product page for the 5870 kit and received the following reply:
"You won't see a noticeable difference unless you are running heavy 3D applications or gaming. What I would suggest if you want to see an improvement in Aperture 3 is to add more ram to your mac (have at least 8 Gigabytes of ram ) boot up your mac to 64 bit (if running Mac OS 10.6) and run Aperture 3."
This supports my suspicions that this card may not be much of an improvement for Aperture users that currently use the ATI 4870.

ATI Radeon HD 5870 failing to detect displays randomly during reboots

Hello,
I have a Mac Pro 1,1 A1186 computer, MAC OS X 10.6.6, and I just updated the ole 7300 video card to an ATI Radeon HD 5870 I just purchased from the Apple Store last week.
Problem: Mac OS X 10.6.6 keeps losing the display settings during reboots and fails to detect one of the monitors (the Acer X233H) randomly upon reboots. I tried using two Mini DisplayPort to DVI Adapters, but when that produced undesirable results I just plugged one of the monitors into the DVI diplay port and used just one of the Mini DisplayPort to DVI adapters. Then I tried swapping the monitors around.
I know both monitors and cables that directly connect to the monitors work fine as *they worked on the 7300 adapter*. I'm not using an Apple display, so I'm wondering do I have a bad card or is this common?
I tried reseating the card, completely disconnecting it and reinstalling it. I have both power cables plugged into the card, and both monitors will come up eventually if I keep rebooting my system (if they didn't come up the first time).
Please help... this whole experience is ruining my buzz for purchasing such a kick butt OEM card from Apple. Thank you very much in advanced.
I have 14GB of RAM, 2TB Western Digital (for backup/archival purposes), and an SSD Patriot Torqx 128GB Drive. The Diagnostics state they passed, and everything else works fine except for the display detection.
Here is the setup of the monitors I'm using:
Chipset Model: ATI Radeon HD 5870
Type: GPU
Bus: PCIe
Slot: Slot-1
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 1024 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x6898
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-C0780C-194
EFI Driver Version: 01.00.436
Displays:
Acer X223W:
Resolution: 1680 x 1050 @ 60 Hz
Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Rotation: Supported
ACER X233H:
Resolution: 1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz
Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Rotation: Supported
Display Connector:
Status: No Display Connected

OK, I took your advise and tried the "active powered" adapter last night. No dice. The monitor detection still doesn't work even after purchasing the $100 adapter for only 2 displays. Connecting one of the monitors to the DVI display in the back and connecting the other display to the Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter.
_This is not the solution as the problem still occurs._
I also tried reloading Mac OS X Snow Leopard last night wiping out everything on the entire partition to be extreme thinking that the system could be confused. I know I could've just deleted the configuration file, but hey... what the heck.
After applying the updates I was able to see both displays again, +_however again they got confused_+.
The end result is from what I believe that the card is inferior in the way it doesn't allow Mac OS X to detect displays properly and or a driver update needs to be issued from Apple to address this issue.
After trying multiple things it would appear that there is only 1 work around as suggest from above (put the computer to sleep). However, to properly fix things we shouldn't have to utilize work arounds.
Important facts that lead me to this conclusion are:
1. Mac OS X 10.6.6 does detect displays properly with the 7300 with no problem.
2. The monitors and cables work properly with the 7300 card, and other systems. So they are not the issue.
3. After installing the ATI 5870 card that's when we I experienced the issues that didn't go away no matter what cable I used or where I plugged the monitors.
a. Thus a $100 cable or a $30 cable worked the same for this issue.
4. Reinstalling OS X 10.6.6 completely and wiping out everything including the display configuration had no bearing on any of this.
Therefore, it can only be two things by deduction:
1. The firmware of the card needs a revision to help support multiple displays.
and/or
2. The driver for the ATI 5870 needs a revision to correct multiple display support within the Operating System.
However, I can't see paying over $500 for a card and an adapter that doesn't work properly. If there is no hope that Apple or ATI is working on this issue with the ATI 5870 card, I have only one recourse and that is not to support this particular ATI product and take it back. I know I can always just keep putting my computer to sleep, but over $500 for a video card and an adapter that is riddled with bugs is way too much for me.
*I'm taking the card back and reinstalling the 7300 until a proper card can be produced or an update is issued to specifically correct multiple display support.*
*Thank you* everyone for your help, I really appreciate it. *+However, the users of the systems can only do so much without proper support from Apple and/or ATI on this issue.+*

ATI Radeon HD 5870 Graphics

I bought the ATI Radeon HD 5870 Graphics from ebuyer and thought I could simply put this into my mac pro and use it straight away. I am now worried that apple are releasing a specific version of the card and therefore it wont be compatible with my Mac Pro. Can anybody please advise me on this?
Do I have enough power? Do I need special cables?

Windows 5870s can be flashed to work in Macs but so far they don't show much of a Boot screen unless you have a VGA monitor.
You would be best served just waiting and buying one from Apple.
Details of flashed ones at Netkas.org forums.

2 ATI Radeon HD 5770 vs 1 ATI Radeon HD 5870

Hi everyone
I had a quick question about the GPU options on a mac pro. What are the differences between having 2 ATI Radeon HD 5770's and having 1 ATI Radeon HD 5870? Is either better? Just assume a high end mac, 12 core @ 2.93GHz/32GB RAM. I'm not great with GPUs.
Thanks!

Having two allows for more output displays and to empty your wallet.
No CrossFire or bonding. And not every will see a difference with 5870.
Nor does all software work optimally with 12-cores. Which is why 3.33GHz 6-core is popular has highest GHz, and put money into other things.

ATI Radeon HD 5870 vs 5770

I have an early 2008 Mac Pro I want to upgrade for use with Final Cut Pro X. What are the differences between the ATI Radeon HD 5870 and the 5770? The specs seem the same. I am going to be using it with my old Cinema monitor (one). Considering upgrading from Snow Leopard to Lion too but to be hinest that scares me a bit (I'm assuming I can run FCP X on Snow Leopard...)

5770 vs 5870 in Final Cut Pro X
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3158413?start=0&tstart=0

ATI Radeon HD 3870 Mac&Pc edition and Accelero S1

I just installed the ATI Radeon HD 3870 Mac & Pc edition on my Mac Pro (first edition).
While the fan on the card is not very loud and acceptable I would like to take the fan out and install the Accelero S1 cooler instead ( http://www.arctic-cooling.com/vga2.php?idx=138&data=7&disc= ).
Has anyone installed one (accelero s1) lately?
Any objections?
Thank you for your input.
Eugene

Just installed this. It's great, quiet. Took about 20 minutes. Take your time and the install is easy. I didn't use the spacer clips as they're not necessary, and a bit hard to install. I ordered the Artic cleaning and prep solutions and I'm glad I did. Good luck.

HT4279 ATI Radeon HD 5870 screen resets size after after sleeping. Why?

Purchased an ATI Radeon HD 5870. When connected to 1920x1080 it leaves a third of the screen out. However after starting up it fits the screen. Only after sleeping does it reset to this faulty screen size. I have attempted every Mini dv adapter vga,dvi and hdmi. All lead to the same issue or another.
Is this card defective? Is this an issue with the Lion OS?

Ok let me go into more detail for you.
Macpro had 2 Geforce gt 120 video cards. I recently had some blocking issues ( where the screen just over lays a bounch of boxes with random parts of the background and or aps running). Decided to upgrade to the Radeon 5870. Before the upgrade i have been using a Samsung LCD tv and and old Dell monitor. Worked great. Tv res was set to 1920x1080. Instailed the new card. Hooked up the Dell to the DVI output and Tv to a Mini DV at first using the Mini DV to DVI. Ended up with the half the screen issue. Took the back and got the Mini DV to HDMI. I didnt have the size issue but when set to 1080 it was not hidef. Took that back and got the Mini DV to VGA. Now here is where I currently am stuck. When both the TV (Mini to VGA) and the Dell (VGA to DVI) are connected to the 5870 and the harddrive and monitors go to sleep it resets and i lose an 8th of the screen. I currently am just using the TV and everything seems to be fine. Also on the amount i lose there is a dotted line that some times flickers. Not sure if that means anything.

Ati radeon hd 4870 mac specifications

I haven't been able to find detailed specifications for the ati radeon hd 4870 mac edition.
The PC version specs show "accelerated transcoding and decoding for H.264 and Mpeg2".
Is this on the Mac version? Is it accessed/useful when compressing video to H.264 and Mpeg2?

We started to catch up, but missed the mark as far as driver support.
A GPU can also be a GPGPU, or CUDA, or PhysX card, or used in non-Macs for SLI and CrossFire. Windows 7 uses DirectX to off load work to the GPU.
A GPU is great for a lot of mathematical, encryption, parallel computing, even as a Fortran compiler.
I've never used a computer to play games, and when you see the extremes that some go to, $1000+ for 2-3 graphic cards teamed up, 180 fps... I imagine a wall of monitors at a concert or most any presentation today.
CS4 on Windows can use Quadro CX ($1600) not just for eye-candy, but off load and render. Don't send the image back and forth to the cpu.
Intel hopes to have Larabee out next year. Which goes in the other direction, use the cpu for handling tranditional gpu functions.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-larrabee-graphics,2253-11.html
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9111498/Intelkeeps_number_of_Larrabee_cores_under_wraps?intsrc=hmlist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larrabee_%28GPU%29

Is Mac Pro (purchased in 2007) compatible with Windows 7

The support page says that the following is not supported for use with Windows 7
Mac Pro (Mid 2006, Intel Xeon Dual-core 2.66GHz or 3GHz)
I purchased my Mac Pro in late 2007 and it has 2 Intel Xeon Dual-core 3GHz processors. Does this mean that I can't use Windows 7 on this Mac Pro?

Install is fine once you get past the boot screen.
And it is usually only 64-bit (I tried 32-bit and Apple's EFI limited us to 2GB RAM only, which is PITA).
This is where I first learned of possible solutions -
http://jowie.com/blog/post/2008/02/24/Select-CD-ROM-Boot-Type-prompt-while-tryin g-to-boot-from-Vista-x64-DVD-burnt-from-iso-file.aspx

Any updates on the ATI Radeon HD 5870 upgrade kit for Mac Pro 2009/2010?

So,
while the card is shipping without delay in new BTO Mac Pro units, there still is no sign of the kit posted on on the online store months ago (day/date with current Mac Pro release). To date, the card hasn't shipped (to anyone - no 3rd party store has received it), Apple still shows 'currently unavailable' - without even an 'add to cart' button (like the Quadro 4000); and even AppleCare is in the dark (you'd assume they can send units for replacement. Yet, while they can be setup in the GSX system, there is apparently no 'cost' shipments available even from support).
I suppose not - but does anyone have any more insight into what's going on here? This looks suspiciously like this card is not going to see the light of day as an upgrade kit; for either 2010 or 2009 Mac Pro.....
Cheers,
Dan

Ugh.
That rhymes with what we are seeing.
After about a week of there being an 'order' button for the 5870 (it remained 'currently unavailable' though), the 'add to cart' option has, today, disappeared again. I assume anyone who ordered the card during the window will not see the card, and there seem to have been no purchase confirmations (usually sent within 15 minutes of processing) sent to anyone who ordered.
All this, as well as you report, points to the 5870 being EOL; apparently only a contingent was made for the Mac Pro, and now even AppleCare is running down on inventory for replacements.
That begs the question; once inventory runs out - assuming it does - to even supply the Mac Pro BTO, there has to be some replacement ready; assumingly something with better yield.
BTW - the 5870 cards for the Mac Pro are made by AMD (they are identical to the reference boards), and are stamped as such in Mac Pros. Whatever Apple does with them, they still get them from AMD, not a third party....
And, the Quadro 4000 isn't a good replacement - apart from the cost (which is reasonable for a productivity card) as for non-optimized apps (i.e. users that would usually buy a 5870) it'll likely be much slower due to the low clock and memory speed on the card. And, WOW isn't CUDA aware
Oh well
Dan

ATI Radeon HD 5870 + Mac Pro 2,1 (2007).

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