Gaming? On Mac

Gaming on mac is it worth buying mac to play hardcore gaming or a windows computer ?

For hardcore gaming, go for a Windows computer like an Alienware or any PC with a good processor and GPU.
Macs are not designed for games, but more for work (this is the reason that would explain the terrible overheating most Macs suffer while playing games). They do not include the latest GPU and they are not highly customizable like a PC, so they are not the best computers for gamers

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(LAG ISSUE) Maverick totally killed the gaming on MAC.

Hi.
I can't play any game anymore, it just lags too much to be a good experience. I just wanted to thank apple because my steam library is garbage now, and I really don't know what to do ...
I love apple since I'm in age to touch a keyboard, but they should have warned us that Maverick use so much memory ... Developpers spent years to create a gaming community on mac, and now it's destroyed, all the games have to be ported again.
I'm really sad, because I fear that it's gonna be like the iphone, with new updates that makes it slower and slower. Really disappointed, I've bought my Imac (and I love it) especially for gaming, and now it's clearly useless on that point. Luckily, the rest is still good, but i'm still feeling a bit owned about that new OS ...

Thanks Apple for not making this backwards compatible - but I guess just like with your new "connectors" and power plug, its a way of forcing new equipment buys.
Usually iPhoto will give a warning, when it is opening an iPhoto library in an older format, that this will make the library incompatible with the older software. You should have stopped at that point. Apple's software is usually able to open older document formats, but there is no way that older software can work with new library formats, that had not been invented, when the older software had been written.
As to your network drive: You really have been lucky that it worked so long: Have you read the document I linked to?
It's recommended that you store your iPhoto library on a locally mounted hard drive. Storing your iPhoto library on a network share can lead to poor performance, data corruption, or data loss. If you use both iPhoto and Aperture with the same library, using a Mac OS X Extended formatted volume is recommended. For more information, see Aperture: Use locally mounted Mac OS X Extended volumes for your Aperture library.
Problem is that the new machine came with the new software, so reverting - i.e. installing the old operating system - is not an option
That is really a problem, if you cannot downgrade the new machine and upgrade the older machines. Keeping two separate libraries and syncing them is probably the best option, if you want to use iPhoto on all machines.

Gaming in mac

Hello people I recently moved to mac from PC becoz its awesome machine to work with.. especially when your into post production ant stuff like that.. but what about gaming. I am a serious gamer and I don't see any serious games out there for Mac users.. or may be I am blind to it can anyone show me where to find some games for my new mac..

Apple has a page on games.
http://www.apple.com/games/
But it is true that there are fewer games for the Mac platform. So you can use Boot Camp to restart into Windows XP and play those other games.
Or you can get a game console and not have to deal with Windows or the relative lack of games for Mac OS X.

Gaming in mac book pro 7.1--Call of Duty

Hi Guys,
i'm using a mac book pro 7.1 (2.4 GHz, 4 GB of RAM).
I don't know why when i play with call of duty modern warfare 2 (MAC USE ONLY) the mac is very slowly!;
the entire visual move from left to right, up and down, continuosly: this is a very bad way to play with a MAC!.
Ehi someone, solve my problem please!.
I have not bought with many money the mac in order to play in this way!.
Bye.
M

You purchased the wrong MacBook Pro if gaming is your thing. The simple fact is that MacBook Pro's are not designed as gaming machines, per se, and your model...a 13" with integrated graphics...no dedicated GPU...is a poor choice for graphic intensive games. There is nothing you can do to change this fact, other than not running anything but the game & lowering the game's settings.

Question on Gaming with Mac Mini and hooking one up to a Samsung TV LCD HD

I am looking at buying the 2.26 Ghz mini with 4 gigs of ram. I understand that minidisplay port does do audio and that a 3rd party is releasing a cable that does just this instead of 2 adapters to make it work without audio. My first question is, I would like to make a mini take the place of a apple tv. Namely because I would rather have full functionality on a tv rather than just the audio and movies and pics. If I get the optical cable, I understand the optical in the audio jack out does support 5.1 surround if you are using the optical and not a regualar 3.5mm jack. Is this correct?
I also was curious about how well the 9400m graphics card would handle a game such as World of warcraft. My laptop does just fine, but it also has a faster processor, the 9600 gt and a 7200 rpm hard drive. My tv is a Samsung 52" LCD 1080P 120HZ. Thanks in advance!

BarrettF77 wrote:
I understand that minidisplay port does do audio and that a 3rd party is releasing a cable that does just this instead of 2 adapters to make it work without audio.
Who confirmed that to you? I'm having major difficulty finding out if the Mini DisplayPort does indeed have audio capabilities. So far it's not looking god, which seems like utter madness.

Why cant macs do everything pc's can do like gaming and setting up public servers.

I have had my mac for a while and am sick of the massive wall that blocks me from my friends and our public gaming chatting servers also i can barely download anything because its all just for windows. pleae help me!

Sorry, Apple didn't keep making the right moves to keep the 3D gaming crowd interested after the Intel processor switch, so 3D game developers left in droves, a few are on the Mac platform, but not as many as before.
I had a PowerMac G5 Dual and it was a great 3D gaming machine, plenty of games and I could get video card upgrades too.
But now the MacPro has been left to languish and there are no video card upgrades, it appears Apple wants to discontinue it. Also the rise of cheaper console 3D gaming has it effects too.
You can read this
What is up with 3D gaming on Mac's?
BTW I was looking at getting one of these when they are for sale, can have 4 SLI video cards WOW!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHCm6UCBDlM

Performance While Gaming On Macbook Pro 15" (mid 2012)

Hi I have asked this question a few times now but I think I may be able to better describe it now after analysing cause and effect. Now I don't know exactly what Mac OS X does to optimize perfromance in fullscreen, but I think in my case it is working to my disadvantage.
I first noticed that when you play a game in windowed mode, leave it open, and then click off it, the game will revert to 30fps as it is not in current use. I understand this implimentation is benefitial, however I think it may be working against me in fullscreen mode.
Many games have a fluctating perfromance based on where you are looking. When I am in an envrionment that is particularly demanding the Fps will drop from 60 to 30 with Vsync enabled; this is fully expected. However when I am in an extremely undemanding enviroment the framerate can also drop. Until now I wasn't entirely sure as to what this was, but now I have a theory.
I beleive that the operating system thinks that because the environment is so easy on the graphics, that it mistakenly diverts processing power away from it, causing an unwaranted drop in performance. I tested this theory while playing starcraft 2. I was playing a game that began at 30 fps on medium settings, the fans were not running and the laptop was cool. I then turned on anti aliasing which I knew would cause a greater demand on the graphics. This as I suspected sent the framrate from 30fps to 60fps. This was also when the fans began to kick in, suggesting to me that the GPU/ CPU was now working as expected. This revelation leads me on to the question I now ask.
Is there a way to force the Operating system to put everything it's got in to an application? I am not talking about overlocking here, I just don't want resources diverted away from the game. Please note that I always shut down down all other applications when gaming, so the power is essentially being wasted.
Just in case this will help with a diagnosis, here are my system Specs.
i7 3rd gen, 2.6ghz
Nvidia 650m 1gb graphics
8gb ram
Mountain Lion 10.8.4
Lastly, i'd rather not have suggestions such as playing in windowed mode or disabling vertical syncs. I've also reset the SMC already. Thanks for any replies in advance!

Check under System Preferences > Energy Saver is something like this and uncheck it.
3D gaming on Mac's, what you need to know

What is the best mac for me? (budget: 1299$)

What is the best mac for me? I will use it for:
- Game programming and development
- School research
- Word proccessing
- Presentations
- Programming in Java
- Programming in C++
- Programming Iphone games and Objective-C
- Gaming
So can you tell me as fast as you can, my budget is 1299$

FYI: Macs are not gaming machines.
PERSONAL OPINION: Nothing beats Microsoft (PCs) and/or Sony when it comes to gaming. Macs can play games. However, if you are a gamer, get a PC.

Am I the oddball Mac Pro buyer?

I ordered a Mac Pro not for professional applications not for video editing but for games.
I love gaming on a mac. I think its fun to head to a lan party and bring along my mac. Right now I have a MacBook Pro I got in Feb (replaced my PowerBook G4)
What's fun for me is all my friends and a lot of their friends play WoW. So we try once a month to all get together at one of our places and do a big event of some kind, finishing some big quest or some pvp event or something. The looks I always get when I pull out my MacBook Pro are just great. Most of the people there have laptops with the intel integrated graphics or the ati x200 intergrated. They start off with "Macs suck at gaming" then they come by and look at WoW running silky smooth at 1440x 900 their jaws just drop.
Now when my Mac Pro gets here (delayed by ordering the X1900XT) and we do some at my house they are gonna really go wild on how some of these games look and play. I ordered it with the 2.66GHz CPUs, a 500Gb hard drive, 2Gb of RAM, the X1900XT and the 20" Cinema Display. Our other games we play a bit will be nice too. Unreal Tournament 2004, Quake 4, a few others.
Yes I think I probably am the odd-ball Mac Pro buyer. I like Mac Gaming.
Mac Pro Mac OS X (10.4.7) Shipping 9/26

The only area where PC's still win though is video and sound card options
PC's still do have the video advantage because of the lack of SLI or Crossfire support on the MacTels, but that's a Xeon processor limitation.
Mac's pass through 5.1 surround sound through the digital optical port to a surround sound reciever capable of decoding the formats. It's a MUCH superior method than the crappie analog outputs done by sound cards which actually use the processors to decode.
However if one has one of those cheap "5.1 computer speaker" that's commonly seen on PC's, M-Audio has a decoder PCI card, but I don't think there's a PCI-Express option quite yet.
Mac's audio is clearly superior, provided the optical port is used to a quality receiver and speakers. Like a home theater system like mine.
Analog, even from a iPod, just plain s*cks in comparison.
Since one can get a 5.1 Harmon Kardon reciever for about $600 online, with their matching HKS-14's for a total of 800 watts for another $400. Getting quality sound for only a few hundred dollars more than a "5.1 computer speaker" and a sound card combination is a worthwhile option, since one can hook just about anything else to the reciver. FM/AM, DVD, Coax, TV, etc. etc. Plus it lasts considerably longer, 10-15 years with proper care.
Also when one upgrades a computer, it's a simple matter to hook up the digital optical to the new machine.
With sound cards there is usually a internal upgrade that will make the cards obsolete, requiring a new purchase. Plus the cheap computer speakers blow out fast.
So it might cost less, but the turnover rate is higher so one is paying more in the long run. But that's the life of PC's.

How can i boost my graphics for gaming?

I have a winter 2013 macbook pro with a 2.9GHZ i7, 8GB 1600 MHz DDR3 memory, Intel HD Graphics 4000 512 MB, running OS X 10.8.2 (12c3012) how can i boost this for gaming...is this good for gaming? could i play games like call of duty with this?

goose-hunter wrote:
so do you think runniong black ops 2 would be ok...this is not a gaming PC but i already dropped some coin to have a powerful macbook for work. i figure might as well be able to game a bit on it too..
The 13" is not a gaming computer, despite Apple packaging the 13" along with the other MacBook Pro's.
You'll have to check the specs of the games at the developers sites, however the minmal requirement is 99% of the time unsatisfactory as updates etc come out.
Apple used to have that 13" type of machine as a MacBook, then introduced the iPad and moved the MacBook onto the MacBook Pro's as a 13" model, then removed the 17" MacBook Pro.
So you see the shuffling around going on there as consumers in general are opting for the iPad instead than laptops.
Forget about 3D gaming on Mac's, it's future is very bleak indeed as more people are opting for the 3D less iPads with their "fake 3D" which is 2D images made to look like it's 3D.
3D GPU's generate a lot of heat, thus are unsuitable for iPads, and with the rise of dedicated consoles, makes them a better choice for 3 D gaming for most.
The hardcore 3D PC gamers are on Windows machines for it's longevity between OS cycles, hardware customizing and software tweaking ability.

Hardware for gaming

Hello, I have a Macbook Pro 13 inch, early 2011 and I want to upgrade the hardware so it suits gaming better.
What should I buy?

Rimasu wrote:
Hello, I have a Macbook Pro 13 inch, early 2011 and I want to upgrade the hardware so it suits gaming better.
You can't and more RAM isn't going to help much.
See here for more details.
3D gaming on Mac's, what you need to know

Overheating whilst gaming

I took delivery of a 15" i7 MacPro a week ago and have been checking it out. I have read the various threads on "overheating" and have become concerned. The most "processor intensive" application I have is WoW. I have had three goes over the last couple of days. The first two times after 5 minutes or so the computer got very hot and I quit the game. I know that "very hot" is very qualitative and I have no temperatures to report. All I can say is that the fan noise increased substantially or a second fan came on. (Does this model have two fans?). Last night I had a third go. The base of the computer got so hot I could not hold my finger on it. After 6 minutes it shut itself down. The "on" light on the front faded on and off. After a few minutes I hit a key and the screen opened up as normal. Now only being able to play WoW for a few minutes at a time is not really acceptable. Are there settings I should be changing or should I be returning this computer and asking for my money back or a replacement!!

dealbata,
To be "HONEST", laptops/notebooks REALLY SHOULD NOT be used for gaming(ESPECIALLY MACS). In addition, due to the way Apple implements it's cooling system (very passive vs. aggressive), I would recommend taking control of the fans yourself during gaming. By doing so, you could assure your fans are at FULL speed "prior" to the start of the gaming session, lessening the effect of rapid heat up, due to the fact that Apple's SMC implementation lets the system get EXTREMELY HOT before ramping up the fans.
The disconnect would therefore be, will the program I am currently using (SMC FAN CONTROL) work with the newest MBP's?? In addition, get you a laptop cooler (preferably made of aluminum, with its fans blowing onto the bottom of your MBP), and a small desktop "fan" that you can run during gaming sessions, aimed at the bottom of the MBP (or aimed at the airspace between the MBP and the laptop cooler) when gaming. This tends to keep my temps around 55-60celcius MAX during gaming sessions in WOW, of which I rarely partake (on my laptop macs anyway).
Last but NOT LEAST, for best results, get a true gaming CONSOLE, or a PC for gaming. Please don't burn up your macs, even if they do say "steam" runs great on a mac. It may run GREAT, but the cooling on the Apple "notebooks" is NOT SUFFICIENT in its stock configuration for GAMING...
Hope this helps.

Should i buy a mini mac?

help should i buy a mini mac?
or a pc with media centre software?
i use my crrant pc for the internet
photos ,music kids homework
dont know a great deal about computer jargon
buyt looking to upgrade
please help
malcs

Pos, what an enumeration ! I think that your point of view is slightly biased, and that some "statements" need a bit more explanation.
Mac OS X definitely looks great (we're talking about the graphical user interface - after all, when browsing Microsoft's website, you could very well say that Windows looks great and because it works as it should and doesn't get in your way like Windows often does, it feels great to use this system.
It is UNIX-based, which means it relies on a well-known, reliable foundation (UNIX). The core of the system, Darwin (which is basically Mac OS X w/out all the user interface and bundled applications), is Open Source, which means that its source code is available to anyone, and can therefore be thoroughly analyzed and tested by any knowledgeable person who wants to - thus helping detecting issues (or bugs, if you prefer) and fixing them, which results in greater reliability and security for OS X.
I disagree with No hacking and Bulletproof and stealth security : it isn't entirely accurate, and can be misleading. Mac OS X is not hacker-proof : it can be hacked, just like any other operating system, in many ways. However, it does inculde a software firewall which has a good reputation, and offers an option called "Sealth Mode", which will make your Mac invisible to hackers. It should be enough to protect you from many threats, and if you use a router to connect to the internet, it probably has a (hardware) firewall of its own.
On the other hand, Mac OS X is definitely more secure than Windows. It has less security holes, and since Macs don't run Windows applications (and Windows PCs don't run Mac apps), and that viruses are nothing else than very compact applications, a Mac cannot be affected by Windows viruses and worms. There are some viruses targeting previous versions of the MacOS, but Mac OS X is an all-knew operating system and isn't affected by them (as long as you don't run OS 9 through Classic - but that's only necessary if you want to use old Mac apps, and as a switcher you are unlikely to do so). Viruses, and pieces of malicious software targeting OS X are very rare, and often remain a "proof of concept" ...
Any new Mac comes with a lot of bundled software, including word processing applications (such as AppleWorks, which is kind of outdated now - but many other are available, including Microsoft Office:mac 2004 and a version of OpenOffice.org) and the iLife suite :
iTunes is a well-known application which is also available for Windows;
iPhoto is an app to manage your photo library, it isn't great, but isn't bad either and is well integrated with the other iApps;
GarageBand allows you to make or record your own music, with your keyboard (with software instruments, it's not very practical) or external instruments connected via USB or FireWire
[Warning : this is an application that uses a lot of resources, if you want to run it on a Mini, you might need more than the standard 512 Megabytes of RAM for smooth operation, and a more powerful Macintosh such as the iMac would definitely be a plus];
iMovie HD can edit homemade movies (you need a digital camcorder, and to store the video on your Mac, you'll need a large hard disk usch as an external FireWire one) : you can add transitions, rearrange the order of scenes, add text, chapters, etc.
[in order to edit HD -stands for High Definition - video, you'll need an HD digital camcorder, and probably more processing power than a Mini can offer];
iDVD, which will be of no help to watch DVDs (there is an application called DVD Player that will do this), but create your own DVDs, with chapters, etc.
[if you want to burn these DVDs to disc, you must order your Mac with a Superdrive or add an external FireWire or USB DVD burner].
Apart from the iLife suite, Mac OS X comes with other apps, including Mail (an email client like Outlook Express - just a lot nicer), Safari (a web browser, note that Firefox is also available for the Mac), iSync to synchronize your cell phone or PDA, and many others.
Coming from the Windows world, I'd say that the Mac platform can do almost everything the Windows platform can, often better. The area where the Mac is inferior to the Windows PC is gaming (a Mac is capable of running games, but Mac versions of games often come long after the PC version and aren't as nice).
If you choose the Mac, then the Mini is a good, relatively unexpensive Mac, which is very capable and will browse the web, manage you photos and your music well. The iMac is more expensive, but will offer a lot more power, and a Media Center-like application called Front Row (but it's easier to use than on the PC). In both cases, I think everyone would agree to say that it is wise to wait for Steve Job's keynote at the Macworld Expo (on January 10, 9 A.M. PST) : new products are likely to be announced, and even if the new "Macintels" (Mac with Intel processors, like on the PC) aren't released, iLife '06 should be bundled with every new Mac after the Expo (otherwise you'd get iLife '05 and will have to pay if you want to get the latest - the current version is great but if you can get the new version for "free", it won't hurt, will it ?).
Mac mini | 1.25 Ghz G4 | 1 GB RAM | 40 GB HDD | AirPort Extreme Mac OS X (10.4.3) External 250 GB LaCie HDD | LaCie FW DVD-RW DL 16x | 20 GB iPod w/Color Display

What do I need to connect my Creative T6200 5.1 speakers to my Macbook Pro 15"?

Hello all,
I have made the best move last year from windows to mac and will never go back.
I have a 15" Macbook Pro, and I used to have a tower computer with a sound card.
My old speakers were pretty good for what I needed - Creative Inspire T6200 5.1.
I was wondering how is the best way if possible to connect them to my macbook so they fuction like a a pair of laptop UBS speakers?
Do I need an adapter to convert the audio imput wires to USB, or somthing else?
Also where can I find one that will deffo work?
The speakers have three audio imput wires; black, orange, green. And a pink connection for the remote control. They used to slot into the back of my tower into the sound card and they worked just fine diddilydo.
The speakers info - http://in.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=4&subcategory=789&product=1 7987
Ive wirtted this out very simply and tried not to keep it techie as Im just after a simple solution.
Cheers
Adam

Mac's pass through 5.1 through a stereo mini-toslink that also doubles as a analog stereo output.
You use a stereo mini to standard toslink optical cable to a home stereo 5.1 system/reciever that does the 5.1 processing there and outputs to speakers that way.
There is no 5.1 processing on the Mac and it can't use those speakers or power them, those are for PC towers with a sound card that prcesses 5.1 from games etc. and also can drive the seperate speakers sending the appropriate channel down each wire to each speaker.
If you want 5.1 surround sound, whatever software your using will have to pass the combined digital signal out the optical port in recognized formats like Dolby, etc and your matching 5.1 surround sound system will have to be able to decode the 5.1 format and send the signals to each speaker.
So your looking at buying a home theather system now for a few thousand dollars.
Perhaps a Harmon Kardon BDS 770 or something.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surround_sound
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-X6j1uWiq0Ml/learn/learningcenter/home/hometheater_s urround_chart.html
Also if you 3D game, which is the main reason people use those sort of speakers, you need to read this.
3D gaming on Mac's, what you need to know

Best deal for Non-Retina Macbook Pro?

I'm looking to buy a new Macbook Pro (Non-Retina) in the next month or two, and I've narrowed it down to these three options.
http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MacBook-MD101LL-13-3-Inch-VERSION/dp/B0074703CM/ref= zg_bs_16368311_1
http://store.apple.com/us_edu_307542/cart
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/macbook_pro/13
Which one of these pages offers me the best bang for my buck? I currently am using a Sony that's about a year old. It has 8 GB of RAM, an I5 2410M at 2.30 GHz, and Intel HD Graphics 3000, It's a 14.4 inch screen. I use it for gaming, watching and streaming movies, word processing and productivity, and internet browsing. I'd prefer to have 8GB of RAM in the new computer.
Looking to keep cost below $1300-$1400

phantom_tran wrote:
Honestly, I have some money to spend, and I might like to get a new laptop to play with. I've never had a Mac either. Just looking around.
OK. It was just that the one you had seemed like a decent machine already.
The prices seem so close that I would be inclined to go with the refurb i7 / 8GB RAM / 750GB storage model. But all the models have more CPU and disk space than you need for the tasks you listed, except maybe gaming where Macs are usually weak because of the graphics card. But I guess since you had an Intel 3000 graphics card the 4000 isn't a step back.
You can also save money by getting one of the 4GB RAM models and putting in a cheap non-Apple RAM upgrade yourself, ordering it from a place like OWC:
MacBook Pro 2012 upgrades
One note about Apple. I wouldn't buy refurbs from most companies, but the Apple refurb program is top-notch. They are like new, and come with a full warranty. I've had Apple refurbs that were 100% reliable, and "new" models I paid full price for that needed warranty service.

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