HT3382 Mini Display and Thunderbolt compatibility

I have a Apple LED Cinema display that uses the Mini Display. I plan to get a new MacBook Air that has thunderbolt display connector. Will my old display work with my new MacBook Air?

Yes, Mini DisplayPort devices will also work with computer Thunderbolt ports.

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Mini Display ports - thunderbolt compatibility?

I have a 3.33 Ghz 6 Core Mid 2010 Mac Pro with 2 mini display ports.
I'm looking to buy a 27" Monitor.
If I buy one of the (now old) NON-Thunderbolt Apple Cinema Displays, I can assume it will work with my machine. However, will the Mini Display Ported Monitor work with a Thunderbolt equiped Mac at some time in the future, when my present pride & joy is past it?

What does the Apple 27" offer that you want or need or more importantly, do, that the one you are looking at cannot? You want someone to predict and speculate on future product support?
What is known -
Thunderbolt (originally codenamed Light Peak[1]) is an interface for connecting peripheral devices to a computer via an expansion bus. Thunderbolt was developed by Intel and brought to market with technical collaboration from Apple Inc. It was introduced commercially on Apple's updated MacBook Pro lineup on February 24, 2011, using the same port and connector as Mini DisplayPort
The Intel and Apple implementation of the port adapter integrates PCI Express data and DisplayPort data, allowing them to be carried over the same cable simultaneously. A single Thunderbolt port supports hubs as well as a daisy chain of up to seven Thunderbolt devices; up to two of these devices may be high-resolution displays using DisplayPort.[7]
Thunderbolt is based on the Mini DisplayPort connector developed by Apple.
This is electrically identical to "normal" DisplayPort connectors, but uses a smaller connector that is more suitable for use on laptops and other consumer devices. It is expected that Thunderbolt's use of this connector will drive wider acceptance.
Because the PCIe bus does not carry video data, it is unclear whether a standalone PCIe card could offer a Thunderbolt port. The Intel Thunderbolt Technology Brief does not give a conclusive answer.[2]
Intel disclosed documentation where video stream is sent to a dual-thunderbolt controller, with the video stream being only sent to one of the Thunderbolt Port, giving the assumption that video stream is not mandatory on Thunderbolt implementation.
Thunderbolt can be implemented on PCIe graphics cards, which have access to DisplayPort data and PCI express connectivity, or on the motherboard of new devices, such as the MacBook Pro.[7][21][38]
Thunderbolt controllers on the host and peripherals fold the PCIe and DisplayPort data together and unfold them after they exit the cable.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Thunderbolt

Mini Display and Thunderbolt Question

So I have a Macbook Pro with mini display port and I bought a Thunderbolt enabled iMac. I thought because of the supposed "backwards compaitbilites" that everything would be fine to connect. I bought the Thunderbolt cable recommended by an Apple Authorized Reseller, only to find out that it cant connect the laptop to iMac for use as a bigger display. Further research confirmed that a thunderbolt device can go to mini display, but not the other way around.
So I am wondering, if I have a mini display to hdmi, can I buy a Thunderbolt to hdmi and use the hdmi to link to two since the signal will be converted for hdmi?
I really need this to work...

That will not work. Your iMac can only be used as an external display for another Mac through a Thunderbolt cable, not a Thunderbolt adapter.
Instead, the only way you have in order to use your iMac as an external display is ScreenRecycler > http://www.screenrecycler.com You just need that both computers are connected to the same network

Is it possible the current Mac Mini 2.7 Ghz i7 with two full-resolution displays and Thunderbolt operate?

Hello,
Is it possible the current Mac Mini 2.7 Ghz i7 with two full-resolution displays and Thunderbolt operate?
Thanxs for your answers.
Gerald

On Second thoughts...
I don't really know how well Logic Express 7 performs on the Mac Mini because I have not yet had the chance to experience the two together. Don't let that put you off the idea though! From my understanding of the system requirements printed on the Logic Express homepage, it states that a G4 or faster system is required, however Apple personally recommend a Dual G4 or G5 is recommended alongside a minimum of 512MB of Ram. This Does mean that Logic Express will run on the Mac Mini but you will most probably find it lags when moving samples in real time and rendering them onto your hard drive. If you really want to enjoy making "serious" music on the Mac then you really need to be looking at the iMac G5 or the iMac Core Duo (Intel) purely for your tempers sake. As for an Intel Mac Mini, there is no indication as to when we will be seeing one on the market and therefore you may find yourself on the fence between keeping your fixed budget and holding on a little or jumping in and getting on the right road to a digital musical life - mac style.
Maybe this will inspire your decision:
http://www.engadget.com/2005/02/08/how-to-turn-your-mac-mini-into-a-low-cost-rec ording-studio/
Hope this helps
-Pos

Mini Display port & Thunderbolt port

I am looking at Mac Mini computer and have some queries for seeking advice. It states to have a Mini Display port but I cannot see the port on the rear view. Please let me know where it is. Regarding Thunderbolt port, is the new one a Thunderbolt 2 interface already? Thanks!

THere are the specs for the current ( late 2102) Mini. It has not bee update since then. It shows the rear connections. It has Thunderbold 1
Mac mini (Late 2012) - Technical Specifications

MINI DISPLAY to THUNDERBOLT

Friends,
I'm using a Mac Pro with a mini display port for display.
Can i connect to an Apple thunderbolt display from this mac pro?

Unfortunately not. If you want to use an Apple display, the older non-Thunderbolt versions (mini-display port) will work.
Matt

Best way to set up two thunderbolt displays and thunderbolt ethernet on a Late 2013 MBP with only 2 thunderbolt ports?

I have a late 2013 MBP with only 2 thunderbolt ports. I want to set up two external displays (both have usb ports on the back but not thunderbolt so I can't daisy-chain) but one of my thunderbolt ports is being taken up by the ethernet adapter. Is it possible to convert one of my displays to plug into my open HDMI slot? Or is it better to use the two thunderbolt ports for the two displays and switch the ethernet to the slower usb adapter?

You can use a HDMI to DVI adapter if the display resolution is not greater than 1920 x 1200.
<http://startech.com/Cables/Audio-Video/HDMI/>
or you could use wireless for your network connection.
<http://www.apple.com/airport-express/>
If you use 5GHz, it should be nearly as fast as Ethernet.

Wide-gamut displays and Thunderbolt

I returned an ASUS PA279Q wide-gamut monitor because several important advertised functions (Adobe RGB and sRGB modes) were not supported through the Thunderbolt connection on my 2013 MacBook Pro Retina (15”). ASUS support explained to me that the Thunderbolt port output was YUV rather than RBG and their calibrated modes were disabled with that output. The monitor worked perfectly on a 2009 non-Thunderbolt MacBook Air through the mini-DisplayPort.
I am now considering the NEC PA272W but it appears to be the same panel as the ASUS monitor. Could anyone confirm that the NEC can utilize its Adobe RGB and sRGB functions when connected by a mini-DisplayPort cable through a Thunderbolt port?
Or could anyone recommend another wide-gamut display that works for sure through a mini-DisplayPort/Thunderbolt connection…
Would you consider the Apple Thunderbolt Display for critical color work?
Thanks.

chris.dg wrote:
So I am curious how well the sRGB mode works? I've read reports on other NEC wide-gamut monitors that when switched into sRGB mode you lose a bit of luminance, that the reds over oversaturated, and general desktop/browser colors are obviously not "normal". Have you noticed anything of the sort with your new PA272, or in sRGB mode is it still a cream of the crop display?
I have not noticed anything odd about sRGB mode. The problems you mentioned, where colors can look horribly oversaturated or shifted, I have seen (or seen documented by others) when the monitor is in Adobe RGB mode. But that is not the fault of the monitor at all. It is always the fault of the OS or an application not adapted to work with such a wide color space, mistakenly assuming the monitor is sRGB. The colors look fine in high-end graphics apps even when the OS X desktop and web browsers look oversaturated.
But like Charles says, other features compensate for this. For example, the Adobe RGB and sRGB modes are just two of the built-in presets for the (highly accurate and factory verified) internal calibration. But you also get to store a number of your own presets. I do not even use the factory Adobe RGB and sRGB presets. I made two of my own. One I calibrated for "widest possible" gamut for photo work, at a certain luminance, the other an "sRGB emulation" preset at a completely different luminance. Because I didn't agree with the luminance of the factory presets. When you make a preset you can set the luminance, white point, gamut, etc. so if you don't like the factory presets it doesn't matter, just make your own. (Note: I am using the PA272-SV with one of the calibrator devices that actually talks to the internal monitor circuitry, so I am not sure how well this works if you get the more commonPA272 model without it and use a cheaper calibrator that only creates a profile without talking to the monitor.)
The factory Adobe RGB and sRGB presets are very useful if you don't want to get into customizing the color specifications, but any limitations they have are easily understood and remedied if you have some knowledge of color management concepts and have a compatible integrated calibrator.
What you might glean from this is that the true value of the PA272 is if you are an experienced graphics user who knows enough about color to get the most out of the monitor. If you are a casual user who just wants to flip back and forth between sRGB and Adobe RGB once in a while, things might not always work as expected and a more conventional monitors could have been a better deal. If you understand how the PA272 is designed relative to color science, and in terms of how it's an internal calibration compared to the external profiling of most monitors, the sRGB mode makes a lot of sense.
chris.dg wrote:
The PA272 has a number of key features for me: the 2560x1600 native resolution, the built-in KVM switch, DisplayPort, wide-gamut for when I want it,etc. But the only thing holding me back is whether or not I should simply stick with a "normal" gamut range monitor because that is where I'll spend most of my time. Cost is not so much of an issue, i just want the best of both worlds, if it even exists.
Although you said cost is not an issue there seem to be a decent selection of monitors out there that would get you similar features, without wide gamut, for a lot less money. Monitors with that resolution, DisplayPort, pivoting, etc. are now widely available.
One last note: Minor problems have been observed with these monitors in OS X Mavericks. I think they started turning up in 10.9.2. It still performs the same but some things don't work right and it looks like Apple's fault:
OS X 10.9.2 Breaks Display Support with NEC Displays: Sleep, 90° Rotation Failure
Apparently all is needed is for Apple to fix it in the next release, whenever that is. A later post on that same blog indicates that a fix may be coming from Apple. Again, these problems do not stop the monitor from doing its job so if you want one you should still buy it.

2010 Mac Mini display and network issues after Mountain Lion installation

I just installed Mountain Lion on my 2010 Mac Mini, but now the display won't work and it isn't showing up on my network. I have it hooked up to my TV (I don't have another screen for it) via HDMI. Also, I've mainly used this computer by using the share screen function with my laptop, so I don't have a keyboard or mouse for it either. The Mini is no longer showing up on my laptop's network list... Any suggestions?

I would see if you borrow a USB keyboard and mouse
from some one, because otherwise trouble shooting the
problem will be next to impossible as sometimes the fixes
and diagnostics require the keyboard (PRAM reset, Hardware
Test, etc.).

MacBook Pro and Thunderbolt compatibility

Can I plug a thunderbolt display to a MacBook Pro and leave it closed? I'm using apple's bluetooth keyboard and mouse.

Yes, if your computer has a Thunderbolt port.
<http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3131>

Connect to hdtv with mini display or thunderbolt?

Which is preferred/best method to connect my macbook pro 2012 model to an hdtv? I can get a hdmi cable and adapter for either, is one better/preferred or likely to have issues? thanks.

If you have a retina MBP, you have TWO THUNDERBOLT ports and an HDMI port. There is no Minidisplay port on that MBP. 2010 models were the last year with just Minidispaly ports. Thunderbolt ports and Minidisplay ports look the same.
Ciao.
It always is helpful when posting a query to identify the exact MBP and OS one is using.

Mini Spec and Camcorder compatability

Hi,
I am about to take the plunge into the Mac world primarily for DVD editing/burning and have two queries:
1) Does anyone know if my Panasonic NV-DX100 camcorder (1998 vintage)is compatible via FireWire?
2) Is the current Mac Mini 1.66GHz spec adequate for Final Cut Express HD v3.5 either as bought or with a RAM upgrade?
Thanks, Tom (looking to escape from the non-Mac world)

Hi Tom.
The main thing about the iMac is that it is a powerful, complete machine. You don't have to start buying upgrades etc.
It has a beautiful, large flat panel screen and a large Hard Drive (at least 160GB).
The DVD burner is faster 8X instead of 4X.
Also the Mini only has one Firewire port. You need at least 2 - one for the camera and another for the FW Hard Drive that you will almost certainly be buying very soon.
The Mini really was built as a novelty to show how small and how cheaply apple could make a Mac.
It works very well but cannot compete with bigger machines which you really need for video editing.
In short, though you may save a bit in the short term if you get one, you will probably be kicking yourself later on.
It's like the Morris Mini car. You could take 5 people from Land's End to John o' Groats in one in a day - but the journey would not be the most comfortable one!
Regarding your marital situation, mine is the opposite. I suffer from severe fiscal-clenching of the buttocks.(Less polite people call me "tight-a**ed").
My good lady has to plead with me to free the moths from my wallet.
Ian.

Can i connect my MacBook Pro model:A1278 13 INCH Mini display (not thunderbolt) to the Apple led cinema display?, can i connect my MacBook Pro model:A1278 13 INCH Mini display (not thunderbolt) to the Apple led cinema display?

I whanted to use my macbook pro in a larger deskop ,so if can somebody answer can i use my Macboook pro 13 inch, its a Minidisplay cable its not thunder bolt ,can i use it to a new apple led cinema display? Thank you!

Never mind, I solved it. Didn't know the converter needed a power source to operate (duh!) Now I have that, it works just fine.......

ADC Display and Mavericks compatibility

After installing Mavericks I can't set the brightness of a 20 inches Cinema Display (ADC) anymore, options are just gone.
Anyone experienced the same? I already have reset the PRAM but it didn't fix it.
I'm using a Macbook 5,5 with an Apple DVI to ADC converter.

Hi,
I have the same problem. Mac Pro 3,1 with EVGA GTX 680 Mac Edition, 30''-ACD plays fine including brightness control, but 2nd screen (old 23''-ACD via ADC-DVI-Adapter) shows no brightness control. Has been all ok under Mountain Lion before.
I just filed a bug report at Apple's feedback page.

Do I have a mini display port?

Hello - would anyone be able to confirm if I have a mini display port? I think I only have Thunderbolt but am really not sure, am clearly quite silly!
Would appreciate help. I have an iMac which I bought in Sept 2011 and it uses Mac OS X......but you will already know this. Oh, and it is 21"
Thanks
Pandora

Okay - I have a feeling that the mini display and thunderbolt port are the same??

HT3382 Mini Display and Thunderbolt compatibility

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