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Hi everyone,
A friend of mine gave me his old G4 Tower (PCI Graphics), which he believed was in working order. It had no hard drive, but I have a couple, so I popped one in, put the G4 Restore Disc in the drive, and tried to load it up.
No luck.
So after checking the RAM, resetting the PRAM and NVRAM, swapping out the CD-ROM drive (then reswapping it back in) for another (thought it might have been faulty), I still got nothing. The computer would never boot up from the CD-ROM, and since I had no system software on my hard drive, I would only get the dreaded blinking question mark...
Okay, so NOW, I was FINALLY able to get the Mac OS 8.6 to start from the CD-ROM - but ONLY after placing a jumper on the CD-ROM to make it the master, and making the hard drive the slave! This allowed the computer to boot the G4 CD (I soon learned that no matter if I held down the "C" key or not, it always looked to the CD-ROM). However, when I ran the Disc Utility to Initalize the hard drive so that I could put system software on it, it said that the drive was not supported, therefore couldn't initalize.
The other only Mac I have is an iBook, so I can't connect the IDE drives to load the system software that way. And I've tried connecting and booting with a firewire DVD drive, by holding down Option or T on startup, but nothing seems to work. The keyboard is a USB connection, and I tested it and it works fine.
I think I've done everything I can, but still no results.
I tried multiple hard drives, multiple IDE cables, and still nothing. So, basically, without bringing it in for repair, is this tower useless to me? Is there anything else I can do? Anything else I can try?!? I'm desperate.
Thanks,
Steve

Hi, Steve -
Yes, the CD-ROM drive must be jumpered as Master in order for it to be bootable.
Your G4 (PCI) should have two built-in IDE buses - one is usually assigned to the CD-ROM and Zip drives, and the other is used for hard drives. If you have the hard drive connected to the same bus as the one the CD-ROM is on, try switching the hard drive to the other bus.
Set the hard drive's jumpers as Master.
Exception - if the hard drive is a Western Digital, it may have a third position, Single, which must be used when the drive is the only device on the bus.
Note - Cable Select jumper settings will not work on a G4 (PCI).
Edit - -
Startup Manager, which is what booting with Option held down invokes, is not available on a G4 (PCI).
Article #106178 - Startup Manager: How to Select a Startup Volume
Firewire Target Disk Mode is limited on a G4 (PCI) - it can be the Host machine, but not the Target machine.
Article #58583 - Firewire Target Disk Mode
Relatedly, a G4 (PCI) can not boot to firewire drives, although it can use them for storage.
Article #58606 - FireWire Booting

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