Counter output TTL high when opening VI

I am using PCI-6713,and I found that when I open a VI which contains AO VIs or CTR VIs,the output TTL signals of CTRs change to high(5V).While this happened,I used CTR control VI to reset the counter,but it didn't work(still output 5V).If I open the MAX program first and then open the above VIs,there's no problem.
What should I do..?
Thanks!!

Hello;
You can include a sequence structure before your VI code, and have the Device Reset.vi on that sequence.
That VI resets all the parameters of the DAQ board to their default values.
Hope this helps.
Filipe A.
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National Instruments

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How to filter starttrigger on counter output precisely

HW PCI6602
Measurement studio 2008 (C#)NI-DAQmx 9.02I’m trying to trig a camera using the output from a counter.
The camera should be trigged when the counter input pulse width is larger than approx (filterPulseWidth 10us).To do this a have set up the following tasktask.COChannels.CreatePulseChannelTime(counter, "TriggerTaskChannel", COPulseTimeUnits.Seconds, COPulseIdleState.Low, 0, 80E-6, 0.007); task.Triggers.StartTrigger.Type = StartTriggerType.DigitalEdge; task.Triggers.StartTrigger.DigitalEdge.Edge = DigitalEdgeStartTriggerEdge.Rising; task.Triggers.StartTrigger.Retriggerable = true;task.Triggers.StartTrigger.DigitalEdge.DigitalFilterMinimumPulseWidth = filterPulseWidth; task.Triggers.StartTrigger.DigitalEdge.DigitalFilterEnable = true;Unfortunatly this filter has the following behaviour”If the period of the filter clock timebase is tfltrclk, this filter guarantees topass pulse widths that are 2*tfltrclk or longer and to block pulse widths thatare tfltrclk or shorter. A pulse with a width between these two ranges may ormay not pass, depending on the phase of the pulse with respect to the filterclock timebase”.It means that I have no sharp distinction on my filter as one would when applying a filter to an ordinary pulse width measuring task. Implementing this with via the software in a callback is to slow.The bottom line is that I would like to generate a pulse on my counter output when the trigger/counter input is greater than say 10us. The output pulse could be predetermind as in the sample code above or as long as the filtered input (I.e counter just pass filtered input to my output).How can this be done? BR
Jongas
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Hi Jongas,
Is it OK if the trigger is sent once the pulse hits 10 us, rather than
on the exact falling edge? I'll assume the exact timing isn't as important, but you would like the trigger to occur very close to the falling edge (within a couple of us). The important thing is that we trigger as close as possible to when the PWM has hit 50% duty cycle.
Some brainstorming:
Digital Filtering on the 660x Isn't the Best for This:
Digital filtering might not be as practical here on your 6602 due to the region of uncertainty between 5 and 10 (or 10 and 20) us pulses. The TIO boards count two consecutive edges of a filter clock to determine when to pass a signal through so the guaranteed rejected pulse width is always half of your guaranteed passed pulse width (providing an external filter clock timebase that is synchronized with your external signal could potentially reduce this uncertainty but I honestly haven't tried this before and I would imagine it is not going to be very straightforward).
X Series Alternative:
Our X Series devices use a different method of digital filtering that would work better for you. If a hardware change is an option (and you can use PCIe) then you might consider this. You could use the 20 MHz timebase as your filter clock timebase and could guarantee to pass 10 us (200/20M) and reject 9.95 us (201/20M). The 6320 is currently our lowest cost X Series board. A couple of points about this solution:
1. To configure the PFI filter, you need to use some sort of dummy task to
access the property nodes. Here is an
example of this (although it is written in LabVIEW).
2. You can route the filtered PFI signal to be exported on another PFI line, but this will reserve Counter 3. This is documented in the Device Routes tab of Measurement and Automation Explorer.
3. The filtered output will be 9.95-10 us delayed from the input signal, so you could trigger the camera off of the rising edge of the filtered output directly and be fairly close to the actual falling edge.
External AND Gate Alternative:
You could configure a Counter Output to generate a re-triggerable pulse with a 10 us initial delay (to be triggered off of the rising edge of your PWM signal). Assuming the pulse is short enough to complete before the next period of your PWM signal, the counter output would only be high at the same time as the PWM signal if the signal was longer than 10 us. Use the external AND gate to combine these two signals and the result would be the trigger for your camera (the rising edge would correspond to 10 us after the PWM signal first goes high).
If you wanted to you could make the counter output pulse a little longer (say 8 us) and trigger the camera off of the falling edge out of the AND gate (a.k.a. rising edge out of a NAND gate) which would line up with the exact falling edge of the PWM signal. Don't make the CO pulse too long or it will overlap with the next period of the PWM.
Another Idea:
One idea that I keep coming back to is to use the internal rollover event of a counter input task (a pulse is generated whenever a counter rolls over on its Internal Output which can be routed to a PFI line). I don't think this will work, but the idea in theory would be to:
1. Set Default state to known value (e.g. 2^32-200).
2. Gate the Counter so it only counts during the time PWM is high. Have it count the 20 MHz timebase.
3. Reset the Counter to default state on the falling edge of the PWM signal.
4. The counter would rollover if 200 pulses occurred of the 20 MHz timebase (10 us), and the Counter Output could be routed to a PFI line to trigger the camera.
The problem is that there is no good way to reset the counter except for an encoder measurement (Kevin has already made a nice suggestion about this). A Pulse Width Measurement would technically reset the counter, but you cannot currently set the default value of a Pulse Width Measurement task so there is no way to make the rollover happen prematurely).
Configuring an encoder measurement and working with the multiple counters on the 6602 to produce appropriate A,B, and Z signals might be a method to look into further, but at this point I think you'd be better off with an external AND gate.
I don't want to say it's impossible with just the 6602, but I can't think of a straightforward way to go about it without external hardware (although maybe I can sleep on it and think of something later... how many counters do you have to work with?).
With your current NI Hardware, I think your best bet is to go with an external AND gate. If you're planning on purchasing an X Series card the digital filtering idea is actually not a bad way to go.
I hope this is helpful!
Best Regards,
John Passiak

How to Immediately Change Counter Output Rate?

I have a piece of code that largely works like this example: http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/epd/p/id/5493
In other words, I set up the Counter Output with some initial frequency and duty cycle, but then during the main loop of my program I continuously change the frequency to a new value based on other criteria.
I'm using an M-series PXI card and LabVIEW RT.
The problem I'm having is that the card waits for the next edge before changing the counter output rate. For instance, lets say it is going at a low frequency and I am upping to a high frequency. If the command arrives in the middle of the current pulse, it will wait to complete the low-rate pulse before starting the high frequency output. Is there a way to make it interrupt the current count and immediately start counting at the new rate?
Thanks,
Isaac

Hi Isaac,
I posted the code in LV 8.2 so you should be able to open it now (it sometimes takes several minutes to upload).
There are a few limitations to using the digital lines instead of the counters:
1. The digital lines are updated off of a sample clock which will be much slower than a timebase. For example, on the 6221 the maximum update rate is 1 MHz, while the counter output has a max timebase of 80 MHz. As a result, the number of frequencies you can generate are going to be more restricted (divide down from 1 MHz vs. 80 MHz).
2. On M series devices, the digital lines must be clocked from an external source. This could be generated from a counter
3. You have to build the digital waveform, which is a bit tricky (I think the example code should help out with that but I haven't had time to thoroughly test it).
4. If you are generating digital lines at fast rates, you will need to write quite a few samples at a time to the output buffer to ensure the data does not underflow. If the buffer includes multiple periods of the digital signal, you would have the case that using the counter output would still update more immediately.
Again, to determine the best course of action it would be useful to know what frequencies you want to generate and which exact hardware you are using. I just mentioned the digital lines as an alternative to the counters, but it might not be ideal for your situation.
-John
John Passiak

How to use counter output pulses to trigger analog input?

Hello all,
I hope the kind people using this forum can help me, a lowly beginner LV programmer! I have been attempting to create a VI that produces a user defined number of TTL pulses, separated by every n seconds. Each TTL would be outputted to a stimulator, which in turn generates its own TTL. Using the stimulator-generated TTL, I would like to trigger finite analog data acquisition (e.g. for every TTL, trigger the collection of a data sweep that contains 4000 samples (collected at 4000 Hz), with 1000 samples collected pre-trigger. I would like to also be able to see each data sweep as it is triggered on a chart. As I understand things (lots of online/book/forum reading), I should be using the counter output to generate my TTL pulses, and syncing each counter produced TTL with analog input, as well as using a reference trigger. Also, the AI part should be started first, so that I don' t miss any counter outputs. If it matters, I also need to use one of the AI channels to acquire the TTL, so I can see my stimulator-induced responses to the stimulator in time.
I am able to generate the TTL pulses from the counter output, but I am having a problem with the AI part. I am unsure how to sync the counter output with AI. Also, since I need to acquire pre-trigger samples, I would be needing to acquire samples continuously, but when I set 'continuous samples' on daqmx timing, the VI doesn't work (hence why's its set to 'finite samples').
I hope someone out there can help, as I have been at this for what seems ages, with limited success. I am using a USB-6259 and LabView v8.2. Thanks!
Attachments:
RC001 v_1.vi ‏49 KB

Hello,
Due to the fact that analog tasks themselves are not retriggerable, a
pulse train produced by a counter is always used as the sample clock
for the analog input task in order to recreate a retriggerable effect
for analog input. This can be done by creating a finite pulse train set
to retriggerable using the DAQmx Trigger Property Node, or the pulse
train could be continuous and just be gated by another signal. Neither
of these methods can be properly applied in hardware to create a
retriggerable reference trigger. You can however implement something
similar in software by just stopping and restarting your reference
triggered analog input task within a loop. There will be some delay
between when the task is stopped and restarted, as these events require
software intervention, but if there is enough time between when each
trigger signal is generated, there should not be any noticeable delay
or missed samples.
I have attached an example of this!
Mark B
===If this fixes your problem, mark as solution!===
Attachments:
RC001 v_1mod.vi ‏25 KB

What is the best way to Sync Digital Output(TTL) with Analog Output?

I am trying to generate Analog waveform that synchronize the rising edge of a digital signal(TTL). The ttl will be used as trigger for camera. The board I have is USB-6343X. In my draft, I used a clock as ttl so I can tune frequency easily. Could any one tell me what's the best way to accomplish such task? My draft seems working, but I hope there's more neat way. Thanks in advance for any help!
Kind regards,
Eric

Hi Econg,
You should be able to trigger your TTL output with the analog output by using the ao/StartTrigger as your trigger source on the counter task. You wouldn't have to have the extra Get Full Terminal Name.vi in your analog output task.
Here is an example using your modified code. You will have to change the cDAQ1/ao/StartTigger to *your device*/ao/StartTrigger, but it should then trigger the counter output at the exact time when the analog output starts.

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