Can Transactional Transient fields be modified outside of transaction in jdoPostLoad?

Question

It is not clear from specs whether Transactional Transient fields be
modified in jdoPostLoad. The specs state "Non-persistent fields whose value
depends on values of default fetch group fields should be initialized in
this method". However it can't be done for Transactional Transient (which
are Non-persistent ) fields outside of transaction. Often those
"Non-persistent fields whose value depends on values of default fetch group
fields" should be transactional but they can't as there is no way they can
be initialized in jdoPostLoad()
From specs:
10.1 jdoPostLoad
public void jdoPostLoad();
This method is called after the default fetch group values have been loaded
from the StateManager into the instance. Non-persistent fields whose value
depends on values of default fetch group fields should be initialized in
this method. This method is not modified by the enhancer. Only fields that
are in the default fetch group should be accessed by this method, as other
fields are not guaranteed to be initialized. This method might register the
instance with other objects in the runtime environment.
The context in which this call is made does not allow access to other
persistent JDO in-stances.

Answer 1

Right now Kodo allows modification to Transactional Transient fields outside
of transaction. However it would throw an exception if I attemp to modify a
collection which is declared as Transactional Transient
"Alex Roytman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:b3bsta$13f$[email protected]..
It is not clear from specs whether Transactional Transient fields be
modified in jdoPostLoad. The specs state "Non-persistent fields whosevalue
depends on values of default fetch group fields should be initialized in
this method". However it can't be done for Transactional Transient (which
are Non-persistent ) fields outside of transaction. Often those
"Non-persistent fields whose value depends on values of default fetchgroup
fields" should be transactional but they can't as there is no way theycan
be initialized in jdoPostLoad()
From specs:
10.1 jdoPostLoad
public void jdoPostLoad();
This method is called after the default fetch group values have beenloaded
from the StateManager into the instance. Non-persistent fields whose value
depends on values of default fetch group fields should be initialized in
this method. This method is not modified by the enhancer. Only fields that
are in the default fetch group should be accessed by this method, as other
fields are not guaranteed to be initialized. This method might registerthe
instance with other objects in the runtime environment.
The context in which this call is made does not allow access to other
persistent JDO in-stances.