Indesign and an iphoto book. Pano images.

I have designed a layout in InDesign that works with my flushmount album company. I had a book printed by Apple and I knew it wouldn't be perfect but I actually lost whole people in the gutter of the book. What dimensions do I need to make a spread that includes panoramic images that seamlessly go across both pages of an iphoto book?

What version of iPhoto are you using? If it's iPhoto 11 then the themes now include a 2 page layout. For earlier versions of iPhoto figure on two 8.5" x 11" pages for a single image 22 x 8.5". This site has directions on creating such a 2 page layout: Creating a 2-page layout in iPhoto.
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I created an iPhoto Calendar and an iPhoto book. Now I'd like to order them together (one order, one postage). How can I do that?

I created an iPhoto Calendar and an iPhoto book. Now I'd like to order them together (one order, one postage). How can I do that?

Of course - that is exactlhy why i told you that you can not because it is not a feature of iPhoto
You can not order different products in a single order. Period. exactly!
LN

PDF preview of iPhoto book shows image degradation

For years I have made iPhoto books first designing pages with text and color imagery in InDesign, then exporting PDFs of the pages to iPhoto via Automator, and then placing the designed pages into blank pages of the iPhoto book. Prior to printing I preview the book by going to Preview in the print dialog box. The preview images have always been spot on regarding what the image quality of the finished book would be. Now I'm trying to make a large book incorporating both color and black and white images. These are elegant, black and white images that have been lovingly restored in Photoshop and feature full tonal ranges. They are TIFF images. Subsequent to making a small, trial run book, I discovered that if I kept the images as grayscale images, they printed too dark. AS a result of phone conversations with Apple and trying the Adobe discussion site, I found that if I resaved the BW images as RGB, the page PDFs I generated when exporting the pages out of InDesign reproduced the BW images perfectly. Likewise, throughout the process of assembling the new iPhoto book, when I placed the pages, the BW images looked gorgeous. However, just prior to uploading the book, I decided to preview the pages and generated a PDF preview in the print dialog box. Lo and behold, all the images show up noticeably different; the BW images lack good blacks--the dark areas seem distinctly muddy compared to the originals. Does anyone have a clue as to what is happening and how I might regain the original look? Thanks. I'm using iPhoto 11 with Snow Leopard on a new iMac.

I don't think you're doing anything incorrectly. I think that the inside page is automatic in the printing process and is not included in the pdf file that is created. Only the cover and pages 1-20 or whatever are added to the pdf file.

IPhoto books appear oversaturated

I realized some iPhoto books and I was disappointed by the quality of the pictures because they appear oversaturated.
I tried saving the PDFs from iPhoto and also the PDFs appear oversaturated if I open in Adobe Reader or Apple Preview.
But the pictures (all with embedded sRGB color profile) are well balanced in iPhoto and in Photoshop, and If I make photographic prints they are OK.
Where is the problem? Is in the PDF conversion made from iPhoto when it sends the books to print?
I work on a MacPro with Snow Leopard, and a LaCie 324 monitor calibrated with Xrite instrument. I live in Italy and the iPhoto books are printed in Europe, the first time I received them from Czech Republic, the second from Holland.
Here are three PDFs saved from iPhoto with oversaturated pictures
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1631025/Diego_Cuoghi_Computergrafica_3D_300dpi.pdf (40mb)
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1631025/Diego_Cuoghi_Grafica_300dpi.pdf (32mb)
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1631025/Diego_Cuoghi_Fotoinserimenti_300dpi.pdf (54mb)

hey, i was looking for iphoto book back up tips and i read your post sometimes ago....
TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance
what do you meant by back up a copy of library6 iphoto database file?how can i do it?
I have back up my iphoto library to an external hard disk, is that mean the iphoto books will be saved as well?

I have alot of loose photos at home (old) and I would love to make a bunch of iphoto books and make the pages like whole page collages? How do I get my photos into iphoto in order to do this? Can I make a DVD at the drugstore and add them to iphoto?

I have alot of loose photos at home (old) and I would love to make a bunch of iphoto books and make the pages like whole page collages? How do I get my photos into iphoto in order to do this? Can I make a DVD at the drugstore and add them to iphoto?

You can make the collages easily if you have iWork. Just open a letter sized page in landscape mode and drag the photos onto the page, rotate and postiion as necessary. Then do a Print ➙ PDF ➙ Save PDF to iPhoto to get a 200 dpi jpeg version of the Pages page into iPhoto. From there you can add it to your book and use a blank page with the option to have an image as the backbround.
If you have a 3rd party image editor that supports layers you can create the collage with it.
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Low budget image proofing for iPhoto book order

Hello!
I want to prepare my photos the best I can for iPhoto book ordering (Christmas present for family).
I have a Dell U2711 attached to a Mac Mini running OS X 10.6.8 and iPhoto '11 9.2.1. and a Canon Selphy CP520 dye sub printer which I thought to use as a precheck of what my JPG sRGB images would look like when printed in a book.
Here's my headache:
If I set up the monitor and calibrate the display profile as suggested in post #1 under this thread then such setup makes me color correct the photos by RADICALLY pushing the midtone slider in the levels adjustments to the left (brightening the picture). Prints that come out of the Selphy under this setup are a perfect match to what I see on the monitor and that is wonderful. However, I hesitate to order a book using such images because they appear far too bright on an iMac for example. (Perhaps I should mention that Google logo in Safari looks like its on steroids in this setup).
On the other hand, if I set up the monitor as it came from factory (PC gamma, standard preset), and use the default DELL U2711 display profile in SystemPreferences, then pictures look relatively ok on screen without any radical color correction. But prints that come out of Selphy with this setup don't match what is on the display, prints are too dark, and again I hesitate to order a book with such images.
Any suggestions?
Thanks.
Mato

Yes - don't try so hard and use your Mac and iPhoto - not a PC
iPhoto is designed as a consumre level program for point and shoot comeras - many people (including me) report excellent results using it that way - load sRGB photos form a digital camera and do minimal processing on them - never do major color adjustments - using iPhoto - preview rthe book -
Before ordering your book preview it using this method - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1040 - and save the resulting PDF for reference - the delivered book will match it.
and order
Apples comments on this are here
Of the negative comments posted here nearly all of them were from people who spend lots of time and energy adjusting photos trying to second guess the printing process and failing to do so - Apple does have an unconditional sastisfaction guarentee - do it the simple way - less is more in this case
LN

Photos in my from my iPhone have same numbering as photos from my dig camera. They all go into iPhoto fine but when I backup to my ext hard drive it will only save one with the name IMG 1002 and I have two separate images both with that name. Help?

Photos in my from my iPhone have the same numbering as photos from my digital camera. They all go into iPhoto fine but when I backup to my ext hard drive it will only save one with the name IMG 1002 and I have two separate images both with that name. How do I get them all to save on my ext hard drive and hope do I prevent this numbering overlap in the future? I'm really hoping I don't have to go through and manually rename every single picture. Thanks.

How are you backing up the photos? The best way is to backup the library itself as that will preserve your organizational efforts as well as all metadata like keywords, titles, faces, places, books, etc.
You can use a backup application that does incremental backups. Thus only the first backup is a full one and subsequent backups just copy those files that are new or changed. I use Synk Pro. The lower cost version, Synk, will do the same job. Other similar apps can be found at MacUpdate.com.
OR: upload your camera to a folder on the Desktop. There you can rename the files to something that is more informative than just the file name. I use the date (international format) along with a brief desc: 2007-1-20-adian1stbday-001.jpg. File renaming apps can also be found at MacUpdate.com. Also you can give the folder an informatve name which will become the Event name when you import the folder of photos into iPhoto.
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IPhoto books and Photoshop

Hello,
I have assembled my first book and had it printed as a folio medium and large soft cover book. I discovered this forum after having sent the books up to Apple to be printed so these books have not benefited from the archived wisdom of everyones comments. Sure enough the medium book shows the half tone quality problems in the non full page images. I am hoping that I can improve the quality of my books for the next try.
Issues with the Medium sized book;
Image quality on the non full page images (I have since downloaded pref setter and made the adjustments as described in another post- one setting was at 300 dpi and the other two I changed from 150 to 300)
Issues with the large book
There was no separation between images on pages with two images. The small book had a narrow white space separating the two images. Is there any way to make sure that that line is there in the big book? (it did not show up in my pdf preview of the book)
Are there any tricks for improving image quality in the big book? I should say that my images are from and Olympus C8080 and they are jpgs 240 dpi 13.6" x 10.2"
Issues common to both books.
I found the text quite hard to work with and I would like to create a Jpg in photoshop that has the text that I want on it in order to bypass the limitations of the iPhoto layout. Are there any suggestions about Canvass size or resolution? Will the quality of text be OK?
Thanks so much for considering these questions

nektai:
The halftone appearance with the medium size book was evident in my books ever with the 300 dpi change. There was a post from a user who had received books from different printing sites in the US, west coast and east coast. His experience was that the east coast book better image quality.
Regarding the space between the two photos, are your photos cropped to the recommended 4:3 ratio? I did notice that if I put a 4x6 cropped photo into one of the frames and Control-click and select Fit Photo to Frame" it will be reduced a bit and leave a white space at the bottom and top.
If you're going to use a 1 photo per page layout and the text on the image file, you'll be best served to find a them that has a full page layout like Picture Book. For the large size I would make the canvas 8.5 x 11 inches at 180 dpi minimum. Then when you place it in the 1 photo per page frame and select the Fit Photo to Frame option it gets fitted without any cropping of the image. If the image is the 4:3 ratio and is placed in the frame if the Fit option is not selected some of the image will be cropped. If the Fit is selected it will be reduced so it will fit horizontally but smaller vertically. So use a letter sized canvas.

Size of digital images for reproduction in iPhoto Books

I have been reading comments in this forum and have become confused reading about image size in iphoto books. I have some very old scanned photos saved in tiff format files on an external hard-drive and want to make a book using them. I don't want to compromise the altered quality of these old photos since so many are over 100 years old and were in poor condition when scanned. I corrected them as best I could using Photoshop and saved them them in tiff form in storage. Can I leave them as a tiff (cropped to 4:3ratio) when I import them to iPhoto or do I have to convert them to j-pegs BEFORE importing? I realize that these files are larger than a j-peg of the same photo so the entire 100 page book is quite large. If so will j-peg format make these look worse in the printing? iphoto's instructions skip over this detail. Could some please help me with an answer to this?

Dognut:
Welcome to the Apple Discussions. You can use the tiffs. There won't be a problem. The only restriction is Apple can't use CMYK color. I've always used jpgs without a problem. As long as the number of pixels are high you should get good results. The downside to using tiffs is that iPhoto will copy them into the library and will take up a lot of disk space. But you can always delete them from iPhoto when you've ordered and received your book to free up disk space.
Do you Twango?

Iphoto book images too dark!

We have been satified with previous Apple iPhoto books. We are disappointed in the most recent one as the photos are dark throughout. Yes, we have a bright monitor, but have always used the same approach. Photos from other vendors using the same images look correct. Can Apple redo with increased 'brightness'?

And
what color profile do the photos have
Did you preview using this method before ordering -
Before ordering your book preview it using this method -http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1040 - and save the resulting PDF for reference - the delivered book will match it.
LN

IPhoto books too light and/or inconsistent???

Hello, Has anyone figured out if the general consensus is that the iphoto books are printing light? An order of 30 medium softcover came out light and also inconsistent from book to book. The hardcover seemed not too light and looked better.
What are others experience, as I would like to try a fix and make all the photos slightly darker and perhaps a bit more saturated....
Any thoughts??
THANKS!

I too have had this problem. I have ordered about 10 large books in the past and the photos were vivid and really looked pretty good. But the ones I received about 2 weeks ago were grainy and the images were really washed out. Funny thing is that I also ordered some single prints of the same pics used in the album and they are gorgeous and clear (very saturated!!). I realize the printing process is different with the books vs. the prints, but this was a tremendous difference. I did email support and they refunded me my $90.00 within 3 days of my email with no questions asked.
I have been reading a lot of these posts with a lot of suggestions for "tweaking" preferences, etc., but I'm convinced that there is a problem with the Apple printing or the software upgrades because I have not changed my equipment - the only thing that has changed is the version of iphoto I'm using. There is no other explanation for having 10 books look great and the newest ones looking so bad! I really like having the books and I hope Apple will resolve this soon.
So as to your question about making the photos slightly darker.........well, you still run the risk of receiving another bad book.
Powerbook Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Producing an iPhoto book using RAW images

I have used IPhoto to create photo books using many cameras. Now I use a NIKON DSLR 5300 camera and cannot produce the phonebook. I am fairly certain after doing much research that it is to do with RAW images. I have OS X Yosemite 10.10.1 and the latest Digital Camera RAW compatibility Update V6.02 was installed on my MAC on 16 December 2014.
I have created the book in I Photo, the assembly process gets completed and when the book is to be UPLOADED an error message comes up saying that I could either cancel or re-try. Have re-tired over a dozen times - no luck.
Can anyone help me troubleshoot this one please?

The error message AN ERROR OCCURRED UPLOAD YOUR ORDER has only arisen since using my Nikon camera.
It may be a coincidence, Linda. If there is another problem with your Mac or AppleID, that occurred at the same time, it might look like the new camera were the culprit. Let's summarize, what you already explored with Larry:
When I preview the book it looks great, I then proceed to BUY BOOK.
To be clear, the preview created with http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1040 looks great? No missing photos or text in the preview? Then your RAW photos are fine.
I used SAFE MODE to buy my book; however the error remains.
Safe Mode will clear caches and disable non-standard extensions. If your network is reliable, the order should go though.
Have you checked these things?
Try to disable timeouts by turning off the energy saver in system Preferences, so your Mac does not fall asleep at a critical moment.
Disable fire walls and antivirus filters, like Little Snitch. The SafeMode should take care of that, but do it nevertheless.
Your country setting in iPhoto Preferences > Advanced: Is the Print Products Store set to the country you are in? The same as Delivery address and Billing Address?
Have you reentered your billing address and delivery address at the Apple Store?
Check your AppleID settings and enable "Express Checkout" for your Apple ID directly at the Apple Store. You can do this right from this web page. Look at the black title bar at the top of this page. There is a Store menu to the left. Click it to open the page of the Apple Store. On the next page click the head icon to the left of the shopping cart to open the settings for your account. There you can enable the Express Checkout settings at the link "Update Express Checkout Settings".
Check your settings for date and time in the System preferences, also your location settings in System Preferences > Language&Region. your region should be set to Australia, if you are ordering from an Australian Store, as your forum name suggests.
One last thing - sometimes the Apple Print Products Store is really not available for ordering. Last year, for a few weeks, nobody could order print products from Australia. If all fails, give the Australian Print Products Store a call - use the phone number on this page: http://store.apple.com/au/help/print_products

When I submitted my iPhoto book to Apple, an error caused the image file to be unreadable or unprintable,why can anyone help me please

when I submitted my iPhoto book to Apple, an error caused the image file to be unreadable or unprintable,why can anyone help me please:)
what I did with my system was following:
1. Update your software.
2. Restart your computer.
3. Make sure all applications are closed.
4. Open iPhoto or Aperture.
5. While all other applications are closed, preview your print product as a
PDF.
6. Resubmit your order.
and still my PDF ibook file looked like my photos were scratched across the photos. Please help:)
Thank you
CJ

Yes me too!!
I thought that I had done someting wrong. The first time it was my first attempt so I did not preview the photobok (did not know this trick). When I did the cover photos were completely ruined with lines and code.
The second time I changed everything and even made a different sized book - thinking my photo files were too big. I dutifully previewed before buying the book and everything was fine. Then a few days later got the usual e-mail message from Apple. When I previewed the project again ALL of the photos were corrupted.
What to do - I need to get the photobook to friends to celebrate their engagement!
If I saved the pdf then submitted this would that work??
Any thoughts - I am working on a large project and do not want to go any further if all the work will be ruined on buying the book.

Custom page layouts for iPhoto books- bleeds and type

I've been digging through the forum for info on creating custom page layouts. I have the basics: print PDF (to capture the page BG and graphics elements), manipulate in PhotoShop and place the custom page as a full page photo.
How does iPhoto deal with bleeds? Since I'm trying to recreate the style of the other pages I'd like it to match.
Is all type in an iPhoto book rasterized? The printed PDF retains type. Will rasterized type in PS layouts match "native" text in iPhoto?
I haven't purchased a book yet and I'm wondering if the book is sent to Apple as a PDF with vector data. If that's the case can custom pages be inserted into the PDF with vector type intact?
Thanks all!
rg

gatz:
Welcome to the Apple Discussions. I don't know much about bleeds but you can manipulate it in the iPhoto preference file with Pref Setter.
Regarding the rasterized type, you'll have to give it a try and then create a pdf of the book to check it out. In iPHoto 5 we used to be able to get a copy of the pdf file that was uploaded to Apple but in V6 that's not possible. I think the pdf file may be the same as we get when creating it via Print to PDF. Here's the info I received from Apple about book quality and materials:
I contacted Apple and asked for information that I could pass on. Here's the reply I received from Apple:
"Thank you for contacting the Apple Print Products Customer Service.
I understand that you would like to know the printing process that is used and the color mode the files should be in, so you can better advise users in the iPhoto forum.
iPhoto version 4 or later, allows you to import and print files through the Apple Print Product service as RGB, grayscale, or CMYK color space. JPEG files with RGB color space are recommended for best results.
While iPhoto 2 can import files of various formats, including RGB color, grayscale, and CMYK, this version requires JPEG files with RGB color space when printing photos and books.
For more information regarding iPhoto 2, please visit the following article:
iPhoto: Color, Black and White Prints Appear Garbled or Distorted
For more information regarding iPhoto 5, please visit the following article:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=165501
Here are some of the technical specifications for the books, cards, and calendars. I hope this gives you an idea about their quality and form.
BOOKS
All iPhoto books are printed using acid-free paper for long-lasting image quality. The photos are printed at a high resolution (300DPI if you use iPhoto 6). There is no external modification--such as sharpening or contrast adjustment--of the photos; what you see in the application is what is printed in the book.
Hardcovers Books
The cover is hard-bound and covered in linen. You select the linen color during the book-ordering process. The hardcover books have a solid, stiff binding that is glued and crimped. The internal pages, measuring 8.5 x 11 inches, are printed on McCoy 100# Text Gloss paper stock.
Softcover Books
The softcover books come in three sizes:
- Large 8.5 x 11 inches
- Medium 6 x 8 inches
- Small 2.6 x 3.5 inches
All of the softcover books have internal pages that are printed on McCoy 100# Text Gloss paper stock. The large softcover book has a white cover (Kromekoteplus Folding Cover, 16 point) with a cutout on the front that reveals the cover-page photo in the book. The covers for the medium and small softcover books have the cover image and title printed directly on the cover. All of the softcover books have a glued binding and feature a thick cover of McCoy 100# Cover Gloss paper stock.
CARDS
All cards are printed on McCoy 120# Silk Cover paper stock. The postcards measure 4 x 6 inches, and the greeting cards measure 5 x 7inches.
CALENDARS
All calendars measure 8 x 10 inches and are printed on McCoy 100# Silk Cover paper stock.
To ensure the best print quality, we have chosen to use Kodak NexPress technology. The press uses a dry toner, which is fused to the surface of the paper. Please see NexPress' site for more information:
KODAK NEXPRESS 2500 Digital Production Color Press
I hope you find this information helpful in answering questions on the iPhoto forum."
Do you Twango?
TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.
I've written an Automator workflow application (requires Tiger), iPhoto dB File Backup, that will copy the selected Library6.iPhoto file from your iPhoto Library folder to the Pictures folder, replacing any previous version of it. You can download it at Toad's Cellar. Be sure to read the Read Me pdf file.

IPhoto Book linescreen, resolution, and color space

to maximize the quality of the iPhoto book I plan to preparemy image files, but I need to know some things about the printing process. Does anybody know the following for the production of the Large iPhoto books:
linescreen
print resolution
colorspace
ANY accepted file types (16 bit layered Tiffs, JPG, or other)
and possibly dot gain (?)
Anybody using Pixel Genius' PhotoKit Sharpener to prepare their files? If so which output sharpeneing settings did you use?
Thanks

Joe:
Welcome to the Apple Discussions. I'll try to answer those that I can.
Linescreen - not familiar with that term but read a while ago that 150 lpi printers were used. Don't know if that's related or not. Also there seems to be a difference (for large book at least) between those printed at the West coast site and those from the East coast site. The west coast books were reported better.
Print resolution - large books are printed at 150 dpi. However, you can change the dpi resolution of the pdf file that gets created for uploading and printing as follows:
Method to increase the print resolution for books:
1 - download and run Pref Setter.
2 - open the iPhoto preference file from within Pref Setter.
3 - locate the Keys titled BookTargetMediumImageDPI, BookTargetSmallImageDPI and BookTargetImageDPI.
4 - change their current values to 300.
5 - save and quit Pref Setter.
Colorspace - I've used sRGB but don't know if that's the optimal one. My results have been OK in my mind.
Files accepted - all those you've listed are acceptable. Tiff file shouldn't have alpha layers as iPhoto doesn't play well with them.
Dot gain - don't know what that is.
For sharpening of those I've sharpened I used Photoshop's Unsharp Mask filter.

Indesign and an iphoto book. Pano images.

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