Files server migration with deduplication

Dear All,
I need to migrate the FTP server from Windows Server 2003 Web Edition to Windows server 2012R2 Std.
The purpose of this migration is saving disk space. (Testing dedup result is 80%)
I'm trying to setup a migration plan but I have doubt regarding files/folders copy from the old server to the new one.
For the moment the current server has a data disk of 170GB, on the new server I would like to have a disk of 50GB. How to perform data copy ?
Is it possible to perform a first copy with Robocopy (1 day before) for example and the D day purge deleted files/folders and copy new one ? (I don't think it's possible because the file will not be the same (pointer vs real file)).
Also because disks are not the same I will have to copy data in several times. Is it not an issue to manually execute Dedup job when copying ?
Does anyone have experience with this kind of migration ?
Regards,
Vincent

Are you going physical to physical or virtual to physical or virtual to virtual? Say your going virtual to virtual, you can umount the virtual volume and shift it to the new VM and setup your FTP server to point to the volume. But the downside to going virtual
with dedupe is you have to pretty much thick provision your virtual hard disk. Dedupe will touch every block in the virtual disk causing it to fully provision. If you do scheduled SAN snapshots you have to be cautious about this change. I also recommend striping
short names and disabling 8.3 naming. The beauty is if you are doing domain permissions for ACL's on the filesystem then you do not have to apply them to the volume. You just have to rebuild shares and you can apply everyone access to those. But if they were
local machine ACL's like a machine on a workgroup you would have to rebuild them.
If it's physical to physical you have similar options if you utilize a shared SAN for your storage.
I've done both of these options and downtime was minimal something like 5 to 15 minutes. That being said I'd still recommend Robocopy if you could do it.

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File server migration with Offline files involved

Hi,
We are planning a file server migration in following weeks.
This morning, our customer came with the good old "Ow, and I just thought about something else"
Here's the scenario :
-They are using 1 network drive
-That network drive is made offline available for all laptop users
-Those users are spread out in several country's. No VPN connection
-They are working for months on their offline network drive, right in the middle of the wood, no internet connection, it was already short for them to find power supply for their laptop ...
...nevermind
-The day they come back to the office, the file server to which points the network drives will be offline.
Now the 1 Million question : What happens with their "dirty" files ?
yep exactly. those they changed 6 months ago, have no clue about if you ask them but certainly will the day I will clear the damn cache.
My first analysis :
-The new file server will have another name, no alias or re-using the old name is possible (the customer don't want to)
-I can't tell to those laptops "hey for that offline cache, please use this new network drive"
So :
>> Those users have to identify manually files they changed while being offline, copy them locally on their machine and work that way the time they come back to the main office.
>> When they finally show up, clear the cache, offline the new network drive and replace file copied locally
>> If no internet connexion available in the branch office, let them work locally, it's still better than this hybrid-non-sense 6month offline folder "solution". If internet connexion is mainly available remotely, propose some Citrix/View/RDS
Setup which is, for me, a more professional looking solution
Someone has another (better?) idea/solution ?

Hi,
I suggest you ask users to collect their laptop to internet, then start offline files synchronization on the old file server. After that, use
Robocopy to copy the date from the old server to the new server. As the offline files cache cannot be recognized by the new file server, so we need to synchronize data first.
If the older server cannot be enabled, as you mentioned, you might need to ask users to copy their changed files to the new file servers.
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Mandy
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File Server Migration Source and Target Data Validation

Does anyone know of a power shell script/CLI command or some other way to verify source and target data after a file server migration? I want to make sure that the shares that are migrated from the source and target are an exact match. Thank
you.

Hi,
An example is provided in this article:
http://blogs.technet.com/b/heyscriptingguy/archive/2011/10/08/easily-compare-two-folders-by-using-powershell.aspx
$fso = Get-ChildItem -Recurse -path C:\fso
$fsoBU = Get-ChildItem -Recurse -path C:\fso_BackUp
Compare-Object -ReferenceObject $fso -DifferenceObject $fsoBU
And actually Robocopy could also do this job with /L and /log:file parameter.
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Error - Applications File Server connection with the node FNDFS_WIN2000.

ERROR:
An error occurred while attempting to establish an Applications File Server connection with the node FNDFS_WIN2000. There may be a network configuration problem, or the TNS listener on node FNDFS_WIN2000 may not be running. Please contact your system administrator.
When I try to submit concurrent request error occured which I mentioned above.
Platform:Windows2000 server
Apps Version:11.5.3 Vision
Db version:8.1.6.0.0
Environment:Windows2000 server(Stand aloe).
I have one listener in database, I am sending you to my tns and listener files.
DB listener and tns file.
# LISTENER.ORA Network Configuration File: J:\oracle\visdb\8.1.6\NETWORK\ADMIN\listener.ora
# Generated by Oracle configuration tools.
SID_LIST_VIS =
(SID_DESC =
(SID_NAME = VIS)
#(ORACLE_HOME = J:\oracle\visdb\8.1.6)
SID_LIST_VIS =
(SID_LIST =
( SID_DESC = ( SID_NAME = FNDFS )
( ORACLE_HOME = J:\oracle\visora\8.0.6 )
( PROGRAM = J:\oracle\visappl\fnd\11.5.0\bin\fndfs.exe )
( envs='EPC_DISABLED=TRUE,NLS_LANG=AMERICAN_AMERICA.WE8ISO8859P1' )
STARTUP_WAIT_TIME_APPS_VIS = 0
CONNECT_TIMEOUT_APPS_VIS = 10
TRACE_LEVEL_APPS_VIS = OFF
LOG_DIRECTORY_APPS_VIS = J:\oracle\visora\8.0.6\net80\admin
LOG_FILE_APPS_VIS = APPS_VIS
TRACE_DIRECTORY_APPS_VIS = J:\oracle\visora\8.0.6\net80\admin
TRACE_FILE_APPS_VIS = APPS_VIS
VIS =
(DESCRIPTION =
(ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = win2000)(PORT = 1521))
# TNSNAMES.ORA Network Configuration File: J:\oracle\visdb\8.1.6\NETWORK\ADMIN\tnsnames.ora
# Generated by Oracle configuration tools.
VIS =
(DESCRIPTION =
(ADDRESS_LIST =
(ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = win2000)(PORT = 1521))
(CONNECT_DATA =
(SID = vis)
Client Site tns and listner.
# TNSNAMES.ORA FOR APPLICATIONS
# Created by Rapid Install
# Net8 definition for the database
VIS =
(DESCRIPTION =
(ADDRESS_LIST =
(ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = win2000)(PORT = 1521))
(CONNECT_DATA =
(SID = VIS)
FNDFS_WIN2000 = (DESCRIPTION=
(ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=win2000)(PORT=1523))
(CONNECT_DATA=(SID=FNDFS))
Rep60_VIS,Rep60_VIS.world=(ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=win2000.apps.com)(PORT=7002))
# LISTENER.ORA FOR APPLICATIONS
# Created by Rapid Install
# Net8 definition for FNDFS listener
SID_LIST_VIS =
(SID_LIST =
( SID_DESC = ( SID_NAME = FNDFS )
( ORACLE_HOME = J:\oracle\visora\8.0.6 )
( PROGRAM = J:\oracle\visappl\fnd\11.5.0\bin\fndfs.exe )
( envs='EPC_DISABLED=TRUE,NLS_LANG=AMERICAN_AMERICA.WE8ISO8859P1' )
STARTUP_WAIT_TIME_APPS_VIS = 0
CONNECT_TIMEOUT_APPS_VIS = 10
TRACE_LEVEL_APPS_VIS = OFF
LOG_DIRECTORY_APPS_VIS = J:\oracle\visora\8.0.6\net80\admin
LOG_FILE_APPS_VIS = APPS_VIS
TRACE_DIRECTORY_APPS_VIS = J:\oracle\visora\8.0.6\net80\admin
TRACE_FILE_APPS_VIS = APPS_VIS
Any help I appreciate in advance, I have been working on this issue since one week.
Thanks,
Kindest Regards
Zeeshan Siddiqui

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File Server Migration from 2008 Standard to 2012 Standard accross different subnet

Hi
Im going to migrate File server from Windows 2008 Standard server to Windows 2012 Standard . Source and Destination Servers are on different subnets . According to this
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj863566.aspx I cannot use Server migrations tool in-built into 2012 . Im not sure if I can use file server migration toolkit 1.2?.
Also my Domain controllers are mixture of Windows 2003, 2008 , 2008 R2 and I've upgraded the schema level to 2012 R2 . Is there anything else I need to be aware of ?
Can anyone please recommended best way to go about doing this migration . Is file server migration toolkit 1.2 is compatible ? .
Only reason I don't want to use Robocopy to this is because If I miss a small setting etc then I will face unwanted downtime.
I presume Migration toolkit will also create all the Quotas etc on the destination server .
Thanks
mumtaz

Hi mumtaz,
We could use file server migration toolkit 1.2 to migrate file server between the two subnets. In order to maintain security settings after the migration, please ensure the security of files and folders after they are migrated to a target file server, the File
Server Migration Wizard applies permissions that are the same as or more restrictive than they were on the source files and folders, depending on the option you select.
In the meantime, quota cannot migrate by this tool but we can export and import the quota using dirquota command. Export the templates as xml and then import to new server:
dirquota template export /file:C:\test.xml
dirquota template import /file:C:\test.xml
For more detailed information, please see:
Template Export and Import Scenarios
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc730873(WS.10).aspx
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Applications File Server connection with the node FNDFS_PROR

I run the report and workflow sent me a link refer to the report output. However, I receive the following link after I click the link.
What is it?
An error occurred while attempting to establish an Applications File Server connection with the node FNDFS_PRORSGSDB. There may be a network configuration problem, or the TNS listener on node FNDFS_PRORSGSDB may not be running. Please contact your system administrator.
Thanks,
Amy

Hi Amy,
I run the report and workflow sent me a link refer to the report output. However, I receive the following link after I click the link.Was it working before? Any recent changes in the system? Whats your APPS and DB version.
An error occurred while attempting to establish an Applications File Server connection with the node FNDFS_PRORSGSDB. There may be a network configuration problem, or the TNS listener on node FNDFS_PRORSGSDB may not be running. Please contact your system administrator.As preliminary checks do the following,
1. Check the system profiles RRA: Service Prefix, SITE value should be FNDFS or blank
2. Run "Report Review Agent Setup Test" and see if it returns any errors.
[Oracle Application Object Library Report Review Agent Setup Test|https://metalink2.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/ml2_documents.showDocument?p_database_id=NOT&p_id=200358.1]
3. Let us know the query output
SQL> select CONCURRENT_QUEUE_NAME
from FND_CONCURRENT_QUEUES
where CONCURRENT_QUEUE_NAME like 'FND%';
Thanks,
Anchorage :)

File Server Migration - For ORG A Forest to ORG B Forest ( Need to create and Map Security Group automatically on new Migrated Folders - Please Help

I have two forest With Trust works Fine .
I have file server in ORG – A ( Forest ) with 2003 R2 Standard
I have a File server in ORG - B ( Forest ) With Windows server 2012 ( New Server for Migration )
I have 1000 + folders with each different permission sets on ORG-A. We are using Security groups for providing permission on the share Folders on ORG A
I need to Migrate all the folders from ORG – A to ORG – B.
I am looking for an automated method of creating Security Groups on AD during the Migration, Once the Migration is Done, I can add the required users to the security groups manually.
Example.
Folder 1 on ORG – A has Security Group Called SEC-FOLDER1-ORGA
I need an automated method of Copying the files to ORG – B and Creating a new security Groups on ORG –B Forest with the same permission on parent and child Folders. I shall Add the users manually to the Group.
Output Looks Like
Folder 1 on ORG – B has Permission called SEC-FOLDER1-ORGB ( New Security Group )
Also I need a summarized report of security Group Mapping, Example – Which security Group on ORGA is mapped with Security Group Of ORGB

Hi,
I think you can try ADMT to migrate your user group to target domain/forest first. Once user groups are migrated, you can use Robocopy to copy files with permission - that permission will continue be recognized in new domain as you migrated already.
Migrate Universal Groups
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc974367(v=ws.10).aspx
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Cluster File Server Migration

Dears,
I have my source cluster based on WIndows 2008 R2 with SP1, and my new target cluster is Windows 2012 R2.
when I run the copy wizard it validate if I can migrate the file server, however, it is giving me those in yellow mark:
File Server IP Address is not eligible to be copied. (Failed to read 'EnableDhcp' property)
FileServer01 is not eligible to be copied.
Is this normal?
How to continue migrating file server role?

Hi Jean M,
Could you try to manually configure the IPs by referring to the previous 2008 R2 node, then and bring the new file-servers online?
More related information:
Best practices for migration of cluster windows 2008 R2 / 2012 - As melhores Praticas para migrar um Cluster de Windows 2008 para Windows 2012
http://blogs.technet.com/b/hugofe/archive/2012/12/06/best-practices-for-migration-of-cluster-windows-2008-r2-2012-as-melhores-praticas-para-migrar-um-cluster-de-windows-2008-para-windows-2012.aspx
How to Move Highly Available (Clustered) VMs to Windows Server 2012 with the Cluster Migration Wizard
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/clustering/archive/2012/06/25/10323434.aspx
Migration Paths for Migrating to a Failover Cluster Running Windows Server 2012 R2
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn530781.aspx
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File Server Migration NTFS Permissions cleanup

Hello,
I have migrated a file server from Domain1.com to Domain2.com, using the lates ADMT tool the security translation that i have choosen in the wizard is Replace so I can get the same users on domain2.com to access the resources.
however some users are disabled in Domain1.com that I haven't migrated them so the wizard was unable to translate them and they are retained as [email protected]
to get rid of those i started the Security Translation Wizard with the option remove to clean up and delete Domain1.com but unfortunatly it didn't delete those entries and they are still there.
Any Idea about a script removes entries based only on the domain name *@domain1.com or Domain1\*
Thanks!

Hi,
You can run the command below to remove granted permissions:
icacls <Directory> /remove:g <Sid>
Icacls
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc753525.aspx
Script to Remove "Authenticated Users" Permissions on C Drive
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/5d257f61-6c60-4435-bdc5-699df09c0a5f/script-to-remove-authenticated-users-permissions-on-c-drive?forum=winserverpowershell
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How can I make a file server sync with a laptop when it connectsSOLVED

Ok, first let me say that I looked on the Internet for this but didn't find what I was looking for. I'm going to be setting up a simple file server for my in laws soon...they use windows so I'll be using samba on the server side.
They have 3 computers and want to be able to have all there files stored in one central place so they can share them easily and also have them backed up at the same time. They have 2 desktops and one laptop.
The desktops are not a big deal to sync with the server because they are on all the time and I can just use a cron job or something. Then problem is the laptop..
What can I do to make the laptop automatically sync when it gets on the network?
The catch is this needs to be ran from the server side so they have a "hands free" experience or whatever. If you know a way for the laptop to do this in the background I guess that would work too.
I know this is probably a very simple task but so far everything I find the user would have to manually start the sync.
Thanks in advance for you help!
Last edited by jonrd (2008-07-27 04:28:57)

Is it necessary that all the files are on the local hard disks? In the case of the laptop I could understand this if the laptop is also used outside the network, but the desktops should stay in place, no?
It could be as easy as to make a shortcut on all the computers to the samba-share and tell the inlaws that they have to use the samba-share to store their (shared) files.
You are correct about this but I doubt they would remember to use this all the time so I want to sync the folders just in case.
Assuming the laptop is always going to be in the same IP address when it connects to the network (which is unlikely in default configurations), you could create a script that checks for the existence of the machine on the network then perform a sync. I had a script written in Python somewhere that would check to make sure the server side was up and run unison, but it could be modified to check for the laptop and copy files. Let me know if that's something you're interested in and I can post it for you.
This sounds like what I'm looking for. Also I wander If it could be done by NetBIOS name instead of ip address? This way It wouldn't matter.
The script sounds like what I'm looking for though
Thanks for the help!

Details on Microsoft File Server Migration Toolkit 1.2

We are planning to move our file server from a Server 2008 cluster (running on an outdated SAN) to a Server 2008 R2 cluster attached to a new SAN.
The FSMT looks like the best way to accomplish this, but I have a few questions.
1. The docs don't mention 2008 R2 in any functional descriptions, but the requirements on the download link at http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=10268 mention
2008 R2. Does this version of the tool work with 2008 R2? If so, are there any restrictions or features that are unavailable?
2. The existing file servers are old and tend to get slowed down periodically by a combination of heavy use, security software, and automated vulnerability scans. The docs do mention graceful rollback, but is there any mechanism for retrying copies due to
slow/dropped connections?
3. We cannot have a single point of failure, so DFS will have to be clustered. Can the DFS root server run on the same cluster as the source or target file servers? Target would be preferable since we intend to decommission the source cluster. (We are in
a restricted environment where adding machines takes a great deal of time.)

I havent tried your scenario with FSMT.
Do you have a DFS Namespace that you use today for the access?
Im not certain that FSMT can setup a DFS Consolidation namespace in a Cluster, but it is possible by hand anyway.
Microsoft KB829885 specifies how to setup a DFS Consolidation namespace in a Windows 2003 Cluster, the process for a single node is the same so I guess the same is true for cluster setups.
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(question) File Server Migration ability ?

Hi, All
I started to migrate my 2003 File server to a new 2012 File server
I used the recommended scenario (RoboCopy) but because the current server is in another vLAN so it's very slow
My friend told me that I can attach the new storage to the current 2003 server and copy it, it'll be faster
now my question by copying it like this, shall the permission will be effected
(if I copied the data from one drive to another using this command robocopy /E //COPY:DATSOU /MIR /log+:C:\CopoReportLog.txt /xo /fft ) shall it get the right permission
Thanks

Hi,
You can use the robocopy command to copy data and security permissions to a storage then attach the storage to the new server. But the robocopy does not do aprovide local group migration. It will migrate the permissions to the new server, but they will show
up as SIDs without the local groups. You’d create the local groups, then you'd use SubInACLs to substitue the old SIDs for the new Group names.
The command line would look like this:
SubInAcl /subdirectories C:\SomeDirectory /Replace=SomeUglyLookingSID=NewServer\NewGroup
SubInACL (SubInACL.exe)
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=23510
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Mandy
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Tectra A10 - writing to file server ends with BSOD

Hi
I have a brand new Tectra A10 that I have used the recovery disk to restore the machine to XP Pro - I have done this process many times before.
I have addred the machine to our Domain but whenever I try to write to our file server (Windows Server 2008) I get the blue screen.
Writing to an old 32 bit Server is fine.
I have made sure that the NIC Card driver is upto date.
Any Ideas
Thanks
Lew

Hi buddy,
I personally believe, that everything is ok with your notebook and its related to server or network this BSOD.
I mean you can write to a 32bit server properly and I believe other network connections work fine so its a problem of the new server.
As Barrie wrote, if you use the notebook in your company ask the local network administrator. Maybe its a known issue.

MAC, CS2: File server migration problem/Missing Link/auto remap behavior.

Hi,
I'm just leaving a quite "trace" in case someone else get in similar problems and do a search of the forum, it's very technical and i'm also missing some information, so i wont make a special effort to make it easier to understand.
We did a migration of a project from a OSX desktop station used as a server to a real OSX server (same root volume name, exact replication of the folders). Many of links in the indesign documents (not all) are missing.
After trying a few things, including inspecting the links in a .inx export, i have discovered that the remapping mecanism (when a link is missing) doesnt work the same depending of the OSX version (maybe related to afp version?) and also depending of the Indesign version used.
One of the case we have is a filepath that is encoded (in the inx file) using a "~sep~" in replacement of "_" (underscore) (documented, but very briefly in the inx specs documentation). It looks like the file was imported from a folder that was named "01_test" by exemple and later renamed "01-test" without doing the update in the indesign files.
On our "old" serveur, the link with such encoded char is resolved without any error/warning (just like "_" would be the same as "-"), but on our new serveur the link are reported as missing. I did the same test using CS3 and the links are reported as missing using the old and new serveur.
The new behavior of CS3 is better as it report adequately the change in filename (containing "-" instead of "_") instead of having a automatic remap (not working the same way accross different version of OSX) and also no commiting the change to the document (the remapping is not stored with the resolved link, the original link with "~sep~" is kept. One last odd behavior is that if we relink one path in a document, all the other links are resolved (on the new server) at document opening.. but if we unmount/remount the volume (restart indesign?), the link are still missing...
I'm missing some information on the expected behavior of indesing missing link automatic correction, also related to afp version (spotlight indexing could be involved??).
Currently i'm doing a log output of all the missing link to have a complete picture of the problem (in case the are other problems not related to the "_" and "-" in path name).
Eric

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In regards to your question, the permissions on the
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File server migration software, what is out there?

I'll be migrating about 9Tb of files from 10 file servers from the 'old' domain where we have limited rights to our new domain where we will be having to re-create (rather than migrate) users and security groups. We cannot set up a two way trust between
the domains. (one way may be possible).
The files are user shares, department shares and (unfortunately) PST files.
I was wondering if someone has experience or know about software that could help with this. I've found the
http://www.varonis.com/products/data-transport-engine/ Varonis data transport engine which seems to do what I need. (although I'm not sure if a trust is needed or not).
What would seem especially important is some functionality that 'maps' security groups form the source domain to the target domain groups.
I was hoping you might know of other tools that do the same thing? Any experience with a similar challenge?
Regards, Paul www.servercare.nl

Hi,
From the description, you would like to migrate data to a server in a different domain
with permission.
Copy files with permission is easy - robocopy could help with using /copyall. However the copied permissions will not be recognized as it is a different domain.
Thus if data need to be copied with permission, which means the same users and groups in domainA should be recognized in domainB. This leads us using ADMT (Active Directory Migration Tool) to do the user/group migration first.
However you need a Trust between the 2 domains to do the ADMT. If "limited rights" stopped you from creating a one-way trust (source domain trusts the target domain), you may not able to copy files with permissions.
FYI:
ADMT Guide: Migrating and Restructuring Active Directory Domains
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc974332(v=ws.10).aspx
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