How to Test Mail's Trainable Filter?

In the Apple Support Discussions topic No Junk mailbox in Training mode? a question arose regarding how to test if the trainable filter (the filter that evaluates the "Message is Junk Mail" condition) is evaluated independently of the other conditional tests of the Junk Filter rule -- IOW, if some other test condition in the Junk Filter rule, like sender is not in the address book, evaluates to false, does the "Message is Junk Mail" test which follows it in the rule's list of conditions ever get evaluated?
A proposed test for this involved resending to yourself a message that Mail had previously marked as junk using the "Message > Send Again" function of Mail. It has been pointed out to me that this probably isn't a valid test because "Message > Send Again" doesn't send the original message in unaltered form (there are substantial changes in the header info regarding sender, path, etc.) & thus the filter may not consider the resent message as junk, even if it were to evaluate it.
So, for testing purposes, does anybody have a suggestion about how to resend (or fake resending) a received message to myself without altering its header info?

What matters is whether the Message is Junk
Mail condition would still evaluate to true
regardless.
That depends on what you are trying to determine & if the test produces decisive results.
For instance, consider tests with the standard Junk Filter automatic settings & no other rule involving "Message is Junk Mail" in the list. A test is performed in an attempt to determine if the filter's conditional tests are performed in the indicated order only until one evaluates to false.
"Send Again" should not cause the "Message is Junk Mail" test to be evaluated at all, since in this case the sender is oneself & the Junk Filter should exit as soon as the 'sender not in Address Book' test is evaluated.
Yet, when I try this with a message (correctly) marked as junk when originally received, the resent version is still marked as junk, & this happens not just on my on Mac but on the few others I have checked as well. I have tested with only a limited number of junk messages because on the other Macs the owners do not keep them for long & on my own I do not get that many (AOL is my primary account & has excellent spam filtering), so I would love to know if readers of this topic see similar results.
BTW, I should mention here what might be a potential hazard of using "Redirect" for testing with "real" spam: As I hope everybody knows by now, it is a bad idea to enable automatic loading of remote html images because doing so can alert spammers one's email address is valid. In one case, when I tried the "Redirect" method on my own Mac, AOL refused to accept the redirected message, possibly because of AOL's spam filters. At that point, Mail displayed the message, asking if I wanted to try sending it from another account, edit it, or what. Even though I have the option disabled, Mail loaded the original's remote html images along with its other content. I don't know if that is a design feature of Mail, a problem with just my Mac, particular to AOL, or what, but I want readers to be aware of it, just in case.
Anyway, for this reason I have since confined myself to testing with "Send Again," which seems safe in all cases, & mostly to testing only on my on Mac, just in case it is not.
Back to the "so what" aspects of this topic: It may be that the "Message is Junk Mail" test is sometimes treated differently from the other conditional tests in the Junk Filter in that it may be evaluated first or even if other tests before it evaluate to false. This makes some sense as a design feature in that even if the Junk Filter's automatic mode action isn't performed, it gives users more training opportunities. It may be a bug. It may just be something particular to my Mac. It may be something else, perhaps having to do with trusting junk headers, or something more subtle as yet unconsidered.
In any event, the point is holding all variables save one constant in any single "black box" test of a multi-variable system is a necessity for definitive results because variables may be interdependent. Because of this, the ability to resend to oneself the same message in unaltered form would be useful for a variety of tests, so I would still like to know if anyone has any ideas about how to do this.
iMac G5/2.0 GHz 17" ALS (Rev B) Mac OS X (10.4.7) 512 MB RAM, Kensington Trackball

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 message i001(as) with 'DOCUMENT TYPE DOES NOT EXIST'.
 EXIT.
 WHEN '4'.
 message i001(as) with 'OPERATION NO AUTHORIZATION'.
 EXIT.
 ENDCASE.
 Hope this might have helped you.
Thanks,
Prashanth

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