Cannot change profit center in profit segment
i have a problem while changing profit center in profit segment via t-code VA42.
system is not allowed changing them after the contract item was billed.
by checking characteristic derivation rules in t-code KEDR.
system issue message "This derivation step is predefined and cannot be modified or deleted." for PRCTR field.
I think it's the result from characteristic derivation attribute which set to "Do Not Overwrite If Fld Already Filled."
can anyone help me change them into "Overwrite with New Value Only If New Value Found."?
or anyother suggestions?
best regards,
Panuwat Sarunsiri
PS. my SAP system is 4.6C
The following are created as profitability segments by deafault which we cant change.
Controlling area
Company code
Business area
Profit center
best regards
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