Delta update in Info package

Hai all
what is the us of delta update in info package
I had intially loaded data from R/3 to psa using
(INFO PACKAGE->UPDATE-->Initilize delta process)
Then I had created to more records in r/3 side .
this time I scheduled using DELTA UPDATE I am getting 0 records
then what is the use of delta update
How can I get only delta records with out use of selection condition in DATA SELECTION of INFO PACKAGE
thanks
chaithanya

Hi,
You must specify "1" (day) in the lower limit of the delta maintenance.
I could not post my previous reply so here a new try :
Hi Chaithanya,
Let me explain how the generic delta mechanism with "date"-field works on the R/3 side:
When doing a delta extraction, the current date is stored in table ROOSGENDLT or ROOSGENDLM (anyway not so important).
This date will serve as a "from" date for the next delta extraction, though excluding the current value.
This in order to prevent duplicate records to be extracted during a second delta run on the same day.
Without extra settings, it will thus not be possible to extract two different delta's on date the same day.
Solution :
1. If you do not care about duplicate data (e.g. only field assignments with overwrite functionality in the transformation) goto RSO2 in change mode for your extractor and go into the generic delta maintenance screen. In the settings, enter "1" as safety interval lower limit. Like this, the delta processing mechanism will always subtract 1 day from the day stored as 'low-value'.
In your example this means that the initialisation will transfer 4 records, the delta will transfer 6 (although only 2 were added).
2. Use timestamps to determine delta (timestamp should be updated on savetime of record)
I hope this helps.
regards,
Olav

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Thanks for the update...apologies for multiple posts
One question as you said Parallel Inits
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