FTP Keeps Timing Out

I can FTP just fine using my browser with a login.
But when I try with Dreamweaver, it logs in, just keeps
trying (Progress bar, Progress Bar, ...) then skips file.
Unfortunately the file on my server is then empy and I am
hosed.
Then I must go to the manual FTP process.
I have tried re-setting the FTP options several times (CS3)
My somebody be able to give me an DW tweaking suggestions?
Thanks
Mathias

> You say I am wrong while you admit you never used any
other ftp client
I have used more FTP clients than you have years under your
belt. I've just
never felt the need to use anything other than DW for my
websites.
However, I don't feel the need to continue to participate in
this discussion
with you. If you have a problem with DW's FTP please contact
Adobe
directly....
Murray --- ICQ 71997575
Adobe Community Expert
(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
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"Searcherx" <[email protected]> wrote in
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>> I only ask you not to generalize your experience
more than warranted, and
> > try to point out to you that there are many who do
not share your
> > opinion.
>
> I can easily generalize that DW's ftp is crap and no
other ftp client is
> as
> bad. You say I am wrong while you admit you never used
any other ftp
> client,
> heh. Even if I overlooked this little funny detail you
telling me there
> aren't
> many people complaining made me actually curious, so I
looked around here
> and
> you were right, there aren't many, but there is a
pattern I have guessed
> before:
>
>
>
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?forumid=12&catid=18
>
9&threadid=1223009&highlight_key=y&keyword1=dw%20ftp
> Brendon: Typically, in my experience, a third party ftp
client is 'always'
> faster than the one built into DW
>
>
>
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?forumid=12&catid=18
>
9&threadid=1228347&highlight_key=y&keyword1=dw%20ftp
> Kim: Have you tried a different FTP client? If not try
something like
> WS_FTP
> and see if that works. If it does it's just DW crappy
FTP behaving badly.
> I
> know some people have DW's FTP working but I also know a
lot of people
> that
> never got it to work... me included. Besides that if
it's working it's
> slow and
> sluggish.
>
>
>
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?forumid=12&catid=18
>
9&threadid=1059644&highlight_key=y&keyword1=crappy%20ftp
> neilclement: Until a few days ago I had Dreamweaver
MX2004 and Dreamweaver
> both running on my machine. At that time I tested them
both for FTP
> performance
> and Dreamweaver 8 proved to take approximately 3 time
longer than
> Dreamweaver
> MX2004 to accomplish the same FTP operations. If I test
the same operation
> using wsftp, they are accomplished approximate 5 time as
fast as
> Dreamweaver 8
> FTP.
>
> Roloc Dica: DW's FTP implementation has been fairly
flawed over the years,
> and
> even more so with the latest release. Complain to them
about it to try and
> get
> it fixed once and for all.
>
>
>
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?forumid=12&catid=18
>
9&threadid=1145241&highlight_key=y&keyword1=crappy%20ftp
> Sonjay: ..Transmit will magically upload it to the
defined server and to
> the
> appropriate directory, while you continue working in DW.
I do this all the
> time, and find it *much* faster than either using DW's
ftp or switching to
> Transmit to upload.
>
> darrel: That's my experience, too. DW just has a crappy
FTP component.
> I'll
> get timeouts a lot too when uploading large amounts of
data via DW.
>
> And the last one by guess whom:
> Murray: See - I never get that. I'm sure this is some
external
> interference of
> some kind - not to say it doesn't also imply some
weakness in DW's FTP.
>
> And one link from outside your little kingdom:
>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=dreamweaver+slow+ftp
>
> I will summarize it you if you can't see it.
Inexperienced users don't
> know
> there is something fishy with the ftp until it doesn't
work at all. They
> don't
> know it could go faster even when it's working fine.
Most of them go and
> ask
> their ISP to sort out the problem. Experienced users
just get on with it
> and
> create a workaround, no point in complaining if it gets
you nowhere and
> there
> is apparently no solution.
>
> I appreciate your contribution to the cause, it's
obvious this is your
> homeland turf and I am only an intruder. Reminds me of
you advising me to
> get
> out more.. most of your answers arrive within few
minutes no matter what
> time a
> day. No comment ;)
>
> And lastly, because I am not such a bad guy I'll leave
some insight
> behind:
> One of the main problems of DW's ftp is its always
syncing behaviour when
> it
> compares the server time by creating a new temporary
XYINZWSK folder
> (source:
>
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_14839&sliceId=2)
> which means CWD /root, MKD /XYIZNWSK, RMD /XYIZNWSK,
PWD, PASV, LIST, CWD
> /dest
> dir, PWD, LIST, PUT file, LIST. You don't see much of
this in the log
> file,
> because it's not so precise, who knows why. Bottom line,
it definitely
> looks
> like a lot of unnecessary commands to me when you are
certain you want to
> upload a specific file. A small tickbox to skip all that
and we might have
> a
> real speed ftp. Another flaw or missing feature is the
lack of
> multi-threaded
> connections, while I understand not so many people work
fast enough to
> experience the benefits, it would help a lot when you
work on two sites
> simultaneously. Also when you close DW with ftp
connection still alive it
> needs
> to close it properly and very slowly before it shuts
down. Why? Few NOOPs
> PWDs
> PASV PORTs and LIST -a before a simple QUIT? Sweet.
>
> Makes you wonder what kind of people develop that thing,
reminds me of
> linux
> developers and their 'user oriented' attitude.
>
> As for the agreement/disagreement. Show me your speed
test in comparison
> with
> other ftp clients like SmartFTP, Total Commander,
CuteFTP, WS FTP,
> FlashFXP,
> AceFTP, BulletProof FTP, FTP Voyager, Core FTP,
FileZilla, Fetch,
> Transmit,
> Cyberduck, gftp, ftpcube, MC, ... take your pick and I
will show you
> dozens of
> comparisons on different machines, connections, servers
none of them in
> favor
> of Dreamweaver. In fact I have tried many more and some
are pretty bad
> (worse
> than DW) but I can't tell you which ones, it would
invalidate my argument
> ;)
>
> I didn't mean to sound unfriendly towards you, I know
you are not a
> developer
> let alone the ftp component developer, all I want is a
solution to the
> pain I
> have for a decade and I don't like to hear I just made
it all up. Although
> I
> might have ;)
>
> -src-
>
> P.S.: please stop including all the irrelevant previous
post contents, it
> takes up too much space and it's kind of unnecessary if
not lame, just
> like
> half of the dw's ftp commands, imho.
>

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