Install leopard on a FW hard drive as a second boot drive?

I have one my 8 core on snow leopard and there are some apps that wont work. I want to be able to use a few of these apps on my MBP. I haven't gone up to SN yet on the MBP. I want to know if I can partition an external 2.5 inch HD. Install Leopard and a few apps and boot off that partition when I need to run the apps. This will be a bus powered FW 400 or 800 enclosure.

once you restart from the leopard DVD just follow the instructions and the installer will give you a choice of where to install leopard. it's quite linear and you can't miss it.
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