IDS, detection of encrypted packets within non-SSL traffic streams?

All...
Here's the scenario:
There's a host on the internal network that has a reverse shell to the outside world, and the packets being sent back to the attacker are encrypted, over a standard web (TCP/80) port - which is allowed by Websense or URL filter of choice.
Can a custom signature be created to alert on the detection of encrypted packets / data streams over non-encrypted transmissions? We've found other IDS/IPS systems that we're able to build custom sigs to detect and alert on these streams, but are wondering if we can do that in within Cisco IDS/IPS?
Please be specific if possible...let's assume the organization is using the latest version of Cisco IDS software.
Thanks in advance...

Have you got Sig 11233 series enabled? It does, BTW, appear to exclude "WEBPORTS." Maybe a copy could be made to exclude only TCP 443.

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1) To determine the order of the packets.
2) To determine that happen at the very begining of the conection
3) fire when the traffic doesn't match with the signature.
The difficulty number 3, I think, is imposible to resolve because the sensor can compare the trafic with a well defined pattern and fire when it match, but not when it doen't.
The difficult number 2
You need a kind of state signature because this can be classified like a machine state (first three way handshake, then hello packet) but I can't see fields in the state engine that help in this case.
The difficult number 1 could be resolved by a Meta signature.
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Then create a meta signature and add the fourth atomic singatures whith a strict order.
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