AWM 10.1.0.4 - Sort Members

I have noticed in the "help" of AWM 10.1.0.4 that there is a sort members dialog box (where it is also possible to edit the sort criteria).
However I cannot locate it in AWM, could be so kind as to help me find where it is located.

The 'Sort Members dialog box' found in the Help is not yet exposed in AWM 10.1.0.4. This should have been removed from the Help.
So how do you control the sort order of a dimension in AWM 10.1.0.4?
1) Within the Create Attribute dialog box, create a sort order attribute with the attribute type as 'user' and the data type as 'text' or 'integer' for each hierarchy and apply it to its corresponding hierarchy. (Do not use the Default Order attribute type. Currently the OracleBI stack does not support it.)
2) Populate the dimname_attrname text variable (map and load from a source table or use OLAP DML):
limit CUSTOMER_HIERLIST to 'SHIPMENTS'
limit CUSTOMER to CUSTOMER_INHIER
limit CUSTOMER to hierarchy run -
'sort customer a customer_long_description(all_languages
\'AMERICAN_AMERICA\')' -
using customer_parentrel
CUSTOMER_SORT_ORDER_SHIP = convert(1000000+STATRANK(CUSTOMER),text,0)
3) Add a SORT_ORDER property to each dimname_hiername_hierdef object:
consider CUSTOMER_SHIPMENTS_HIERDEF
property 'SORT_ATTRIBUTE' 'CUSTOMER_SORT_ORDER_SHIP'
4) Do the same for each hiearchy in a dimension.

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