Fluid grid pink columns gone

This is probably a really simple question but....
I have been creating my first fluid grid layout. There were nice, helpful pink columns - but not any more. I can't find a way to get them back. Guess I have "hot keyed" something off ... can somebody tell me what!
thanks
Edward

If you navigate to View - Visual Aids, you can see if Fluid Grid Layout Guides is checked or not.

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Just some quick background. I did HTML from 1994 through about five years ago by hand in vi on *nix systems. I learned HTML through 4.01, and never bothered with XHTML at all. I learned CSS through most of CSS2. The CSS3 and HTML5 stuff is all new to me, but it can't be that hard. I'm not exactly a novice in JS (I've done a fair bit of AJAX programming), but it's not even close to my primary language (I'm a Perl guy).
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Margins, Padding, no effect in "multiple columns" Fluid Grid Layout

Mac Pro
Adobe DW CS6
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          -webkit-column-gap: normal;
          -webkit-column-rule: 2px outset #000000;
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Indent first line in paragraph works well, wrapping image properly, and column flow smooth.
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The only template files I changed were the main css that I specify when creating a new FG layout.
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At first I thought it was maybe having added margins to some items breaking the size, but I have removed these and the columns have not come back.
Any suggestions?

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Nancy O.

Fluid grid website is showing up as two-columns even on very large monitors in IE10

In Firefox and Chrome, the website looks and functions just fine. However, viewing on the same large monitors in Internet Explorer, the webpages are broken up into two columns. To see what I mean, the site is www.PixelHallPress.com

Yes, I use code view and I put the tags you suggested exactly where you had suggested. No, I am not a coder, but I'm pretty good at following directions. Yes, I've been known to make mistakes. Most of the time it's because I know a little code, but not enough to keep myself from getting into trouble (or help get out of it).
The thing is that this website has been behaving just fine for about a year. It works fine in other browsers. IE is the only problem. I tried applying the template from two earlier versions that I know worked previously, and they too are having the display problem in IE
I'm no longer getting that error code, by the way. However, when I place <body> then </body> tags I get an error message that I have an unbalanced body tag. I wonder if the fluid grid template creates its own version of a body tag.
One variable: The host has migrated the site to a new server. Could this have introduced some errors?
I appreciate your advice. Thanks, Sally

Building fluid grid site - what's the best way to add a page?

I've got a one page fluid grid site going and I think I've learned enough to start adding pages. Do I use my primary css file as the file to be associated with subsequent pages? I tried to use a new css in a second page, and perhaps my mistake was that I used some classes and id's from the home page on the second page (which is to be expected as it inherits some of the design). For whatever reason, that led to the second page 'breaking' in a couple of places and I couldn't find the problem.
So I deleted it!
I'd like to begin again and start adding pages. In the creation stage, right after page definition, where it asks about css and copying over the two files (boilerplate and the js script), should I just use my existing css? When I copied over the two files, I was able to delete them and repoint the new page to the moved files (in a scripts folder and css folder).
OR
Should I create the page along with new css and just NOT use the same-named classes and id's?
Last question, when bringing up code navigator on a design page, are the css pages listed in alphabetical order or by cascade? The new page seemed to have them in alpha order rather than cascade order. They were listed in alpha, despite the fact that they were defined in the page in order of cascade.
Thanks all.

Hi Toskey,
My feelings about the Fluid Grid feature in Dreamweaver is far more
negative than David's. First, let's look at the response.js script that
simulates responsive behavior in old browsers. It can be destabilizing
in IE8 and under (causing lockups) and is, in my opinion, a waste of
time. Each month that goes by, IE8 and under become less and less
relevant and giving them a traditional fixed-width or mini-width look is
all one needs to do.
The grid approach itself, at the core of the system, is flawed and, at
best, a transitional approach as CSS has added a columns module. In
about 2 years time, the concept of grids will be native to most browsers
and how you deal with older browsers will become a matter of progressive
enhancement. That is, allow older browsers to display a conventional
type of layout while newer browsers use the newer features.
Responsive design depends on designers being able to react and change as
the CSS brainiacs of the world have regularly scheduled eureka moments
about better ways to deploy media queries. So Adobe would need to be
ready and willing (and able) to issue updates to the Fluid Grid system
on a need-to-update basis. This will never happen.
As for flexibility and practicality, and real-world application, get a
Tablet, Smartphone, and desktop computer cranked up. Now load Adobe's
home page and tell me how it reacts/responds:
1. Smartphone portrait mode
2. Smartphone landscape mode
3. Tablet portrait mode
4. Tablet landscape mode
5. In a desktop browser as you make window narrow and wide
Now load up the PVII home page (www.projectseven.com) and perform the
same tests in the same devices. How much importance you place on certain
things will dictate to you what kind of approach to take.
We think our approach is currently the most bulletproof in the world and
if something comes to our attention 2 weeks from now that indicates
there is an even better way, or if another device takes the world by
storm and needs a new query, we will issue an update ASAP.
Good luck and happy hunting.
Al Sparber - PVII

How can I convert my web page from a fixed width layout to a fluid grid layout?

I'm taking a web design class (I'm using Dreamweaver CS6, btw) wherein the professor started us out building our websites in a fixed width layout but now I want to change my site into a fluid grid layout. My "site" so far is just one long page, and I've already designed it with fluid grid adjustments in mind (most things are centered in the layout) so it shouldn't need excessive tweaking.
Is there a way to duplicate the site folder that holds my first page, re-open a new document in fluid, then copy the code in and tweak the width parameters for the different layouts?
Did I just answer my own question? Help - I am new at this!!
Thanks all,
KC

Herbert2001 wrote:
A bit off-topic, but Osgood: have you ever used SASS or LESS? When you are building your own grid systems it can save you a tremendous amount of time, and it's a lot of fun.
Take the following simple example - it generates all the 23 css classes automatically for a 12 grid system. And simply changing one variable allows you to create and calculate any number of columns!
//variables
$desktop: 1025px;
$large-columns: 12;
@media only screen and (min-width: $desktop) {
     //regular grid span classes
    @for $i from 1 through $large-columns {
        .span-large-#{$i} {
            width: percentage($i/$large-columns);
     // push classes
    @for $i from 1 through (($large-columns)-1) {
        .push-large-#{$i} {
            margin-left: percentage($i/$large-columns);
No, not explored it yet, and may never....I don't know. I don't really make much money out of web design. It's becoming more and more difficult to find the desire to learn new techniques when the opportunities aren't really there to put them into practice on as regular basis as I would like. I've got a very good handle on css, php, html, jQuery - I'm not sure I want to add another layer at the moment, given I'm never quite sure how long I will continue to 'bang my head against the wall' . I'm getting to the stage where I keep asking myself do I really need the problems associated with learning new stuff to the point of being comfortable with it if the financial rewards at the end don't equate to the efforts of learning it.
I don't really enjoy web development if truth is known. I come from a Graphic Design background which I much prefer but somehow got side tracked and pushed in this direction and there's no way back now, lol. Whilst I concede Web Development is much more exciting its also 100 times more complex/difficult and the skills needed are considerably more.
Your example looks interesting and I should think I could pick it up reasonably easily given I work with php which uses variables on a similar basis.

Problems with fluid grid layout live site only showing phone view in Chrome and Firefox Feb 2015

Hi all,
I have done a complex fluid grid layout using DW 2014 CC. The site has now gone live on the web masters server setup.
Up until now the layout of the site has been working fine and responding to screen size.
Early this morning in the USA the site stopped working. The layout for some users, not all, is only showing the phone view, and takes a long time to load.
This is happening in Chrome and Firefox, but IE is displaying the site properly.
So it looks like the CSS media queries are not working on all browsers.
I am using BC for the test site, and one user having this problem can see that version of the site OK.
I noticed that Chrome has done some updates recently Chrome Releases
Has anyone else come across this problem with Chrome and Firefox with their responsive layouts?
Thanks for any help given.

Hi Ben,
Yes, thanks for this link. The Travel Health Website is one of ours, hosted on BC, and no reported problems so far. We also have another large BC website with ga code in it and users are not reporting problems with it. The Headless Way
However the problem website is hosted elsewhere on a different platform to BC. We have been developing it for three months now, and no problems so far until yesterday. The problem of the site taking ages to load, and timing out seems to be happening with about 10% of users in the USA. http://www.harrisonassessments.com/
The web developer found a user in NZ who was experiencing the slow display problem. They looked at the site with Chrome, Firefox and IE. The site would only display on IE. When the developer removed the google analytics code, the site displayed fine on all browsers for the NZ user. We are waiting for users in the USA to wake up and test the site.
So the problem definitely is related to the ga code and the responsive layout that was done by me in DW2014.1 fluid grid layout. So the related problem of DW2014.1 not being able to load htm files with ga code in them looks to be a good clue to what is going on here.
As there was a bug report for DW2014.1 and google analytics code made in the other thread, I would be interested to know if that was ever solved.
It is interesting that you are pushing Bootstrap and Foundation on me. (Big square websites here I come! lol)
I wonder if DW is going to persist with fluid grid layout then? I certainly hope so, as I have spent 12 months blood sweat and tears learning how to do it in DW.

More insight on divs with fluid grids please!

Help me come further up the CS6 fluid grid learning curve, please!
I'm adapting an exiting site to fluid grids. After creating the template for the primary pages, I have two major issues at this point(yeah, only two, SO FAR).
1- I have a vertically expanding menu in the first layout div. For tablets, I want to preserve the left grid column space for the menu, regardless of its length, and all other content would use just the right gid columns. But when the menu happens to be short, the "excess" content floats left under the menu grid columns. How can I force main page content to only occupy the right grid columns, regardless of the length of the menu?
As a side point to the menu, what happens when I try to put this (or the footer) all back in an SSI, as it originally was?
2 - I've seen the note about no support for nested layout divs. Thru trial and error, I'm still trying to figure out just what this means. Pragmatically, what is the greater implication of this? Can format be controlled only on fluid grid layout divs? Can't I have divs inside of a grid layout div to control image palcement around the text for instance? I've had hit=n-miss experience with this so far.
Can anybody point me to a more in-depth discussion on this topic?
Sorry if this ol' dog seems like he's learning div layout all over again. But hey! That IS how it feels!
Thanks for any education, or pointers to such, that you can provide.

Not sure I completely understand what you want. But in this example, I have set nav and LayoutDivs 5, 6, 7 to display:none in smaller devices.
http://alt-web.com/FluidGrid/Fluid2.html
I did this inside a media query within my Content.css file:
/* Special Rules for Mobiles. */
@media only screen and (max-width: 480px) {
   /**hide some divs**/
     nav, #LayoutDiv5, #LayoutDiv6, #LayoutDiv7 { display: none }
     /**show jQuery buttons**/
     #togglenav { display: block }
     #showDivs { display: block }
Then I used a simple jQuery toggle to show/hide divs.
http://jsfiddle.net/NancyO/AP9Hm/
Nancy O.

How to setup a default size for new divs in fluid grid layout in dreamweaver?

Hi,
how to setup a default size for a new divs in fluid grid layout in dreamweaver? I don't need the default size for new divs as a 100% width, I need them 13.69% as a one coulmn width only (7 coulmns fluid grids layout for desktop size 1000w).
This problem I've faced when I intended to insert dozens of fluid grid divs in the layout.

Sorry, I don't believe that you have had a good look at the Foundation framework. I'll now hold your hand while we go through the basics.
Here is the specific page http://foundation.zurb.com/docs/components/grid.html
The default values are
Em-base : 16px
Row width: 62.5em (62.5em x 16px = 1000px)
Columns per row: 12
These and other default values can be changed. The fact of the matter is that if you stipulate a section width of 2 or 3 or 12 columns, the widths will automatically be calculated for you.
In your case, if you want 7 columns, all you need to do is change the number of columns per row and the rest is done for you.

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