Dimension tables - parent child or hierarchical
The data I m dealing with is structured as follow.
A customer has many stores and each store has a POSSystem.
Customer
Stores
POSSystem
So now when I create Dimensions, will I create as:
TableName Cols
DimCustomer CustKey
DimStores StoreKey, CustKey
DimPOS POSKey, StoreKey, CustKey
Are these Hierarchical or Parent Child?
Now when I will create Fact table, will I have:
TableName Cols
Sample1: DimFactPOS CustKey,POSKey,StoreKey, #trans
OR
Sample2: DimFactPOS POSKey, #trans
If I do sample1, then why do I keep "StoreKey, CustKey" in DimPOS?
From your question, I can assume that you have beginners knowledge in Data modeling and Data Warehousing.
Let me elaborate it and dilute your confusion.
You have designed
Star Schema; basic intention for having star schema is to have normalized fact tables and de-normalized dimension tables.
Reason you are creating three dimension (i.e. DimCustomer, DimStores and DimPOS) here because you must have many-to-one referential integrity between each level. You can google about Hierarchies,
Levels and Level relationships to get insight information about it.
Keeping normalize data in dimensions and keeping keys in fact table is a business decision. To which level you want to show the aggregated data? You
need to define granuality level based on business needs.
As in star schema, there is 1 fact table related to different dimensions. If I sub divide your assumption, Sample 1 represents
Data Mart and Sample 2 represents Data Warehouse.
I hope it will help you in understanding basic concepts.
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hi,
i tried making "Dimension with Parent-Child Hierarchy" as described in your tutorials.
i finished with the admin tool and database changes and with no errors.
when trying to create a new answer, by only puting the hierarchy column in the answer.
the result show "no result" exist.
i am not sure what i am doing wrong. maybe you can point me to the problem?
thanks
Mirit.956850 wrote:
hi,
i tried making "Dimension with Parent-Child Hierarchy" as described in your tutorials.
i finished with the admin tool and database changes and with no errors.
when trying to create a new answer, by only puting the hierarchy column in the answer.
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What is the table that you created hierarchy on?
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2) Right-click on one of the nodes and choose Create Hierarchy Field from the context menu, or choose Source > Create Hierarchy Field from the main menu.
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I have 3 basic entities> servers, databases, and apps
example:
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database=PROD1,DEV1,TEST1,etc
apps=GL,FA,AP,AR,INV,HR,etc
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Which (forum) does this master-detail table design question belongs to or appropriate to post to?
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example:
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database=PROD1,DEV1,TEST1,etc
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Wish you a very Happy New Year !!!
I am facing a problem related to Database Trigger.
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UCD_CUST_CONSTORGCODE NOT NULL VARCHAR2(7)
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UCD_SICK_REASONCODE NOT NULL VARCHAR2(7)
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is diabled. As soon as constraint is enabled the trigger is
giving error
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see it
Sir, It is also working fine if the record is already exist in
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Is is not working in 2 cases :
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2. If we are changing the SickUnit_Code in Cust and correponding
record doesn't exist in Sick.
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yours sincerely
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Fn_Return boolean;
Tr_Exception Exception;
begin
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(:new.UCD_CUST_SICKUNITCODE,:new.SDF_CUST_BRCD,:new.CUST_CUSTID,I
NSERTING,UPDATING,DELETING);
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create or replace function fn_cust_sick
(SickUnitCode_in In Cust.Ucd_Cust_SickunitCode%Type,Brcd_in In
Sdf.Sdf_Brcd%Type,Custid_in In Cust.Cust_Custid%
Type,Inserting_in In Boolean ,Updating_in In Boolean,Deleting_in
In Boolean)
return boolean is
ddate date default '01-Jul-1955';
repdate ppar.ppar_reportdate%type default '31-Mar-2001';
viabcode sick.ucd_sick_viabilitycode%type default 'VI00000';
ReasonCD sick.ucd_sick_reasoncode%type default 'SK00000';
Ret_Flag Boolean := False;
begin
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begin
update sick
set CUST_SICK_SICKUNITCODE = SickUnitCode_in
where prdt_sick_reportdate = repdate and
cust_sick_brcd = Brcd_in and
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Ret_Flag := True;
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(PRDT_SICK_REPORTDATE,
CUST_SICK_BRCD,
CUST_SICK_CUSTID,
UCD_SICK_REASONCODE,
SICK_SINCEDATE,
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SUBO_SICK_SICKBORRCODE)
values
(repdate,
Brcd_in,
Custid_in,
reasoncd,
ddate,
viabcode,
SickUnitCode_in,
'SB00001');
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end if;
exception
when others then
dbms_output.put_line('Exception Update '|| Sqlerrm);
return(Ret_Flag);
end;
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begin
if To_Number(Substr(SickUnitCode_in,3)) > 0 then
insert into sick
(PRDT_SICK_REPORTDATE,
CUST_SICK_BRCD,
CUST_SICK_CUSTID,
UCD_SICK_REASONCODE,
SICK_SINCEDATE,
UCD_SICK_VIABILITYCODE,
CUST_SICK_SICKUNITCODE,
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values
(repdate,
Brcd_in,
Custid_in,
reasoncd,
ddate,
viabcode,
SickUnitCode_in,
'SB00001');
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Return(Ret_Flag);
exception
when others then
dbms_output.put_line('Exception Insert '|| Sqlerrm);
return(Ret_Flag);
end;
end if;
return(Ret_Flag);
exception
when Others then
dbms_output.put_line('Main Exception '|| Sqlerrm);
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Is it possible to have in a parent-child dimension multiple hierarchies? I want to have the same botom childs to aggregate to different parrents. example.
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HR1-parrent1
CHILD1
HR1-parrent2
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The concept of the Parent-Child (PC) hierarchy is completely different from the level-based hierarchy. Specifically the PC hierarchy expects a predefined / architected table with corresponding PC column/value structuring with or without attributes.
Short story even shorter it is not possible.
Longer...
In the RPD the BMM actually prevents you from adding a new logical level, child level, or parent level when you have selected that the logical dimension be a parent child logical dimension with Parent-Child hierarchy.
On another note...
Have you tried architecting/building your PC source table so that it represents the roll-up and bottom child-levels like you are seeking? That is, that same member in the child column more than once having a separate parent value. That should be doable.
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Are there any other reasons to not using parent-child heirarchies in ssas MD cubes???
TIA!
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Parent-Child Dimensions
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I am also facing the same issue when i try to replicate this practice. (Create Logical Dimensions with Parent Child Hierarchies -- http://www.oracle.com/webfolder/technetwork/tutorials/obe/fmw/bi/bi11115/biadmin11g_02/biadmin11g.htm#t9s3)
Odbc driver returned an error (SQLExecDirectW).
Error Details
Error Codes: OPR4ONWY:U9IM8TAC:OI2DL65P
State: HY000. Code: 10058. [NQODBC] [SQL_STATE: HY000] [nQSError: 10058] A general error has occurred. [nQSError: 43113] Message returned from OBIS. [nQSError: 43119] Query Failed: [nQSError: 22056] To use hierarchical functions, you need to associate a Closure Table with Logical Table Source 'LTS1 Sales Rep'. (HY000)
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