Audio Drift after Processing

I'm currently working with FCP and Soundtrack. An 82 minute long audio file had some noise issues and I placed the whole audio timeline onto Sountrack Pro. I removed the ambient noise and saved the file after which it appeared back on the FCP timeline all processed.
But the audio is out of sync and gets progressively so. Is there a workaround for this? Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks.

We had the same issue on our project, and we just figured it out. We are working in 23.98 telecined film footage and our audio was recorded separately on bwf's. We exported our audio cuts as OMF's, cleaned them up in Pro Tools and when we imported the new files, they were drifting.
When we took both video and audio into Soundtrack Pro, it's perfectly in Sync, this told us that it's FCP's bug. In FCP, the length of the .wav file we imported was longer than the original length, in fact it's length was now the equivalent of a 30 fps file, not a 23.98.
I talked to Apple for about two hours on this with three different people, and explained to them that I knew it was a FCP bug, since the files worked in Soundtrack, but they wouldn't take responsibility on finding a solution and gave up on the issue.
My brilliant friend, Greg, spent about 5 minutes looking at the issue and found the problem. The problem is that once you have a quicktime file and it is conformed in FCP, it is tagged in the Audio Directory. So even if you have a 23.98 audio file and pull it up to a 29.97 file in ProTools or Soundtrack Pro, the tag stays with it.
Solution to the problem:
Option 1: Select the file in the browser and then go to Modify, Timecode. If it says "30" and you are allowed to change it to "24," then your problem will be solved. If the "24" is light grey and can't be selected, then do the following steps.
Option 2:
1. Take your audio file, press option and copy it. Rename it something different from the original file, just for safety, I named mine a different name at the beginning of the title.
2. Open a new final cut project, set up the easy setup so that it's totally a 23.98 project.
3. Import your audio and video. Hopefully, FCP will assume it's a 23.98 file, since you're in a 23.98 project.
4. Open you original project and cut and paste the new files. They should keep the 23.98 tags.
It worked for us. Greg thinks that this bug has been addressed in the Leopard version of FCP, but not the Tiger one.

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    Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
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