"Backing up 0kb of 0kb" - backup volume is stuck at size 149.48GB

It looks like my backup is stuck. Time machine says its working, but does not know how much it needs to do.
It already did like 700 GB yesterday (3 volumes being backed up onto a 2 TB drive).
I had to stop it for a restart, after the restart, it's giving the ")kb of 0KB" message, and the backed up colume appeats to be too small.
However, the drive does indicated 1.14 TB available - that would be consistent with the 700 GB that was backed up by the time I did the restart.
how do I get this thing to work? thanks

john piscitello's alias wrote:
It looks like my backup is stuck. Time machine says its working, but does not know how much it needs to do.
It already did like 700 GB yesterday (3 volumes being backed up onto a 2 TB drive).
I had to stop it for a restart, after the restart, it's giving the ")kb of 0KB" message, and the backed up colume appeats to be too small.
Hi, and welcome to the forums.
Interrupting a huge TM backup is not a good idea. It shouldn't harm anything, but may cause the next one to be quite lengthy.
However, the drive does indicated 1.14 TB available - that would be consistent with the 700 GB that was backed up by the time I did the restart.
how do I get this thing to work? thanks
It may be working fine, but having to re-do some of yesterday's work because of the interruption. There should be more explanation in your logs. Download the +Time Machine Buddy+ widget. It shows the messages from your logs for one TM backup run at a time, in a small window. Copy and post the messages from both the original and the most recent one here (be sure to get them all, as sometimes they overflow the small window).
Then we should be able to get an idea of what's going on.

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    Hi there. I had a problem with my time machine and got an error stating "This backup is too large for the backup volume". I did noticed after logging in that TM was indexing in the upper right corner [magnifier with a flashing dot(spotlight)] for a few seconds. So then I went on to "back up now" and it was preparing and then I got the Error message described above. So I uninstalled my anti-virus (you must disable auto protection/or exclude timemachine.app and its plist file (location below)from Anti-virus preferences in the case you have a anti-virus app, otherwise it will take forever to back up.) though that was not my issue. I then turn off time machine and deleted this .plist file in Macintosh HD > Library > Preferences > com.apple.TimeMachine.plist....STOP here if this fixed your problem after restarting. Time machine External Drive in Disk Utility **THESE STEPS WILL ERASE YOUR ENTIRE BACKUPS** ( "Erase" and rename or "partition" to make more that one partition on the External Drive if you wish, and Rename) (Disk utility> Partition tab> "option" you must - guid=intel / apple partition map=PowerPC)...sorry alot of newbie out there...by deleting the "com.apple.TimeMachine.plist" = when you plug in you TM it will ask you if you want to use the drive as a TM back up automatically. This did the trick. But to let you guys know I also used Cocktail (app) and used a feature it has to erase my computers spotlight index and rebuild it. Also in Cocktail, when you have your time machine plugged in you can erase its index and disable it all together. I recommend you first disable spotlight (before the first initial TM backup) in system preferences > spotlight> Privacy (tab) and plus to add time machine ...which has to be mounted (plugged in) to add from window under "Devices".

    http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20090403093528353

  • How do I enable ownership on my external hard drive backup volume so I can copy it to a new external hard drive?

    I just got a replacement external hard drive from LaCie. And, I have an older smalller LaCie external back up hard drive that I want to copy the information to the new one. But when I drag the old backup files folder to new one I get this message:The backup can’t be copied because the backup volume doesn’t have ownership enabled. How do I resolve this?

    Try this:
    Open the Terminal in your Utilities folder. Enter the following at the prompt:
         sudo chown root:admin
    Put a space after "root:admin" then drag the Desktop icon of the new drive into the Terminal window. Press RETURN. Enter your admin password when prompted. It will not be echoed to the screen. Press RETURN again.

  • Backup Volume cannot be mounted

    Time machine stopped working for me back in July. I've looked at every post and tried nearly everything, and I cannot get it working again. The error through the Time Machine pref pane is "The Backup volume cannot be mounted." The errors in the console are the following:
    Sep 4 23:19:25 tesla /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[50182]: Backup requested by user
    Sep 4 23:19:25 tesla /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[50182]: Starting standard backup
    Sep 4 23:19:25 tesla /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[50182]: Network mountpoint /Volumes/Backup not owned by backupd... remounting
    Sep 4 23:19:26 tesla /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[50182]: Failed to remount network volume.
    Sep 4 23:19:31 tesla /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[50182]: Backup failed with error: 19
    This is a network volume. It's a 750GB firewire drive, formatted HFS+ with a GUID partition table connected to an iMac. The iMac can back up just fine to it. My MBP cannot. It worked before.
    It appears it is failing to remount the drive as root rather than myself, as backupd runs as root. Others are having the same problem, and I've seen no resolution for this particular issue. Is Apple even aware of it? Do they even read the discussion forums?

    Paul,
    Give these ideas some condsideration:
    First, it is important to distinguish this error message from another, similar Time Machine error that states “The backup volume could not be found”. This is important as the causes and cures for these two errors can be very different.
    Give each topic separate consideration. If one does not resolve your issue, move on the next one.
    *Time Machine Has Lost Its’ Backup Disk*
    If Time Machine was NOT setup to recognize a hard disk for backup, and “Back up now” was selected from the Time Machine Dock icon, an error would report “No backup volume has been selected. To select a backup volume, open . . “ The Console log would report:
    +Backup failed with error: 17+
    But if Time Machine HAD BEEN setup to use a specific disk for backups, but if had lost its’ connection to the drive, it would report “The backup volume could not be mounted”. The Console log would say:
    +FSMatchAliasBulk returned -35 while resolving alias to backup target+
    +Backup failed with error: 19+
    When you check the Time Machine preferences you may see the name of your backup disk greyed-out and a generic hard drive icon beside it. More than likely this means Time Machine has lost is physical connection to the drive. Either the drive is not plugged in, it’s not turned ON, the drives’ cable is bad, the drives internal controller has failed, or the drive has a sleep function that is preventing it from waking when a backup is called for.
    *Airport Has Been Turned Off* (For Time Capsule / AirDisk Users) #
    Look and the Airport menu at the top of the screen. Does it no longer display the radiating bands of wireless signal strength? The Airport has been turned off on this computer.
    Go to System Preferences.
    Select Network.
    Click “Turn Airport On”
    Now try backing up.
    *File Sharing Has Been Disabled* (For Time Capsule / AirDisk Users) #
    Launch Airport Utility.
    Click "Manual Setup".
    Select "Disks" in the tool bar at top of window.
    Click "File Sharing".
    Verify that "Enable file sharing" is checked.
    If not, check it, click “Update”.
    Once the Time Capsule has finished restarting, close Airport Utility and try backing up again.
    *Password Has Changed/Become Corrupted* (For Time Capsule / AirDisk Users) #
    [Mac OS X 10.5.3 or later: Time Machine - "Backup volume could not be mounted" after changing network volume's password]
    *Proper Computer Name* #
    Make sure your computer has a proper name. Go to System Preferences --> Sharing. Time Machine needs to differentiate your computer from others on your network (i.e. "Bills MacBook" or "Office iMac"). If the "Computer Name" field is blank, create a name. Realize that if this step is necessary, you will likely have to start the Time Machine backup process over again and do another full initial backup.
    According to THIS article [http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1760], Time Machine may experience problems if your computer name includes certain characters. Make sure the computer name only includes ASCII characters from the following set.
    (0123456789abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ)
    Once a change in the computer name occurs, you should stop and restart Sharing on the affected computer. Uncheck and then recheck Sharing in the Services list on the left.
    Also, if the name of your backup devise contains any special characters (like an apostrophe) consider removing them and trying a backup again.
    Let is know if any of the ideas above helped.
    Cheers!

  • Error: "This backup is too large for the backup volume."

    Well TM is acting up. I get an error that reads:
    "This backup is too large for the backup volume."
    Both the internal boot disk and the external baclup drive are 1TB. The internal one has a two partitions, the OSX one that is 900GBs and a 32GB NTFS one for Boot Camp.
    The external drive is a single OSX Extended part. that is 932GBs.
    Both the Time Machine disk, and the Boot Camp disk are excluded from the backup along with a "Crap" folder for temporary large files as well as the EyeTV temp folder.
    Time Machine says it needs 938GBs to backup only the OSX disk, which has 806GBs in use with the rest free. WTFFF? The TM pane says that "only" 782GBs are going to be backed up. Where did the 938GBs figure come from?
    This happened after moving a large folder (128GB in total) from the root of the OSX disk over to my Home Folder.
    I have reformated the Time Machine drive and have no backups at all of my data and it refuses to backup!!
    Why would it need 938GBs of space to backup if the disk has "only" 806 GBs in use??? Is there anyway to reset Time Machine completely???
    Some screenshots:
    http://www.xcapepr.com/images/tm2.png
    http://www.xcapepr.com/images/tm1.png
    http://www.xcapepr.com/images/tm4.png

    xcapepr wrote:
    Time Machine says it needs 938GBs to backup only the OSX disk, which has 806GBs in use with the rest free. WTFFF? The TM pane says that "only" 782GBs are going to be backed up. Where did the 938GBs figure come from?
    Why would it need 938GBs of space to backup if the disk has "only" 806 GBs in use??? Is there anyway to reset Time Machine completely???
    TM makes an initial "estimate" of how much space it needs, "including padding", that is often quite high. Why that is, and Just exactly what it means by "padding" are rather mysterious. But it does also need work space on any drive, including your TM drive.
    But beyond that, your TM disk really is too small for what you're backing-up. The general "rule of thumb" is it should be 2-3 times the size of what it's backing-up, but it really depends on how you use your Mac. If you frequently update lots of large files, even 3 times may not be enough. If you're a light user, you might get by with 1.5 times. But that's about the lower limit.
    Note that although it does skip a few system caches, work files, etc., by default it backs up everything else, and does not do any compression.
    All this is because TM is designed to manage it's backups and space for you. Once it's initial, full backup is done, it will by default then back-up any changes hourly. It only keeps those hourly backups for 24 hours, but converts the first of the day to a "daily" backup, which it keeps for a month. After a month, it converts one per week into a "weekly" backup that it will keep for as long as it has room
    What you're up against is, room for those 30 dailies and up to 24 hourlies.
    You might be able to get it to work, sort of, temporarily, by excluding something large, like your home folder, until that first full backup completes, then remove the exclusion for the next run. But pretty soon, it will begin to fail again, and you'll have to delete backups manually (from the TM interface, not via the Finder).
    Longer term, you need a bigger disk; or exclude some large items (back-them up to a portable external or even DVD/RWs first); or a different strategy.
    You might want to investigate CarbonCopyCloner, SuperDuper!, and other apps that can be used to make bootable "clones". Their advantage, beyond needing less room, is when your HD fails, you can immediately boot and run from the clone, rather than waiting to restore from TM to your repaired or replaced HD.
    Their disadvantages are, you don't have the previous versions of changed or deleted files, and because of the way they work, their "incremental" backups of changed items take much longer and far more CPU.
    Many of us use both a "clone" (I use CCC) and TM. On my small (roughly 30 gb) system, the difference is dramatic: I rarely notice TM's hourly backups -- they usually run under 30 seconds; CCC takes at least 15 minutes and most of my CPU.

  • "This backup is too large for the backup volume

    I have a relatively small external hard drive (80 GB), but have never had a problem backing up my system. However, for a couple of weeks now, I have been unable to backup due to insufficient space. The Time Machine had been backing up usually once a week for a couple of months without deleting old backups, but now it won't back up anything. Does anyone have any idea why this all the sudden happened or and suggestions on items to take off the backup list - as I have a lot of music a pics that I can't afford to lose. Thanks!

    Sometimes, this error is legitimate. The user may not realize that they need to exclude additional hard disks that TM may be seeing. This is done in the “Options…” window of the Time Machine Preferences.
    Nevertheless, many times this error just doesn’t make sense, stating that not enough free space exists for a backup that is clearly smaller. (“The backup requires 45.9 GB but only 182.6 GB are available”)
    The answer and fix may have been discovered by a poster in the macosxhints forums: (http://forums.macosxhints.com/archive/index.php/t-84284.html)
    Essentially, while Time Machine DOES delete old backups from the sparsebundle, it DOES NOT free up the space occupied by those old backups. Eventually, "all previous backups were deleted and no space was gained. . . . What appears to be going on here is that the sparsebundle isn't self-shrinking - unused bands aren't being automagically discarded."
    The solution is to compact the TM backup sparsebundle in Terminal using:
    hdiutil compact yoursparsebundlefilename.
    He concludes, "I gained 30+gb of space on the backup volume by compacting that sparsebundle. And now TM runs just fine, since it has plenty of space."
    Obviously, this is a bug in TM. It does not appear to effect everyone, and only seems to appear under certain curcumstances.
    Let us know if this works for you.

  • This backup is too large for the backup volume - ridiculous Size!!!

    Hi .. i own a macbook 13" aluminium, I have Snow Leopard 10.6.2 , and i change my internal hard drive to a 500Gb.
    I bought 1Tb Western Digital My Book USB External Drive to use it for back ups using Time machine.. at the beginning worked great, when i changed my hard drive i restore everything in lest than 2 hours.
    Then one time, it said that the hard drive where going out of space, and i said to delete the oldest backups, it erase everything and kept the last back up. Since then, it came a message
    *_+This backup is too large for the backup volume. The backup requires 2.73EB but only 995 Gb are available.*+_
    its ridiculous, when i go to the time machine preference, it said that the full size back up it would take 83Gb only.
    I tried everything, formatting the unit, taking out the partition , and making it out again, it makes the first full back up, but then the same message...
    Please anyone... i am desperate
    Thanks Again
    Daniel

    DanielFaour wrote:
    *_+This backup is too large for the backup volume. The backup requires 2.73EB but only 995 Gb are available.*+_
    Hi, and welcome to the forums.
    That message seems to indicate that something is corrupted on your internal HD. Do a +*Verify Disk+* on it, per #A5 in the Time Machine - Troubleshooting *User Tip,* also at the top of this forum.
    If that finds errors, you'll have to use the procedure in the yellow box there to Repair them.
    If that does not find errors, Restart your Mac and do a "full reset" of Time Machine, per #A4 there.
    I tried everything, formatting the unit, taking out the partition , and making it out again, it makes the first full back up, but then the same message...
    What partition? Are there multiple partitions on your TM drive? How large is the one for Time Machine? Check the setup per #C1 of the Troubleshooting Tip.

  • "Backup is too large for the backup volume" error

    I've been backing up with TM for a while now, and finally it seems as though the hard drive is full, since I'm down to 4.2GB available of 114.4GB.
    Whenever TM tries to do a backup, it gives me the error "This backup is too large for the backup volume. The backup requires 10.8 GB but only 4.2GB are available. To select a larger volume, or make the backup smaller by excluding files, open System Preferences and choose Time Machine."
    I understand that I have those two options, but why can't TM just erase the oldest backup and use that free space to make the new backup? I know a 120GB drive is pretty small, but if I have to just keep accumulating backups infinitely, I'm afraid I'll end up with 10 years of backups and a 890-zettabyte drive taking up my garage. I'm hoping there's a more practical solution.

    John,
    Please review the following article as it might explain what you are encountering.
    *_“This Backup is Too Large for the Backup Volume”_*
    First, much depends on the size of your Mac’s internal hard disk, the quantity of data it contains, and the size of the hard disk designated for Time Machine backups. It is recommended that any hard disk designated for Time Machine backups be +at least+ twice as large as the hard disk it is backing up from. You see, the more space it has to grow, the greater the history it can preserve.
    *Disk Management*
    Time Machine is designed to use the space it is given as economically as possible. When backups reach the limit of expansion, Time Machine will begin to delete old backups to make way for newer data. The less space you provide for backups the sooner older data will be discarded. [http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.5/en/15137.html]
    However, Time Machine will only delete what it considers “expired”. Within the Console Logs this process is referred to as “thinning”. It appears that many of these “expired” backups are deleted when hourly backups are consolidated into daily backups and daily backups are consolidated into weekly backups. This consolidation takes place once hourly backups reach 24 hours old and daily backups reach about 30 days old. Weekly backups will only be deleted, or ‘thinned’, once the backup drive nears full capacity.
    One thing seems for sure, though; If a new incremental backup happens to be larger than what Time Machine currently considers “expired” then you will get the message “This backup is too large for the backup volume.” In other words, Time Machine believes it would have to sacrifice to much to accommodate the latest incremental backup. This is probably why Time Machine always overestimates incremental backups by 2 to 10 times the actual size of the data currently being backed up. Within the Console logs this is referred to as “padding”. This is so that backup files never actually reach the physically limits of the backup disk itself.
    *Recovering Backup Space*
    If you have discovered that large unwanted files have been backed up, you can use the Time Machine “time travel” interface to recovered some of that space. Do NOT, however, delete files from a Time Machine backup disk by manually mounting the disk and dragging files to the trash. You can damage or destroy your original backups by this means.
    Additionally, deleting files you no longer wish to keep on your Mac does not immediately remove such files from Time Machine backups. Once data has been removed from your Macs' hard disk it will remain in backups for some time until Time Machine determines that it has "expired". That's one of its’ benefits - it retains data you may have unintentionally deleted. But eventually that data is expunged. If, however, you need to remove backed up files immediately, do this:
    Launch Time Machine from the Dock icon.
    Initially, you are presented with a window labeled “Today (Now)”. This window represents the state of your Mac as it exists now. +DO NOT+ delete or make changes to files while you see “Today (Now)” at the bottom of the screen. Otherwise, you will be deleting files that exist "today" - not yesterday or last week.
    Click on the window just behind “Today (Now)”. This represents the last successful backup and should display the date and time of this backup at the bottom of the screen.
    Now, navigate to where the unwanted file resides. If it has been some time since you deleted the file from your Mac, you may need to go farther back in time to see the unwanted file. In that case, use the time scale on the right to choose a date prior to when you actually deleted the file from your Mac.
    Highlight the file and click the Actions menu (Gear icon) from the toolbar.
    Select “Delete all backups of <this file>”.
    *Full Backup After Restore*
    If you are running out of disk space sooner than expected it may be that Time Machine is ignoring previous backups and is trying to perform another full backup of your system? This will happen if you have reinstalled the System Software (Mac OS), or replaced your computer with a new one, or hard significant repair work done on your exisitng Mac. Time Machine will perform a new full backup. This is normal. [http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1338]
    You have several options if Time Machine is unable to perform the new full backup:
    A. Delete the old backups, and let Time Machine begin a fresh.
    B. Attach another external hard disk and begin backups there, while keeping this current hard disk. After you are satisfied with the new backup set, you can later reformat the old hard disk and use it for other storage.
    C. Ctrl-Click the Time Machine Dock icon and select "Browse Other Time Machine disks...". Then select the old backup set. Navigate to files/folders you don't really need backups of and go up to the Action menu ("Gear" icon) and select "Delete all backups of this file." If you delete enough useless stuff, you may be able to free up enough space for the new backup to take place. However, this method is not assured as it may not free up enough "contiguous space" for the new backup to take place.
    *Outgrown Your Backup Disk?*
    On the other hand, your computers drive contents may very well have outgrown the capacity of the Time Machine backup disk. It may be time to purchase a larger capacity hard drive for Time Machine backups. Alternatively, you can begin using the Time Machine Preferences exclusion list to prevent Time Machine from backing up unneeded files/folders.
    Consider as well: Do you really need ALL that data on your primary hard disk? It sounds like you might need to Archive to a different hard disk anything that's is not of immediate importance. You see, Time Machine is not designed for archiving purposes, just as a backup of your local drive(s). In the event of disaster, it can get your system back to its' current state without having to reinstall everything. But if you need LONG TERM storage, then you need another drive that is removed from your normal everyday working environment.
    This KB article discusses this scenario with some suggestions including Archiving the old backups and starting fresh [http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.5/en/15137.html]
    Let us know if this clarifies things.
    Cheers!

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