IDML to PDF

In exporting a file to IDML, does something change/ gets lost in traslation from the original indesign file? Like missing words, reformatted texts etc? I work with a client who has CS6 (I have 5.5) hence we agreed that every time he updates our files to save it in IDML so I can access them as well. But now he claims that after exporting to PDF (after the IDML), some stuff didn't reflect in the PDFs. Is that possible?

@Janine
What can occur (it occured to me): an applied paragraph style was changed to a different one.
Basing a roundtrip workflow through IDML is really a bad idea…
Joel is right calling it outright "dangerous".
Ah, just another one, I have to admit, a very obscure one:
Whole tables will be lost, if they exceed 200 columns (not so with CS4).
It's unlikely you ever will work with those, but… ;-)
Uwe

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