Discount Base Amount

Good day all
When I do postings via FB01 the discount base amount gets calculated automatically, which is correct. (Post key 40 and 31, Doc Type AB).
When payroll does their postings to FI, to the vendor account, the discount base amount does not get calculated at all (using the same posting keys and doc type).
Where do I fix this and how?
I will really appreciate all your help on this.
Kind Regards
Louise.

Hi Ashok
Thank you very much for your prompt reply.
Let me try to explain. Payroll deducts amounts from employees, ex. housing, garnishee's etc. Those deducted amounts are send to FI to the relevant Vendor account. AP will then pay the vendor one global amount for all the amounts deducted from the different employees.
Ex. Empl 1 - deducts R50 for Attorney ABC (from payroll)
Empl 2 - deducts R100 fro Attorney ABS (From payroll)
Payroll executes program RPCIPE00 that creates one document in FI.
CT's Attorney ABC and DT's the payroll clearing account. FI-AP will then pay Attorney ABC via F110 on behalf of the employees.
Sometimes the business will have an agreement with these type of vendors to take a discount if paid early.
Hope this helps.
Louise.

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