Is logic express 9 enough

I use Logic Pro 9 but I have a friend who's thinking about getting Logic. He's into alt country and pretty much does straight audio recording, very little midi. Does he need Pro or can he get by with express?

Agreed,
I've set up LExpress for two clients... I was amazed at how much of Logic is there, it's no MIDI slouch either. Logic Express 9 does come with some loops and instrument presets as well as presets for FX.
Plus.. you can upgrade to Logic Studio for only the cost difference.
L9 Studio $499
L9 Express $199
upgrade to Studio from Express $300
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Is Logic express pro enough for me?

Guys
I would just like to know if getting Express will deny me of the professional world? Will I miss out on essential things (only for the mean time), until I get Pro in about a years time, is it that express (unpro)?
I just haven't got the money for pro in the meantime but will upgrade in time to come.
What are the major differences that would effect professionalism?

Depends on how "Pro" you think you need to be, but I'd say VERY PROBABLY YES.
The power available to you under Express is very, very considerable. Sure, there are things that Pro has that Express users might want to have, but I've always been a believer in the creative power of limitations. Jam & Lewis became hot producers -- arguably -- BECAUSE they had to come up with creative ways around the limitations of their instruments.
My recommendation -- and I can't speak as a gazillion-selling artist here -- is to spend a year or two with Express. Learn it. Live it. Work the heck out of it. When you've exhausted its capabilities and you can't work around its limitations any more, THEN it'll be time for a well-deserved upgrade.
Major differences: check out the comparison chart on the Apple website. For my purposes, I miss out on some of the more esoteric editing stuff, and I would absolutely LOVE to be able to create 'on-the-fly' clusters of my Macs, offloading virtual instruments and effects to other machines. Some of the virtual instruments are missing, too -- but that gets us back to the issue of creative sweat and adapting to circumstances.
I don't want to flog a dead issue here, but consider that my Logic Express, running on an aging eMac, coupled with a few hundred dollars' worth of outboard hardware, gives me a studio with more capabilities (in some respects) than the afore-mentioned Jam & Lewis. Or Todd Rundren. Or -- heaven forbid -- George Martin. Or W. Carlos. Or... you get the idea.
Just my semi-philosophical perspective. Your mileage may vary.
Cheers,
Michael

Which computer for logic express 8

Hi. I'm looking to buy an apple computer and logic express 8. I want a laptop that is powerful enough to run a decent software for writing and recording tunes that is intuitive and user friendly.
I heard that it is better to get a seperate hard drive to run the music software. Is this true?
I wondered if I could get away with just buying mac book, bu t, am thinking about a mac book pro..refurbished to save money.
THis laptop would also serve to play with photos, movies, etc.
I appreciate any feedback.
Also, I have ableton live, but, I wanted to get logic because Apple has great support and education now.
thanks!

Any computer that apple makes today CAN run Logic. The performance will depend on how much you want to do with it. I haven't pushed my system enough yet, but from what I've seen on the forums, the point where resources start becoming a problem for the macbooks/imacs/minis is around 20 tracks with heavy use of plug ins.
Of course, actual performace is debateable, but based purely on specs, I see three or four main differences between the new MacBooks and the MacBook Pros that you can get refurbished today:
1. The Pro has a bigger screen. Working on a MacBook myself, I can tell you that the smaller screen gets frustrating sometimes. I'm thinking of getting a separate monitor for when I'm working at home.
2. The Pro has a better graphics processor. This will improve performance some, but the difference would be more noticeable in more graphics intensive application like games rather than music production.
3. The Pro has more RAM out of the box. That said, RAM is cheap if you don't get it from Apple. It's also a pretty easy upgrade to do yourself. Instructions can be found in the Support section and are pretty good. I upgraded my mid-tier MacBook to 2GB for under $50. You can upgrade the new MacBooks to 4GB for under $100. The cheapest of the refurb Pros comes with 2GB RAM, but it's unclear whether you can upgrade to 4GB.
4. The Pro has 2 firewire ports, one of which is FW800.
Of these 4 main differences, the only one I see as a deal breaker is the screen size. When I was buying last summer, I, personally, couldn't justify the extra expense of the Pro.
Regarding a separate hard drive, this is a debateable topic and just like any performance issue depends on how hard you're pushing the system. I have two pieces of advice here:
1. Start by using the internal hard drive. If you run into resource problems an external drive may help the situation.
2. If you do go the external route, get a Firewire drive. While USB 2.0's signal speed is faster than Firewire (480 Mb/sec vs. 400Mb/sec), it's fairly well documented that Firewire is faster in most real life applications (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firewire#ComparisontoUSB) and frees up the CPU for more plug ins and/or tracks.
Finally, while Apple is generally known for good support, many of the users on the Logic Pro forum would strongly disagree with that statement when it comes to Logic. Logic 8 was released with some fairly major bugs and there has only been one software update since its relase in September, whereas programs like iTunes seem to get weekly updates. Granted, most of the complaints come from professional studio engineers use Logic 6,8,10 hours a day who push it to its limits on a regular basis. Users like this are more likely to uncover problems than more casual users like me (and I assume you). Don't get me wrong, I'm personally very happy with Logic. I just don't want you to expect the same level of support and education Apple provides for iLife.
Hope this helps.
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Logic Studio 2.0 purchased off Ebay... came with Logic Express 9 upgrade instead of full version, serial works to unlock registration but seems wrong and perhaps a loophole. What should I do?

I purchased what was advertised as a Full Version of Logic Studio 2 off ebay. It ended up being Logic Studio Pro 2 Upgrade and came with a copy of Logic Express 9 upgrade which did unlock the installation. I didn't realize it was the upgrade version til I saw the sticker in the upright corner of the box post installation. I feel like this is a loophole and not a legitimate installation now. Is this legit or should I acquire a full copy of Logic Express? The seller continously tells me that it's 100% legal and legit, etc.. I have already demanded he should send me or reimburse me enough to acquire a legitimate copy of Logic Express that supports the upgrade. Am I right in doing so? Or is it okay to use the Logic Express 9 upgrade copy to upgrade to Logic Studio Pro 2? Doesn't seem right. I'm very confused and would love some advice. Thank you in advance.

The Logic Express 9 upgrade package requires you should own Logic Express 8 Full.... for that to be a legal use of the Logic Express 9 upgrade serial which then you could use to register LP9/Logic Studio 2.0 upgrade package using the LS2.0 upgrade serial..
This is an apparent loophole, in my opinion, that is being exploited by the seller....
However, when in any doubt with anything regarding possible legal issues... contact Apple directly and ask them for their advice/opinion on the matter.
http://www.apple.com/contact/
Cheers!

Logic Express/Emagic emi6/2m problem

I've recently started having a problem with my iBook/Logic Express (7.1.1) and Emagic emi6/2m audio interface. I'm getting regular audio pops and clicks when playing my synth plug-ins (it happens with all the ones I've got) and only happens when I play them 'live' so to speak (ie not when playing back a part that I've already recorded). I don't think it's a RAM/CPU problem because it hasn't happened in the past and the CPU meter doesn't seem to be going very high most of the time. I'm not 100% sure, but I think the problem has only started since updating to OSX 10.4.6. I've downloaded the latest driver for the audio interface but it hasn't helped. Has anybody out there using a similar set-up had the same problem? Any suggestions gratefully received (maybe I have to update to LE7.2). .
iBook G4; Mac OS X (10.4.6) Logic Express 7.1.1/768Mb RAM

No big deal.....A friend of mine has an emi2/6.
He experiences audio drop outs, now and then.
(Especially at low buffer settings)
Then I realized he has no power adapter connected, (He lost his).
It seems you don´t use that either.
Maybe, just maybe, the emi doesn´t get enough power from
the USB port. After all the emi is old and USB1, only.
JanD

Will logic express 9 be on the mac app store?

Hey guys,
i noticed aperture 3 on the app store for £49, whereas to buy the disc version it is £173
i was just wondering if they would be doing a similar thing with logic express 9,
thanks!
from alex,

Honestly? I hope not, because this forum would be overrun by newbies who take Logic for granted and don't consider it's a pro app with a steep learning curve. In this "brave new world" all the kids just no longer know how to spend time for even reading a simple manual, not to speak of the Logic user manual, which looks like rocket science to many of them, i assume.
Through all times, the art of making music, recording and mixing demanded time, effort, experience and patience. I learned it the hard way, and i really know what i got from Logic. It's fantastic. So i was willing to pay the price for it, because it's valuable for me.
Not that i want to be it expensive (i would like to have payed less, too), but i see the downsides, also. People who simply buy it because it's cheap (and not because they need it), but who don't know nothing about making music, recording and the most basic things and then run down the forum complaining how "complicated" this app is.
So, enough for the ranting. Surely i'd like to get the next version of Logic spending less money myself
Fox

Is Logic Express worth it???

I am building a quality (humble) recording studio off of an iMac G5; I will be using the M-Audio FireWire 1814 as my audio interface and Pro Tools M-Powered as my main recording application; however, I have learned that there can be some advantages to having more than 1 audio/midi sequencer on a machine.
I am about to order the iMac G5 and my question is:
-- is it worth it to pay the extra $200-300 to have logic express installed when I will be using ProTools?
-- are Logic Express's MIDI capabilities strong enough to use over Pro Tools?
-- what are the main differences between logic express and logic pro (other than $700, or should I wait to invest in that also)?
-- in practice, when would Logic Express be helpful when working with ProTools?
I am new to recording with a MAC; Logic Express seems like it could be helpful, but I'm just worried that I'd be spending $300 on something I'd already have with ProTools.
Thank you,
~Nicholas

Hi Nicholas,
The general consensus is that logic is far easier to use than PT when you have any decent amount of midi to deal with.
If you are going to use plenty of virtual instruments, then I think it will be worthwhile for you to have logic.
As for the pro version, you get a whole bunch of virtual instruments bundled with it, plus the ability to use more than 12 inputs, and a bunch of extra editing options and plugins etc. etc.
If you goto www.apple.com/logicexpress you should find a link to a comparison list between express and pro.
Having said all that, PT is a great programme (even though i prefer logic) and you may find that the best course of action is to get used to working with what you have before lashing out on more software.
Cheers
Dean

Logic Express says "Disk is too slow or system overload (-10010)"

I have a brand spankin new white MacBook. It has Intel Core Duo 2.1 processors, with 2gigs of RAM, and Leopard 10.5.6 OS. I am using Logic Express 8 and every now and then I will get an error message "Disk is too slow or system overload (-10010)
I checked the requirements for Logic Express 8 and I exceed them. Could I still need more than 2 gigs of RAM?

I got the same problem when I was recording 10 tracks while using SW monitoring. For a short while it went OK but then twice in a row I got this message about the disk being too slow. The result was that I got a real loud noise on the headphone. But after that the recording just proceeded. I had to stop because otherwise I think the musicians would have gone deaf. However I had to continue with recording for some more hours so I tried to solve it. The following worked for me. I turned off 24 bit recording because I had the impression there was too much data being written. I also made the buffer as low as possible (32). After that I did not have a problem anymore and recorded for about 7 to 8 hours in a row.
So I suspect that the HD is indeed too slow or has not enough cache. As far as I can see my HD has 8 MB RAM and runs at 5400 rpm. I wll ask Aple support if this could be an issue when recording large amounts of data. Note that I have 4 GB RAM and still got the problem so that is not the cause of this issue here.

Sountrack or Logic/Logic Express for voice over recording?

Hello,
I am wondering which software is best for voice over work? Sountrack or Logic/Logic Express?
Any input would be great. I would add the standard effects/filters to certain voice overs and add sound effects and music.
I have a midi/guitar and garage band is enough for me. I would not want to use Garageband as my software of choice for voice over work. I want markers and other more advanced tools?
Thanks,
Erik

Thanks for the answer.
I was looking at the Dialogue Tools in Sountrack and they appear to be perfect.
My main questrion is can record into Sountrack with a mic right? I have an m-audio saphire with a m-audio preamp.
I saw a demo of Soundtrack at NAB and all the effects looked perfect for voice over. I think Logic Studio is overkill but Sountrack and Logic Express( for my guitar) might be a perfect 1-2 punch. I will get Sountrack with The Final Cut Studio as I need video tools as well.
Thanks,
Erik

Sountrack or Logic/Logic Express for Voice Over work?

Hello,
I am wondering which software is best for voice over work? Sountrack or Logic/Logic Express?
Any input would be great. I would add the standard effects/filters to certain voice overs and add sound effects and music.
I have a midi/guitar and garage band is enough for me. I would not want to use Garageband as my software of choice for voice over work. I want markers and other more advanced tools?
Thanks,
Erik

Hi Erik,
I haven't used Logic or Logic Express, but I recently switched from Pro Tools to Soundtrack Pro 2. (I'm an independent producer/host for 2 weekly shows on Connecticut Public Radio.)
All I can say is this-- Soundtrack Pro has shaved hours off my Pro Tools workflow, is much more intuitive, and is (obviously) Mac-friendly, so I've been singing its praises ever since I made the switch.
In fact, I think Apple should be marketing it directly to radio stations!
Hope this helps,
Bruce
www,barberproductions.com
www.rlsguide.com

Logic Express for podcasting?

Hi all,
I'm really new to the podcasting thing and am trying to research podcasting software for my workplace. They're getting a Mac Pro and obviously it'll have Garageband but they want another step up. How is Express for podcast editing? My workplace will mostly be creating interview podcasts, possibly some videopodcasts down the line and maybe some audio slide shows.
Does anyone know if it enables users to create the XML feed, RSS feeds easily? I'm also looking into Adobe Soundbooth and would do iPodcast Producer but it is PC-only.
Any suggestions are welcomed.

I'm new to logic Express but Garageband is pretty good for podcast and easy enough for anyone to use. You may want to give it a look first.

Logic Express + Korg microKONTROL

I have recently got back into using Logic Express after purchasing it about a year or so ago and I'm now having problems with getting my microkontrol MIDI controller to work with it. I have read the manual thoroughly and it seems to be in a different language to me.
I'm not even sure of what MIDI device/port settings I'm supposed to select when going through the process of the Logic Setup Assistant. I can't find the right information in the documentation I have.
Is anyone able to help with how I might be able to hear the notes that I play and/or record MIDI in Logic Express ? I would greatly appreciate some help. I'm not too concerned with controlling automation or controlling many parameter just yet. I just want to play my synths.
Failing that, if there is anyone who is London-based and kind enough to show me how this works ? (I will pay).
Cheers!

hey Sine,
go to the environment and create an object for the microKontrol.
Regards,
Jorge

How can I route my audio interface inputs to Logic Express inputs?

Hello,
Logic Express can 12 inputs to record audio on.... fair enough.
My MOTU Traveler, together with ADAT connected Mackie Onyx 800F have 16 inputs...
How can I use the first 4 inputs (XLR) together with the last 8 input (ADAT)
Logic only seems to count from 1 to 12!
(After reading the manual, It seemed to be solved by making new Audio Input Objects in the Environment, but unfortunately these objects where removed from Logic Express)
Does anybody have the solution?
Thanks a lot.
Greetings,
Mark

Hi Michael, thanks a lot!
Unfortunately it didn't solve my problem yet. I tried
the audio/midi utility and found that the inputs
can't be turned off. Is there not a environment patch
possible, that I can load that puts the inputs in the
right order? I hope so!
Greetz,
Mark
The Environment doesn't route audio; it routes MIDI. There are audio objects IN the Environment, but you can't shuttle audio around like that.
You have to remember that LE is an entry-level piece of software. You might think Garageband is entry level, and I think it should be, but in reality, LE is VERY crippled. Don't get me wrong, I'm not ragging on Logic as a program; I think Logic is great. But Apple has made some poor choices with respect to the features of LP that get crippled in LE.
Sorry to digress from your original topic, but I think this is a bigger issue. The difference in price between LP and LE is enormous. That difference should be due to the fact that LP has plugs and effects (and other fairly esoteric features, like surround mixing, that most people don't need), and that justifies the price difference. Remember, when Emagic sold Logic (pre-Logic Pro 6), those effects and instruments cost a LOT more than the difference between LP and LE. LP is really a steal for what you get. LE is a poor substitute.
Seriously, LE is a lot less than just a lite version of LP; it's crippled by things like the 12 input/output thing (what is the point?), the useless Auxes, and numerous other little things that keep it from really competing with other 'lite' sequencers like Cubase SL or Audiodesk.
Anyway, I think the answer to your question is, if you need to record more than 12 simultaneous tracks, or you need flexibility in accessing your hardware's inputs and outputs, you need a better program.
Fortunately, the upgrade cost to LP isn't that much, nor is the crossgrade to Digital Performer...

Want to Upgrade My G3 B&W to run Logic Express 8 but is it possible?

My system I'm running at the moment is: G3 PowerMac 400Mhz/1MB Cache
512MB PC100 RAM
ATI Rage128 16MB Video Card
MOTU PCI-324 Audio Card/MOTU 2408 MKII
Adaptec SCSI PCI Card
Western Digital 40GB IDE Hard Drive
Original Apple 9GB Hard Drive
40GB IBM 10000Rpm SCSI Hard Drive
17GB IBM 10000Rpm SCSI Hard Drive
I am looking at upgrading the Processor to: G4 1GHz Powerlogix ZIF Upgrade
1GB PC100 RAM
ATI Radeon 9200 Mac Edition 128MB
If I upgrade to this will my machine then run Logic Express 8, or will it do as it does now and just act like it is starting by bouncing the icon in the dock then stopping? At the moment I cannot run Adobe CS3 Design/Web Premium or my Logic Express 8. Please Help!!!

Give up the ghost on that one, there's no way you'll ever get LE 8 running right on that, even with the upgrades.
fist the specs here:
http://www.apple.com/logicexpress/specs/
The G4 at 1.25 is the slowest mac that meets that but that has a memory speed of ddr 333.
If you put in the 1 Ghz g4 upgrade it will drop the memory speed to 66 which will kill your latency.
It will probably install and run but you will either have pops and cracks or have to set it to a 1 second buffer.
The video card is overkill as well. You wont see that much a difference unless you try to play 3D games on it, but in that case the fact that it is on the PCI bus will be the bottleneck.
If anything get one of those hacked nVidia 5200 cards so you can at least get core graphics going and take a few of cycles off the CPU.
Usually when an app. bounces in the dock and doesn't start its because there is not enough memory. If the app sees that parts of itself are getting loaded into virtual memory it will stop.

IControl and Logic Express

Hi everyone, 1st post with 2 questions:
I am a new user with the latest version of LE installed (7.2.3) and find that some of the controls on my iControl dont' work.
For example, the rotary dial, master volume and play/record controls work, but the individual track volume controls and return to zero button don't work. According to the Apple pdf on control surfaces, everything should work (which it does when I'm using Garage Band).
Does anyone have any suggestions?
My next question relates to my POD XT -- when I turn it on, it seems to "fry" my iControl and I have to go under preferences and reinitialize or something to that effect.
What am I doing wrong?
Thank-you,
Vince
intel imac 20" Mac OS X (10.4.8)

I just got an iControl $65.00 new! whew! CompUSA is closing in my town, and all goodies were 50% off.
anyway, it works perfect with Logic Express, except, as you found, the return to beginning button of the transport controls.
I figured out it's because Logic does not have such a button. A double hit of the stop button acts as the return to 0.
So, a quick solution is to simply open up the Key Commands window, go to Global, then find Stop. Click once on stop, then at the very bottom right of the window is the "learn assignment" button. click once on that, and simply hit the button on the iControl once, and close the window.
Logic Express 7 now will return to zero just like it's supposed to.
I gotta tell everyone, I've seen people on these forums saying what a toy this thing is, and another M-audio piece of junk. I've had some expensive control surfaces, and this thing rocks. it has just enough to be usefull, but not so much that you spend alot of time screwing around with things.
I like it, and now that I have one, would have paid $150 for it.

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