BPM as sender service to another BPM

Hi Experts,
I have a requirement, where I need to define my first BPM as sender service for second BPM. abstract interface in last send step of first BPM and abstract interface in first receive step of second BPM has same message type.
How to perform the configaration for thsi. any help can will be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Reyaz Hussain

Simply u need to configure Receiver determination such that BPM1 as sender and with your sender Abstract interface and you BPM2 as receiver.
Accordingly u need to configure interface determination between sender and receiver abstract interfaces.
You need not to create Sender Agreement and Receiver Agreement, as your sender and receiver both are BPMs(which execute in BPE (in IS)).

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I'm getting Unable to convert sender service IP_BPEL_INBOUND_ORDER to an ALE logical system on the Ack back.
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https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/903a0abc-e56e-2910-51a8-9dc616df56eb
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I am working on simple File to File Scenario where XI picks the File and process thru BPM and sends the file to R/3 Application server and wait for SYSTAT STATUS IDoc for the acknowledgement from R/3 System.
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While sending from BPM to R/3 ( IDOC) i am getting the following error :
"Unable to convert sender service <BPM_Name> to an ALE logical system"
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Hi Bujji,
I just remembered that you have to maintain your adapter specific parameters for your business process. The side effect however is that you have to define the business process name as logical system in your receiving SAP system and that you have to maintain partner profile settings.
The answer to your question is there in this Blog:
/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/03/29/xi-error--unable-to-convert-the-sender-service-to-an-ale-logical-system
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Message was edited by: Abhy Thomas

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<SAP:P2 />
<SAP:P3 />
<SAP:P4 />
<SAP:AdditionalText />
<SAP:ApplicationFaultMessage namespace="" />
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Hi,
On my new system XI 7.0, I try to configurate a simple "File -> Idoc" scenario without BPM, but I have still a classical dump:
<SAP:Code area="IDOC_ADAPTER">ATTRIBUTE_INV_SND_SERV</SAP:Code>
<SAP:Stack>Unable to convert the sender service to an ALE logical system</SAP:Stack>
Note: My Business Service's (of ECC) doesn't appeared between "sender service" and "to an ALE".
Moreover, in my payload, my IDoc has an <u>EMPTY</u> EDI_DC40 segment. Is it normal ?
I have checked:
1) the Logical System name in the SLD
2) the port definition in WE20 compared to this one of CC
3) the RFC destination in SM59 compared to this one of CC
4) the Adapter specific identifier of my Business System
5) then played with sxi_cache...
I'm a few dissapointed... I beleived to have check everything. Maybe not!
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Hi Udo,
Here's the result:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes" ?>
- 
- <SAP:OutboundBinding xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30" xmlns:SOAP="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/">
- <SAP:OutboundBindingEntry version="30">
<SAP:OutboundBindingObjectId>EDB7E1C839603FB9B04057583BE29980</SAP:OutboundBindingObjectId>
<SAP:FromPartyName />
<SAP:FromServiceName>BS__TESTXID_1</SAP:FromServiceName>
<SAP:ToPartyName />
<SAP:ToServiceName>ECB_BS_MDT720</SAP:ToServiceName>
<SAP:ToInterfaceName>DEBMAS.DEBMAS06</SAP:ToInterfaceName>
<SAP:ToInterfaceNamespace>urn:sap-com:document:sap:idoc:messages</SAP:ToInterfaceNamespace>
- <SAP:OutboundBindingAttributes>
<SAP:AdapterTypeData xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30" />
</SAP:OutboundBindingAttributes>
- <SAP:HeaderMapping>
<SAP:FieldMapping xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30" />
</SAP:HeaderMapping>
- <SAP:ChannelEntry version="30">
<SAP:PartyName xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30" />
<SAP:ServiceName xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30">ECB_BS_MDT720</SAP:ServiceName>
<SAP:ChannelName xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30">CCR_ECBMDT720_IDOC</SAP:ChannelName>
<SAP:AdapterName xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30">IDoc</SAP:AdapterName>
<SAP:AdapterNamespace xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30">http://sap.com/xi/XI/System</SAP:AdapterNamespace>
<SAP:AdapterSWCV xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30">B38BCD00E47111D7AFACDE420A1145A5</SAP:AdapterSWCV>
<SAP:AdapterEngineType xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30">IS</SAP:AdapterEngineType>
<SAP:AdapterEngineName xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30" />
<SAP:MessageProtocol xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30">IDoc</SAP:MessageProtocol>
<SAP:MessageProtocolVersion xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30" />
<SAP:TransportProtocol xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30">IDoc</SAP:TransportProtocol>
<SAP:TransportProtocolVersion xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30" />
<SAP:ChannelDirection xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30">O</SAP:ChannelDirection>
<SAP:FromPartyAgency xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30" />
<SAP:FromPartySchema xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30" />
<SAP:ToPartySchema xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30" />
<SAP:ToPartyAgency xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30" />
- <SAP:ChannelAttributes xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30">
- <SAP:AdapterTypeData xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30">
- <SAP:Attribute>
<SAP:Name>interfaceVersion</SAP:Name>
<SAP:Value>3</SAP:Value>
</SAP:Attribute>
- <SAP:Attribute>
<SAP:Name>passControlSetValues</SAP:Name>
<SAP:Value>1</SAP:Value>
</SAP:Attribute>
- <SAP:Attribute>
<SAP:Name>passReceiverValue</SAP:Name>
<SAP:Value>0</SAP:Value>
</SAP:Attribute>
- <SAP:Attribute>
<SAP:Name>passSenderValue</SAP:Name>
<SAP:Value>0</SAP:Value>
</SAP:Attribute>
- <SAP:Attribute>
<SAP:Name>port</SAP:Name>
<SAP:Value>SAPECB</SAP:Value>
</SAP:Attribute>
- <SAP:Attribute>
<SAP:Name>queueing</SAP:Name>
<SAP:Value>0</SAP:Value>
</SAP:Attribute>
- <SAP:Attribute>
<SAP:Name>restoreOriginalParty</SAP:Name>
<SAP:Value>0</SAP:Value>
</SAP:Attribute>
- <SAP:Attribute>
<SAP:Name>rfcDestination</SAP:Name>
<SAP:Value>ECBCLNT720</SAP:Value>
</SAP:Attribute>
- <SAP:Attribute>
<SAP:Name>sapRelease</SAP:Name>
<SAP:Value>640</SAP:Value>
</SAP:Attribute>
- <SAP:Attribute>
<SAP:Name>segmentVersion</SAP:Name>
<SAP:Value />
</SAP:Attribute>
</SAP:AdapterTypeData>
</SAP:ChannelAttributes>
</SAP:ChannelEntry>
</SAP:OutboundBindingEntry>
</SAP:OutboundBinding>
it seems it's ok: receiver, sender, port, rfc destination are found. But my EDI_DC40 is still empty
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
- <DEBMAS06>
- <IDOC BEGIN="">
- <EDI_DC40 SEGMENT="1">
<TABNAM />
<DIRECT />
<IDOCTYP />
<MESTYP />
<SNDPOR />
<SNDPRT />
<SNDPRN />
<RCVPOR />
<RCVPRN />
</EDI_DC40>
- <E1KNA1M SEGMENT="1">
<KUNNR>123777</KUNNR>
<NAME1>Adams</NAME1>
<NAME2>James</NAME2>
</E1KNA1M>
</IDOC>
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Dear Expert:
I received a IDOC Ack but there is an error ocour~
Unable to convert the sender service XID_900 an ALE logical system
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hi,
>>>it's very weird ....sender server should be like point to our BPM isn't?
this means that your XID_900 business system in Integration directory
does not have adapdater specific identifiers filled in
it has nothing to do with a BPM
also check out my blog:
/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/03/29/xi-error--unable-to-convert-the-sender-service-to-an-ale-logical-system
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I have done this type scenarios using A2A and BPM also. I got success.
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Hi,
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Hi Experts,
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In which while getting acknowledgement i m getting the following error.
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Hi to All..
I'm facing a problem in one scenario File to Idoc .. I got this problem
"Unable to convert the sender service to an ALE logical system" in pipeline Call Adapter.
I check this blog but the problem persist . /people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/03/29/xi-error--unable-to-convert-the-sender-service-to-an-ale-logical-system
Also I have another scenario in other Software Component Version SCW and the Idoc works correctly..
I wonder if I miss something
this the trace
<Trace level="1" type="T">----
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<Trace level="1" type="T">Get Information from SD-IDoc-Endpoint</Trace>
<Trace level="1" type="T">Sender and Receiver after Header-Mapping</Trace>
<Trace level="1" type="T">Sender service Sys_XXX</Trace>
<Trace level="1" type="T">Receiver service Sys_EDV_XXX</Trace>
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<Trace level="1" type="B" name="CL_XMS_MAIN-WRITE_MESSAGE_TO_PERSIST" />
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Hi,
in order to use only one logical system (PI's) in we20 in ECC and not as many as you have sender systems
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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes" ?>
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- <SAP:Error xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30" xmlns:SOAP="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" SOAP:mustUnderstand="">
<SAP:Category>XIAdapter</SAP:Category>
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<SAP:P2 />
<SAP:P3 />
<SAP:P4 />
<SAP:AdditionalText />
<SAP:ApplicationFaultMessage namespace="" />
<SAP:Stack>Error: Transaction IDX1: Port SAPRP1, client , RFC destination contain errors</SAP:Stack>
<SAP:Retry>M</SAP:Retry>
</SAP:Error>
==========================================
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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes" ?>
- 
- <SAP:Error xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30" xmlns:SOAP="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" SOAP:mustUnderstand="">
<SAP:Category>XIAdapter</SAP:Category>
<SAP:Code area="IDOC_ADAPTER">ATTRIBUTE_INV_SND_SERV</SAP:Code>
<SAP:P1 />
<SAP:P2 />
<SAP:P3 />
<SAP:P4 />
<SAP:AdditionalText />
<SAP:ApplicationFaultMessage namespace="" />
<SAP:Stack>Unable to convert sender service to an ALE logical system</SAP:Stack>
<SAP:Retry>M</SAP:Retry>
</SAP:Error>
=============================================
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Please treat this as urgent

Hi,
This error is caused when Sender System name does not match the logical system name of partner. As you mentioned you have done all the steps to ensure that, here's a checklist that could be helpful:
1. Check adapter specific parameters for sender system.
2. Maintain header mapping in receiver agreement and ensure that sender service name provided is same as business partner name required in R3 and business partner type is LS.
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