Help, doulbe lines in still images after output

Hi All,
Please help me. I have an hour doc, anamorphic with lots of photos using FCP motion for movements, zooms in/outs etc. After I output (using QT.mov, not self contained movie) and then let compressor 4 compress, into MPEG2 for DVD authoring. A lot of images turn jittery, shakey or have double lines. A friend said it might be interlacing problems. We tried different settings on bitrate, it did not fix. In order to fix the shake/jittery/double line images on my stills, I have had to go into each photo, find the original, copy & then paste attributes on the same photo in the timeline. The trouble is I have more than 200 photos in this timeline, do you have a clue why this is happening? And is there a short cut? I have a macbook pro, OS 10.5.6, 2.4 GHz processor, 2gh of memory. Please please help me.
thanks in advance.

Dear Nick:
I did as suggested in canvas, I changed size to 100% & turned off aspect ratio, in my easy setup sequence preset:
DV NTSC 48 kHZ
capture preset: DV NTSC 48 kHZ
device control preset: FireWires NTSC
Playback Output Video: Apple FireWire NTSC (720 x 480)
Playback Output Audio: FireWire DV
Edit to tape/PTV Output Video Same as Playback
Edit to tape/PTV Output Audio Same as Playback
When I output from FCP, Export Quicktime Movie
setting: current settings
include: audio & video
markers none
make movie self contained, checked
once I get a file, I then use compression 4 to turn the file into
custom: MPEG-2 extension m2v, stream usage SD DVD, quality two pass VBR Best
7.7 Mbps, motion estimation is good
(I customed this b/c the preset that came w/ compressor did not fix the problem of double lines and blurred photos)
thank you in advance for you input.

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