Delivery in third party order

Do we create delivery document and post PGI in third party order?
If yes, why? If no, why?
Thr is lot of confusion with this matter. Only n only the people worked practically on TPO are requested to answer. I have searched a
lot on this which cant clear my confusion, so plz dont give me any link or material... (sorry if I sound arrogant)
Thx vry much.
_prashant

Hi Prashant,
In case of third party order the goods will be deliverd by your vendor to your customer directly. So you 'won't see' (physically) the goods delivered to your customer.
That's why I think there's no need for delivery notes from your side. I think it is the responsibility of your vendor who supplies the goods for your customer.
order (by your customer) > SO in SAP (you) > PR (automatically) > PO (from PR; to your vendor)
You can do GR when you get informartion (feedback) that that goods were deliverd (the goods arrived) to your customer but it is not necessary (you have other options in this method). If you do statistical GR the parts will be booked via 101 but you won't have stock , the system considers this that your customer received the goods at the time of GR (a little bit similar to PO with account assigt. cat. 'C' - the goods arrive through MVT 101 but they are consumed at the very moment [w/o movement type]).
I hope I'm not mistaken...
BR
Csaba

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I use Third-Party Order Processing for modeling the delivery by the vendor to the customer.
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Is it normal ? Do I miss some customizing?
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Check the billing relevant of Item category used in Sales order item . This should tell you what is happeneing in your scenario.
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Assuming it as TAS item category and BANS item category group and third party ordering process.
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F Order-related billing doc. - status according to invoice qty ( Bill after IV done with IV qty)
G Order-related billing of the delivery quantity ( Bill after GR with GR Qty)
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1.Can anyone explain me the term 'Statistical GR' in Third Party Scenario & also why & how we do it (also the Config settings required for the same).
2. In third Party Scenario we have order acknowledgement & confirmations so how we do this ??
Do we use the confirmations tab in the third party PO?? ( If yes wat we have to select - inbound delivery or rough GR)??
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The account assignment category X in the Customizing system of Purchasing determines whether a goods receipt can be posted for a third-party item. Here you define whether a goods receipt is possible, not allowed or compulsory.
If a goods receipt is possible, the GR indicator in the purchase order item is changeable. When you enter the purchase order, you decide if a goods receipt is to be posted or not.
You can only enter a goods receipt for a third-party order if the goods receipt indicator is set in the order item
we are specifying the account assignment category in the third party po as well as the itemcategory
so the effect of the gr will be to just like consumption
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Third-Party Order Fulfillment Process Scenario

Hello,
I would like to know if any of you have come across a use case where the Third-Party Order Fulfillment is Not based on the Supplier/Manufacturer shipping out the material directly But the Buyer (and in some cases even end User/customer) arranges this themselves. This is very common in International Trade where the Buyer/Business arranges the shipment themselves by using the services of a Freight Forwarder who Ships the material to the end user/customer after the Supplier/Manufacturer has made the Material available. In such cases the actual Shipment could take days or weeks from when Material is made ready by the Suppliers.
Currently the Third-Party Order Fulfillment Process assumes only one scenario and that is the Supplier will ship the material and inform their Buyer of Delivery. But in International Trade this is not the case and the Incoterms in the Purchase Order can be different to the Incoterms in the Sales order example in the PO the incoterms could be Ex-Works and in the SO CIF.
This leads to requirement of ASN and separate Inbound and Outbound Delivery and their separate Release in this Process as well.
These are not currently supported in the Third-Party Order Fulfillment process thus the Third-Party Order Fulfillment process in ByD has a very limited use in its current form.
If there are other users who have come across this as well then it would be nice to have your comments and possible workaround.
Best regards
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There is no standard SAP solution for this requirement.
You can trigger output from inbound delivery document to generate EDI output and send delivery information to customer.
You will require to define custom output type , partner profile and link with custom fucntion module.
FM should have logic to pick information from 3rd party sales order and inbound ASN and generate IDOC
Hope this solution will work for your requirement

Should Third party order items appear in mD04

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We create third party orders where material is directly shipped to our customer from our vendors, material does not come to our inventory, why such orders appear in MD04 , not only orders the PO created for such delivery also appears, we use planning strategy 40 for the material.
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Thanks in advance.
Anand Tripathi

They should not be, self answered

Reg Third party order processing.

Hi Gurus,
Please help me on the following questions.
1. In third party order processing how costing is updated?
2. How automatic purchase requisition will be generated in third party order processing?
3. Explain about Third party returns process step wise?
Thanks in advance,msi.
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Vamsi P

HI vamsi
Customize the third party sales in summary:
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and,   therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing      *--
In Details:----
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
      Order Type
      Sales org, distr chnl, div
      Enter
      Sold to
      PO #
      Material
      Quantity
      Enter
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SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
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SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
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      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
      Key in the PR number
      Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
      Execute
      Check the box next to the material
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      Click on "Assignments" button
      Click on "Process assignment"
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SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
      PO Number
      DN Number
      Batch tab , click on classification
      Serial Numbers tab
      Date of Production
      Flag Item OK
      Check, just in case
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SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
      Invoice Date
      Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
      Check the box
      Clilck on "Copy"
      Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
      Amount
      State the baseline date
      Simulate & Post
      Invoice Number
      *Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
      In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
      Go to "picking" tab
      State the qty and save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
      Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
      Enter
      Go to edit -> Log
      Save
reward if helpful.
Regards,
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How to configure purchase requesition in third party order

dear expert
can you explain how to configure purchase requesition in third party order.
vicky

Hi
Kindly check the below
Maintain the purchase requisition doc type in the third party order schedule line category in the t code VOV6 as below
Sched.line cat.        TP    Third party schedule
Delivery block
Movement Type                                        Item rel.f.dlv.
Movement type 1-step
Order type            NB    Purch Req                P.req.del.sched
Item category         5     Third-party
Acct.assig.cat.       X     All aux.acct.assgts.
Incompl.proced.       31    Sched.Line w/PurReq.
Req./Assembly
Availability
Prod.allocation
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Third Party order in MM

Hi
I like to know about Third party order process followed in Material Management module and what are the documents will be generated in this process .Explain me the process in detail ?
Thanks & Regards,
senthil.

Sales people will receive the order for which the company may carry the mateirals or not, in this case sales depaertment will enter the third party sales order which evantually create the third party Purchase requisition in the MM
now MM department will convert the reqs in the PO.
for this Po vendor has delivery address in the PO for custom
so vendor will deliver the Goods to customer location and invoice to your company, once you get the invoice from the vendor your sales dept will bill to the customer
so it customer pay and you pay to the vendor.
In third-party processing, you place a purchase order with a vendor to deliver goods or perform a service for a third party (for example, for a customer).
This means that your company does not deliver the material. You forward the order to an external vendor instead, who then sends the material directly to the customer and invoices you.
Third-party processing is carried out in the components SD (Sales and Distribution) and MM (Materials Management). By creating a third-party item in a sales order, purchase requisition, or purchase order, you can request that the vendor sends the goods directly to your customer. A document can consist of one or more third-party items.
Activities
Entering a Sales Order
You enter a third-party item in a sales order. The system automatically creates a purchase requisition item for each third-party item in the sales order.
Entering a Purchase Order to Vendor
You enter a purchase order with a third-party item with reference to the requisition third-party item.
Delivering Goods to Customer
The vendor supplies the goods to the customer. To document this step in the system, you can post a statistical goods receipt in Inventory Management. However, this is not compulsory.
Entering a Vendor Invoice
The vendor sends you an invoice. You enter the invoice receipt in Invoice Verification. The invoice receipt is necessary before a billing document can be created in SD.
Creating a Billing Document for the Customer
In SD, you create a billing document for the sales order. Depending on the Customizing settings (whether or not the billing-relevant indicator is set for the item category in SD), you draw up the billing document on the basis of the order quantity or on the basis of the quantity specified in the vendor invoice. If the customer is billed on the basis of the order quantity, you can create the billing document immediately after the sales order is entered. If the customer is billed on the basis of the quantity specified in the vendor invoice, you cannot create the billing document until the vendor invoice has been entered in Invoice Verification.
If you do not use the SD component, third-party orders can be handled completely in Materials Management. Here you enter a third-party order (or a purchase requisition) manually with the item category S and account assignment category X. In this procedure, the activities Entering a sales order and Creating a billing document for the customer are eliminated.

Cutomizing of Third Party Order

Hi All,
Can any help me in the process of customizing of Third Party Orders in SD and MM.
Regards

hi
in third party processing the material should have item category group as "BANS" and the item category should be "TAS" which results in schedule line category "CS" which should have "NB" as document type.
first create a vendor with "XK01"
should have maontained purchase info record "ME01"
should have maintained source list "ME11"
now create a sales order using VA01 which will create the purchase requissition automatically as soon as you save the order.
now goto VA02 and schedule lines data make a note of purchase requisition number and now create a purcjhase order with ref to PR
goto ME57 or ME58 create a purchase order
goto MIGO for goods recipt
goto MIRO for invoice receipt
now do VF01 to your customer
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/70/a7853478616434e10000009b38f83b/frameset.htm
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material – Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
Order Type
Sales org, distr chnl, div
Enter
Sold to
PO #
Material
Quantity
Enter
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
Order Number
Goto Item Overview
Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
Key in the PR number
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
Key in the PR number
Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
Execute
Check the box next to the material
Assign Automatically button
Click on "Assignments" button
Click on "Process assignment"
The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
PO Number
DN Number
Batch tab , click on classification
Serial Numbers tab
Date of Production
Flag Item OK
Check, just in case
Post
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
Invoice Date
Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
Check the box
Clilck on "Copy"
Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
Amount
State the baseline date
Simulate & Post
Invoice Number
*Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
Go to "picking" tab
State the qty and save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
Enter
Go to edit -> Log
Save
with regards to auto PO, tick the item category control at VOV7 for the field create automatic PO, and at schedule line category mention the material account assignment, maintain Purchase Order type, MM item category.

Third Party Order Billing Date

Dear Group,
Can someone assist me on the issue i am having on Third Party Orders. I have my system set up for Billing Relevenace = B (order related) so that i can create the billing document based onthe goods receipt. We are doing goods reciept with inbound delivery.
What i need to know is how can i have billing date updated? In the initial sales order the billing date is getting set based on the requested delivery date. If the goods are shipped early the billing document is not coming up on the billing due list till the billing date on the sales order and thus will not be billed until the original bill date.
How are others dealing with this issue?
Another question, if we want to pass freight charges on to customer invoice how can we do that based on the inbound delivery? I am adding freight to header delivery docuement for standard deliveries, but not able to get pricing procedure for inbound deliveris.
Thanks in advance.

Why would you do an inbound delivery and goods receipt on a 3rd party order? The point of 3rd party order is so you don't have to bring the inventory into the distribution center and process it in and out. Your billing should be based on the statistical goods receipt on the purchase order, which is when the factory should deliver the goods to the customer.

Order Related Intercompany Billing - Third Party Order

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I have configured intercompany billing that is based on the delivery and i have done that successfully, then I tried the third party process but after billing the third party order then the intercompany billing doesn't show up in the vf04, I have searched the SAP Notes especially SAP Notes 63459 but I really haven't got the clue how to do that clearly, if somebody can help me how to configure the intercompany billing for my requirement. I'm using SAP 5.0. I believe something missing in the copying control between sales document and billing document and also for the output type.Please help me very urgent.

hi,
Customizing settings are reported in notes 338922, 109254 and 308989.
During delivery creation the LIKP fields VKOIV/VTWIV/SPAIV/FKAIV/PIOIV/FKDIV/KUNIV must be filled in program FV50XFLK_LIKP_FUELLEN_IV_UML. If you checkt this table and not all of these fields are filled, you have the wrong the customizing. If the error is in your pruduction there is a report with which you can correct the relevant deliveries (of course after correcting your customizing): see note 176476.
Balazs

Third party order processing in Thailand

Hi,
does anyone know that for third party order processing in Thailand, where goods are shipped directly from the vendor to the customer, is it a legal requirement for Thailand to keep track of the in and out movement of the goods in SAP although the goods did not actually come in to the company before going to customer?
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please can anyone shed any lights on the above.
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Hi,
the third party process is as fillows:
1. Item category is TAS and schedule line should be CS
2. MM01 general item category group is BANS
3. item category determination should be in T_184 table ORBANSNIL+NIL=TAS
4. schedule line detrnination should be TAS+NIl=CS
5. process OR (VA01) and get the purchase requisition number from VA02
6. wrt PR create purchase order.
7. wrt PO verndor supplies stock directly to ur customer
8. vertually u do GR in MIGO, that goes to directly stock consumption because ur accounts have to be updated to that extent.(u dont do delivery and PGI, u receive GR that goes to consumption stock dierectly)
9. Vendor message comes to u as goods supplied that u make settings PO item views
10. basing on that you send the F2 to ur customer in VF01
10. vendor sends invoice to you.
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