Execution Hierarchy of a Trigger at RunTime

Hello Everybody,
Does anybody know, how to get to know what is the execution hierarchy of a given trigger at run time ?
What is the built-in or any work around ?
John

Hierarchy is based on how and what triggers you are using, it can be many scenarious and there is no single answer. The best way for you to find, what fires after what on your form is to put debug messages with trigger name, trigger item/block in each trigger and see in what order messages get displayed at run time.

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