ChaRM: usage of several transport layers in different maintenance projects
Hi!
I have heared on SAP TechED about the following possibility:
it should be possible to have several maintenance projects with different standard transport layers.
Can some one of you confirm or reject this statement?
Our problem is we work in same client in DEV system and transport in same client in QAS system and have several transport layers. All of them should be used by ChaRM.
Other question:
which new functions will be come with SPS 18 in ChaRM?
Thank you very much!
Holger Thomasson
Hi
Sorry for my ignorance but the Transport/Routes/Layer are releated to the Development Class.. and ChaRM dont take in count this...
At the end you have 3 Development Clients...100/200/300..you need to create 3 project..
thxs
Wence
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ChaRM: Several Transport layers
Hi!
We would like to implement ChaRM for the 3 tier landscape (DEV:100 --> QAS:200 --> PRD:100) with several transport layers and transport routes:
a) u201CZDEVu201D u2013 Standard transport layer
b) u201CSAPu201D u2013 SAP transport layer
c) u201CYCSTu201D u2013 transport layer for internal customizing
d) u201CZEXTu201D u2013 transport layer for external vendor
The problem we have is that transports within ChaRM are supported in the standard transport layer of each client.
It means that the transport requests of transport layers u201CYCSTu201D and u201CZEXTu201D that are non-standard transport layer will be ignored by CHaRM.
Has some one of you experience with configuration of ChaRM with several transport layers and can give an advice what is the best solution in my case?
Possible solutions:
a) Creation of additional clients in DEV system and assigning them other standard transport layer (e.g. DEV:200 gets u201CYCSTu201D, DEV:300 gets u201CZEXTu201D as standard transport layer)
Then it should be possible to create three maintenance projects:
1) MP1: (DEV:100 --> QAS:200 --> PRD:100) with transport layer u201CZDEVu201D
2) MP2: (DEV:200 --> QAS:200 --> PRD:100) with transport layer u201CYCSTu201D
3) MP3: (DEV:300 --> QAS:200 --> PRD:100) with transport layer u201CZEXTu201D
b) Migration of all the non-standard layers to standard transport layer.
c) Separation of ChaRM and none-ChaRM transport layers (TMS)
It would be great to get some feedback/suggestions/input
Thank you very much indeed!
regardsHi
Sorry for my ignorance but the Transport/Routes/Layer are releated to the Development Class.. and ChaRM dont take in count this...
At the end you have 3 Development Clients...100/200/300..you need to create 3 project..
thxs
Wence -
ChaRM with several transport layers/routes
Hi!
We have a very comprehensive transport landscape where more than one transport layer is necessary.
The reasons therefore:
we implement none-SAP software and need an extra transport layer therefore
the developers still need an extra transport layer because of they assigned them their packages
Currently we have one and the same client in DEV system where all the transport layers reside.
Now we are thinking to implement ChaRM for all the transport layers.
1) Approach of splitting transport layers and working with different DEV clients
We split the transport layer and assign them the different standard layer
transport layer ZDV1: client 100
transport layer ZDV2: client 200
transport layer ZDV3: client 300
Question:
Is that possible to have here one maintenance project with more that one DEV system
(DEV:100, DEV:200 and DEV:300)?
Any helpful information will be very appreciated.
ThomHi Thom..
transport layer ZDV1: client 100
transport layer ZDV2: client 200
transport layer ZDV3: client 300
Why you have 3 Transports Layer???...
if you have
DEV100 QAS100 PRD100
DEV200
DEV300
Usually you have only 1 Layer from DEV100 to QAS100 (Consolidation Type)
To move from DEV100 to DEV200/300 use SCC1
IF you have
DEV100 -
> QAS100 -
> PRD100
DEV200 QAS200
DEV300
You create 1 transport group
DEV100 -
> QAS100 ---> PRD100
|-->QAS200
Thanks
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ChaRM with several transport layers
Hi!
We would like to use Solman ChaRM approach.
According to SPRO-documentation ChaRM only supports consolidation routes from standard transport layer.
We have besides the standard transport layer other transport layer and have the following question
1)What will happen when the developer try to change and import into QAS system object assigning to none-standard transport layer?
1a) ChaRM does not allow to change this object and the appropriate pop up window comes up
1b) ChaRM integrate this transport layer as standard transport layer
Any helpful information will be very appreciated
Thank you very much!
regards
ThomHello Thom,
I think, your question is almost independent from CHaRM. This is handled by the transport management system (TMS). If your developer changes the object assignment to a transport layer, and there is a transport track for this layer to the (same) QAS it should work. But if this QAS is not configured in CHaRM as a target system (in SOLAR_PROJECT_ADMIN), SolMan will probably raise an error message.
Also if the transport layer assignment / dev package not valid for this transport track, you will not able to release the transport -> SolMan is just using TMS mechanism and this will bring up an error message in CRMD_ORDER.
Unfortunately you can't see the transport logs in CRMD_ORDER directly, so the answer to 1a) is: In case of trouble releasing the transport you will get an error, but not the full error message.
1b) ChaRM cannot change a transport layer to a standard transport layer, this must be done using STMS on the transport daimn controller.
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We have the following [SAP system landscape |http://www.file-upload.net/view-1086963/SDN_TMS_Ist_Soll.jpg.html] and would like to use ChaRM approach simultaneously.
What are the minimal requirements concerning transport layers/routes, which settings should be changed?
How much and which transport layer/routes does ChaRM need?
a) 1 any new transport layer/route
b) standard transport layer, transport layer "SAP" and others
Should all the standard transport layer/routes from virtual systems to real QAS and PRD systems or can I start as follows:
1) Leave the current TMS settings unchanged
2) Activate the extended transport control
Result: the current setting will be client specific and all the old transport requests will be moved to client specific transport routes
3) change the transport strategy (from mass transport to single transport)
3) Define new transport layer
4) Define new transport route for SAP objects from DEV to QAS
and assign the transport layer from 3) (client specific)
5) Define new transport route ZXXX from DEV to QAS
and assign the transport layer from 3) (client specific)
6) Define the delivery transport route from QAS to PRD (client specific)
7) activate and distribute the settings
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Solmaniacs' assumptions are correct. You can have as many source clients as you want.
As long as
- STMS configuration (transport routes, and domain links) are consistent
- SMSY configuration (logical components are declared properly with assigning the right role types to systems/clients)
- Project declaration are done correctly (so that from Solman solar_project_admin you can read the STMS as confiured in the distant STMS domain)
- IMPORTANT: those configuration GO ALONG with each other !! (SMSY should nt contradict STMS for example...)
The tasklist that is generated for each Solman project will be as follow
- Node 1: Header Tasks (commun to all systems)
- Node x: Corresponding to track x declared in Project (each Source System will have his own node with the corresponding track under)
- Node x+1
- Node ...
- Last Node : Tasks for Tasklist closure - checks on scma consistancy and CTS projects closure
So you'll always have n+2 nodes in your tasklist; n beeing the number of declared source (=dev) systems in project
For each action launched from change docuemnts like creation of TR, release of TR or Retrofit (as Solmaniac said) you'll have an additional pop-up that will appears letting you choose the system you want to use for the action
Hope its helpful
Regards
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ChaRM: Several maintenance cycles in one maintenance project?
Hi!
We are working with urgent correction within ChaRM and thinking about to implement the normal corrections as well.
Our ChaRM workflow for normal corrections is characterized by:
a)corrections with different Life cycle (those who will be processed within 1 week, other with 2 week, etc.)
Questions:
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2) What will happen with all the normal corrections and urgent corrections that have a long life cycle (status: in development, test, etc.) when the charm manager set the status of maintenance cycle in u201CGo liveu201D?
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Maintenance cycle and SMI project is a 1:1 relationship.
In status GoLive you will be able to continue developement/work on normal corrections but you will not be able to release any transport requests/create transport of copies so your testings in QA will be limited.
In phase GoLive you are able to import requests into production.
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