Delete_allowed property on a multi record block

Hello!
I need to modify the property "DELETE_ALLOWED" of
some records of a multi record block according to
some conditions (conditions on values of some items of the current record)
My problem is :
when I do that in a pre-record trigger
(set_block_property(block name, delete_allowed, property_false),
it change it for all records of the block even I make an IF condition on this!!!
my block is a detail block of a another block!
Any help please!!!

Delete_Allowed is a block property, so it is the same for all records in a block. But when you set it in a Pre-Record trigger (following some conditions) then you can or cannot delete only that record ...

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