Condition based Tax Procedure
Dear All,
Condition based tax procedure will be used to calculate Excise Duties only, remaining taxcess handled by the Tax Types , Is it right? in TAXINN procudure. How we can able to handle excise only condition based and other taxes from Tax tpes.
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BASB CONDITION IN TAX PROCEDURE.
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Pb00--100 (Gross Value )
ra01--2 (Discount )
Net value--98
My question is while creating Purchase Order if i give Gross value as 100 as above
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Tax is always based on net payable amount to the Vendor.
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Venu -
Hi,
What is the difference between TAXINN and TAXINJ and which procedure we use? there are lot of procedures...
Thanks,
Gani..The only difference between TAXINJ & TAXINN is that TAXINJ is formula
based tax procedure which is dependant to a large extent on routines
to calculate taxes at each level.
TAXINN on the other hand is condition based tax procedure which is very
similar to the standard pricing procedure & is not dependant on routines
and other programs to fetch taxes. It is simply dependant on condition
records maintained for each of the tax conditions.
Prior to R/3 Enterprise we had only formula-based and from R/3 Enterpri
version you will have the option of Formula-based or Condition-based.
If you select TAXINN, it will support only condition- based excise
determination. And if select TAXINJ, you will have the option of Formula
-based and Condition-based (in SD not MM).
If you have future plans for extending your organisation to our new
dimension product such as CRM....then using TAXINJ would mean that the
formulas would need to be copied/rewritten to the CRM IPC. Where as you
would not be required to do that in TAXINN....
So if you do not have any plans for extending SAP solutions in your
organisation then you can use TAXINJ, else it is recommended that you
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HI CIN GURU'S,
Can anyone please explain me why different tax procedures are used,
These below procedures are used for factory sales...
J1INFAC (condition-based excise determination) and JFACT (formula-based excise determination).
Then why TAXINN & TAXINJ....
getting confused, please help ASAP.
Please explain me how, where, why these procedures to be used and how does it would impact !!!
Thank you,
DAVIDDifference between TAXINJ and TAXINN
TAXINJ:
1. It is Formula Based Tax procedure.
2. It was most commonly used upto intial phase of R/3 4.7, but the latter implementations were with TAXINN.
3. Tax Code plays a vital role, as the Tax Rate are maintained in Tax Code.
4. It is complex compared to TAXINN
TAXINN:
1. It is Condition Based Tax procedure.
2. Tax Code is required to be maintained in Condition Record, & if Tax Code is not found in Condition Record, Sales Cycle will go upto billing, but not release to accounting. Hence even a single Tax code may suffice the requirement for different Tax rate.
Regards,
Rajesh Banka
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Let me know recommended Tax Procedure for CIN
I heard from some of my friends Condition based Tax procedure is recommended by SAP (ie. TAXINN).
If the above statement is true, Can any help me to identify the SAP Note no. for this recommendation? Because i need to give the same to my client.
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VenkatHi,
952289 - General Clarifications on TAXINN
950976 - Country Version India (CIN) Master note for MM FAQs
Go to following link
[https://websmp106.sap-ag.de/notes]
and enter Search Terms as "TAXINN" it will provide list of all the possible SAP Notes relevant to TAXINN -
Display Taxes procedure in Purchase order
Dear BADA guru's!!
while creating Purchase Order in Invoice tab, after clicking the taxes ,the procedur in display mode.In the same screen left side we have some buttons for forward and backward.The tabs itself in display mode.But my requirement is that tabs should be in change mode.Is it possible to change in change mode.
pls suggest.
regards
UNREDDYIt is not the stadard practice.
condition should come through condition record only.
Thats why TAXINN is called condition based tax procedure. -
Right now which tax procedure is suitable for indian implementations
hi,
sap gurus,
can any body suggest me exactly that right now which tax
procedure is suitable for indian implementation projects.
or
right now all companies are trying to implement which type of
tax procedures out of TAXINN AND TAXINJ.
plz suggest excatly
regards,
balaji.thi,
The main difference is, TAXINN is Condition Based Tax Procedure while TAXINJ is Formula based.
In Tax Procedure (TAXINJ) we have to maintain Tax Codes through FTXP while in case of TAXINN we just need to maintain the condition records.
TAXINN is being used more becuase this Procedure it is more flexible as you can change the condition record any time while in case of TAXINJ if want to make a change in tax then you will have to make the changes in FTXP that is master data.
regards
sadhu kishore -
could someone please provide me steps for tax procedures in MM
What are the SAP Tax Procedures to configure?
OBBG - Assign Country to calculation procedure.
OBCO - Specify structure for Tax Jurisdiction code. For country like U.S.A.
LG -> character length of first level of hierarchy within your tax jurisdiction code structure.
LG -> Second level of hierarchy as above.
LG -> Third level of hierarchy as above.
LG -> Fourth level of hierarchy as above.
TX -> Tick if you want the system to determine taxes on a line by line basis instead of determining them on a cumulative basis
per tax jurisdiction code.
OBCP - Define Tax Jurisdiction code
Dil -> Tick if you do not want tax amounts included in the based amount used for calculating cash discounts.
Txl -> Tick if you want the cash discount amount deducted from the base amount that is used to calculate taxes.
FTXP - Define Taxes on Sales/Purchases Code.
OBCL - Allow Tax codes for non-taxable transactions.
There is two type of pricing procedures,one is our pure MM pricing procedure to calculate Basic price,Discount,freight etc
Second one is taxprocedure this is FI Persons they will configure taxprocedure.In Indian scenarios there is TAX INN and TAXINJ.In defination itself its saying TAXINN is for Condition based tax procedure and TAXINJ is for Formula based tax procedure.
Basically there are two types of taxes that is Excise and sales tax.
In Excise there are Basic excise duty,E cess on Basis Excise duty and finally Secondary and highere education cess on Excise duty.apart from Additional excise duty and Special excise duty its depending upon Material.
In sales tax also VAT,CST are there.
For Calculating these taxes first you have to 1)create atxprocedure in Financial accounting-Financial accounting global settings-Basic settings----.
2)Assign taxprocedures to the country.
3)create Taxcode.
4)Specify Nondeductable taxes to the country.
5)assign G/L accounts for the account key.
Tha above said one is BAsic settings(essential part)
Major part is CIN settings.
1)Excise settings.
2)Company code setting
3)Excise group
4)Plant setting
5)Series group
6)Excise transactions setting
7)Account determanation
8)Master data.
Create Material Master and Vendor master.maintain master data for this in J1ID(Chapter ID,Chapter iD and Material Combination,Cenvat determination and Vendor Excise details.)
Maintain Condition records in FV11 through different Condition types.
Now u can create Purchase order and in Invoice tab and taxes we can see the tax details.
Whatever i explained above its for TAXINN> -
Are tax procedures TAXIN and TAXINN same?
Guys, in OBYZ transaction I don't find TAXINN, I find only TAXIN. Are these one and the same? If not, how do I activate TAXINN in the system?
Regards,Hi,
When you enter a purchasing document, for example, a purchase order, the R/3 System automatically calculates the applicable excise duties using the condition technique. The standard system comes with two tax calculation procedures:
- TAXINN - IN; India taxes new
- TAXINJ - Sales Tax India
TAXINN:
1. It is Condition Based Tax procedure.
2. Tax Code is required to be maintained in Condition Record, & if Tax Code is not found in Condition Record, Sales Cycle will go upto billing, but not release to accounting. Hence even a single Tax code may suffice the requirement for different Tax rate.
3. Tax condition record is maintain through TCode FV11.
4. It only supports condition-based excise determination.
TAXINJ:
1. It is Formula Based Tax procedure.
2. It was most commonly used upto initial phase of R/3 4.7, but the latter implementations were with TAXINN.
3. Tax Code plays a vital role, as the Tax Rate are maintained in Tax Code in TCode FTXP..
4. It is complex compared to TAXINN
5. It can supports both condition-based excise determination and formula-based excise determination.
6. For Example, code for 362 routine for Condition formula for alternative calculation type
Activation steps are same as above:
>Go to transaction code OBCO to define the tax procedure TAXINN and TAXINJ.
>Then assign country to tax procedure in transaction code OBBG
Regards,
Jyoti -
CIN, TAX PROCEDURES PURPOSE
Helloooo SD Gurus,
Pl resolve my doubt regarding the exact difference between taxinj, taxinn procedures with live example.
tnx in advance.
yours
venkat gThe only difference between TAXINJ & TAXINN is that TAXINJ is formula
based tax procedure which is dependant to a large extent on routines
to calculate taxes at each level.
TAXINN on the other hand is condition based tax procedure which is very
similar to the standard pricing procedure & is not dependant on routines
and other programs to fetch taxes. It is simply dependant on condition
records maintained for each of the tax conditions.
Prior to R/3 Enterprise we had only formula-based and from R/3 Enterpri
version you will have the option of Formula-based or Condition-based.
If you select TAXINN, it will support only condition- based excise
determination. And if select TAXINJ, you will have the option of Formula
-based and Condition-based (in SD not MM).
If you have future plans for extending your organisation to our new
dimension product such as CRM....then using TAXINJ would mean that the
formulas would need to be copied/rewritten to the CRM IPC. Where as you
would not be required to do that in TAXINN....
So if you do not have any plans for extending SAP solutions in your
organisation then you can use TAXINJ, else it is recommended that you
use TAXINN only. -
Pricing Procedure vs Tax Procedure
Dear all,
The scenario is as follows
My company purchase material from a trading company which imports the materials from other countries.
In PO we have maintained import pricing procedure so that we can take the duties paid by trading company during import.
We pay duties to the trading company.
Taxes are also involved in this.
I have created a pricing procedure for this seperate where there is a line with 'condition value' = total of
[ Net price of materialCustoms dutyCVD+ECS on CVD + SEC ECS on CVD + AED]
Now we all know tax should be calculated on this total amount.
In normal case the Net price will come as the base price for tax calculation which is here wrong.
I want this total amount to be the base amount for tax calculation in tax procedure.
What i need to assign in the pricing procedure against this 'total' so that it is taken as base amount for tax calculation
How to do this?
sapmmlearnerHello,
As per your said scenario:
My company purchase material from a trading company which imports the materials from other countries.
In PO we have maintained import pricing procedure so that we can take the duties paid by trading company during import.
We pay duties to the trading company.
Taxes are also involved in this.
I have created a pricing procedure for this seperate where there is a line with 'condition value' = total of
Net price of materialCustoms dutyCVD+ECS on CVD + SEC ECS on CVD + AED
Now we all know tax should be calculated on this total amount.
In normal case the Net price will come as the base price for tax calculation which is here wrong.
I want this total amount to be the base amount for tax calculation in tax procedure.
What i need to assign in the pricing procedure against this 'total' so that it is taken as base amount for tax calculation
My question is if your company and your vendor /supplier (Is a trading company from where you are procuring the materials) are geographically located at the same place (such is within country in same place or within country at different places, etc)
means, then you should not worry about the Import duty. Because for you, when you procure the goods it should be treated as Inland/Domestic procurement (by the by your vendor, who is trading company procures materials from Abroad, that is his risk or his duty to pay the Customs duty or Importation clearing charges, etc since he is procuring from outside the country through Import procurement process, so don't worry for that).
Hence when you order the material through standard PO to your vendor (that is trading company), then Logically it must be Domestic pricing procedure (there is no involvement of import duties, importation, etc), that means system will pickup the Pricing procedure - Domestic - which consists of Gross price, and all other suitable pricing elements which are in currently used in your company (for the vendor) and part from the tax condition elements such as Basic excise duty (BED), SED, AED, Cess, etc... these are not part of the Pricing proceudre, but relevent to the Tax procedure. So which can be arranged in a sequential order for the Tax procedure - TAXINN - which is currently in use from any industry - for calculating the tax amount for the item that you procure from the supplier or vendor. And thats how you (your company) will pay the Duty or tax amount agains the goods that are procured from external source.
Please note: the tax caluclation is always based on the Base amount, not on anything else, that is based on the total ordered amount through the PO. And the tax amount is always interm calculated by adopting the suitable tax code in the PO (in item details), provided you have to maintain all these tax condition elements in a Condition records through FV11 t.code. then once the tax code (i.e., Input tax - which is tax on purchases) is adopted for the PO, system will pick all the valid condition records and sum the total tax amount in the PO.
Maintainaing of condition records is required, because the tax procedure which is a Condition based tax calculation procedure. hence you have to maintian the condition records as you said. Then it will calculate correctly.
Hope it clarifies,
Regards,
Sapsrin -
Dear all,
What exactly the difference between Taxinj (condition based and formula based tax procedure), Taxinn (conditionbased taxprocedure)?I want to know the advantages & disadvantages of both.
Thanks.
Regards,
Aditya.Taxinj :
1. This we call as formulae pricing procedure.
2. condition record is calculated based on the tax code.
Taxinn:
1. This we call as condition based pricing procedure.
2. The condition record is determined based on the tax code as well as condition record.
Mainly if we have big project it is not sufficient to get the condition record for tax conditions through tax code, so it is necessary to maintain the condition record.
Ex: Tax code is a two letter alpha numeric naming convention we use. ex if it country USA , U1 - - - - U9 .or ua - - - uz.
If we want to maintain more then this it is very difficult , so this is an disadvantage for the formulae pricing procedure.
Thanks
Gopalkrishna -
TAXINJ WITH CONDITION BASED CALCULATION
Hi MM Gurus
We are using TAXINJ procedure for tax calculation with formula base calculation (i.e. tax rates are maintains in J1ID ). As we now that TAXINJ procedure support both condition based and formula based tax calculation. But when I want to use the condition based tax calculation with TAXINJ by maintaining the condition record in FV11, I am getting the tax calculated with formula based only. System is ignoring the condition record maintain in FV11. So please explain how to use the TAXINJ procedure with condition based calculation by maintaining the condition record.
Reward point will be given please ..
J K Patel
Ahmedabad
GujaratHi JK,
if you r using taxinj, then system picks up the rate from J1ID only. if you want to maintain the condition records in FV11 then delete the rates in J1ID. hope this will solve your problem.
Regards,
patil -
Tax procedure condition based / formula based
Hi,
I have a query.
1.Based on tax procedure how we can identify that the tax procedure is formula based or condition based.
2.what are advantages over one another.
3.Is their any other way we can find out tax procedure attached to po is formula based / condition based.
4.What is sequence to create procedure and maintain record for these two procedure.
Thanks & Regards
Atharva G.Hi Atharva,
I will list out the differences and advamtages between the two
TAX INJ procedure is formula based
TAX INN procedure is condition based
In TAX INJ to define the tax rates we are using excise tax rate in J1ID AND tax code ( FTXP)
In TAXINN nothing we are entering in tax code also , we are entering every duties in FV11( condition records)
Amending the duty rates is very easy in case of TAXINN than TAXINJ since we are mentioning the tax duties in FV11 through validity periods, if the tax rate is changed from that date we can maintain the record for the new period in FV11
IN TAXINN assign taxcode to company code is manadatory but its not manadatory in case of TAXINJ
Kindly get back to me, if you have any more clarifications.
Balakrishna R.V
Sonata Software Pvt Ltd.
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