Deepin Desktop Environment on Arch

I've finnaly made it work on my arch! :-)
Here are my PKGBUILD files and repo for most of the packages if anyone is interested.
First things first...
- I'm using "compiz-ubuntu" from unity-for-arch repo because "deepin-compiz" still needs old boost (1.53) version...
OF COURSE THE USUAL WARNINGS APPLY: IT WILL EAT YOUR CAT, HAMSTER... BLAHBLAH :-)
[home_metakcahura_arch-deepin_Arch_Extra]
SigLevel = Never
Server = http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/metakcahura:/arch-deepin/Arch_Extra/$arch
#Server = http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/metakcahura:/arch-deepin/Arch_Extra/$arch
And some obligatory screenshots... (those are "deepin-movie" player and deepin-terminal below... btw)
UPDATE: After contacting FaSheng (one of the developers on Deepin team) and showing him the current progress I made, he pointed out that I forgot to add python2 to makedepends and that's why those packages wouldn't build (startdde and deepin-desktop-environment). Now, they're all in OBS repo and available for testing.
Last edited by metak (2014-05-26 01:46:53)

rAX wrote:
Yeah, I figured it out. I just wanted you to know.
But After installing deepin-desktop-environment, I login from GDM and it freezes, nothing happen.
I haven't tried it with GDM so I don't know... can you try installing lightdm from this repo that has greeter set to lightdm-deepin-greeter? It works for me that way.
systemctl start lightdm and I get that fancy animation.
BTW many packages have been updated and rebuilt. OBS has some weird tricks and when it rebuilds package the service file automatically sets the version in PKGBUILD which is great in theory and works for most part, BUT the problem is when version doesn't change and package is just rebuilt, it doesn't do pkgrel bumps which would trigger update. Not that I know anyway... That's why you're getting those errors about downloaded packages. Removing the old package in /var/cache/pacman/pkg and re-downloading fixes this issue in most cases if the OBS mirrors are synced.
Last edited by metak (2014-05-27 00:26:01)

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