LabVIEW Toolkit for LEGO MINDSTORMS NXT in Windows Vista

Anybody knows how install LabVIEW Toolkit for LEGO MINDSTORMS NXT with Windows Vista?. Installing it gives me an error that says 'The windows installer is corrupt. To attempt to resolve the issue, please register the engine by running regsvr32.exe on msi.dll'. But it doesn´t work.
Thanks in advance

The work around for this issue is to install each of the MSI files setup.exe calls when running the installer. I was able to reproduce this issue for the 1.0 toolkit I was unable to do so for the 2.0 toolkit. This being said the instructions bellow are for those of you who are running into this issue with the 2.0 toolkit.
Listed bellow are the MSIs you will need to run (shown here at their default location after the self extracting EXE has been run). You should run these MSI in the following order.
C:\National Instruments Downloads\LabVIEW\7.1\LabVIEW NXT Toolkit\2.0\Products\MetaUninstaller\MU\MetaUninstaller.msi
C:\National Instruments Downloads\LabVIEW\7.1\LabVIEW NXT Toolkit\2.0\Products\MDFSupport\MDF\MDFSupport.msi
C:\National Instruments Downloads\LabVIEW\7.1\LabVIEW NXT Toolkit\2.0\Products\MDFSupport\MDF\EULADepot.msi
C:\National Instruments Downloads\LabVIEW\7.1\LabVIEW NXT Toolkit\2.0\Products\LVLEGONXTTK\LVLEGONXTTK\LVLEGONXTTK.msi
C:\National Instruments Downloads\LabVIEW\7.1\LabVIEW NXT Toolkit\2.0\Products\LVLEGONXTTK_LV71\LVLEGONXTTK_LV71\LVLEGONXTTK_LV71.msi
C:\National Instruments Downloads\LabVIEW\7.1\LabVIEW NXT Toolkit\2.0\Products\NXT_Driver64\LegoMindstormsNXTdriver64.msi
A similar procedure can be used to install the 1.0 toolkit if need be. You can get the install order from the parts from the [Parts] section of the setup.ini.
Mark
LabVIEW R&D

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"LabVIEW Toolkit for LEGO® MINDSTORMS® NXT"を
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Failed to load (C:\Program Files\National Instruments\LabVIEW 7.1\vi.lib\addons\NXTToolkit\shared\NXTToolkit.RemoveScrollbars_8_0.vi)
#### Finished Mass Compile: 2008年7月2日 18:42:58
Labview 7.1では関係ないのかなと思っているのですが、関係あるでしょうか？
その他でも、不具合原因について、心当たりのある方がいらっしゃいましたら、
アドバイス頂ければ幸いです。
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LabVIEW_Toolkit_for_LMS_NXT_Getting_Started_Guide.pdf ‏201 KB

I do know of this one software where you can simulate the NXT, but it might only be for NXT-G programs.
SimplySim at The NXT Step
Other than that I don't think there's any way.
As for the difference between the two, there's a whole ton. Those are two different programs with very different syntaxes. Lego NXT-G is the basic software that comes with the NXT kit. It's a very scaled down version of LabVIEW and is pretty nice. LabVIEW is much more advanced and you can do much more with it, but you are restricted to using the LabVIEW NXT Toolkit and the NXT's cababilities. (no float, only so much RAM, etc.). But you can still do a ton more with it. Yes, you can data log with LabVIEW in, like, many ways.
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Hi John,
Problem: Unsupported case structure values in NXT Toolkit VIs.
I think the problem is, that the VIs of the NXT Toolkit do not follow the restrictions of the Programming Guide of the NXT Toolkit. The programming Guide says at page 6 (Structures, Case Structure) that
“Only one specific value (or "Default) is allowed in the case selector lable for each subdiagram."
But for example the "PortSemaphore.AccessSemaphores.vi", which is part of the NXT Toolkit (and which is a Sub VI of "NXT_SyncUnlimited.vi") uses a Case Structure with the values “0, Default”, “1”, and “2”. This is only one example. I found many VIs in the NXT Toolkit which are using case structures with more than one specific value or with a “0, Default” value.
Why does the NXT Toolkit include VIs whitch are not programmed according to the Programming Guide of the NXT Toolkit?
How can I solve the problem? Do I have to modify each NXT-Vi with incorrect case structure values?
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LabVIEW toolkit for Lego Mindstorm EV3

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I'm a high school teacher in Tamil Nadu, India. Our school recently purchased 4 lego mindstorm NXT kits. We were happy to find that the new software was powered by labview, because it runs on linux. Our school runs on an Edubuntu LTSP network. So we were sad when we discovered the installation disk only supported MacOS and Windows.
I looked at the labview site for NXT and saw that we could get a student evaluation copy for use with NXT - so I filled out the forms, but when the link to the FTP site was given, it only provided a Windows and MacOS copy.
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Hello Jason,
I'm sorry I didn't make this more clear in my previous post, but the LabVIEW Student Edition for use with LEGO® MINDSTORMS® NXT is only available for Windows. This will provide you with the LabVIEW 7.1 Student Edition and then you can download the LabVIEW Toolkit for LEGO® MINDSTORMS® NXT. This will give you the ability to create custom NXT blocks in LabVIEW.
Another option would be to purchase the latest LabVIEW Student Edition and then download the LabVIEW Toolkit for NXT. However, this edition is also only available for Windows. The customers that are downloading the LabVIEW Toolkit for LEGO® MINDSTORMS® NXT on a Mac OS have purchased the full version of LabVIEW for Mac.
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Hi,
which NXT software did you exacly installed? LabVIEW Module for LEGO MINDSTORMS NXT or LabVIEW Toolkit?
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Connecting LEGO mindstorms NXT to my computer

I am trying to learn Labview using the LEGO mindstorms NXT robot. I installed Labview 2009 and started working, but when I open the NXT terminal in the NXT module it claims that the NXT is not connected although it is (via USB). Any ideas ? Could this have to do with the fact that I am using Windows Vista ?
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This article is intended to indicate the installation and configuration process between LabVIEW and educational robot Lego Mindstorms NXT wirelessly, this will enable LabVIEW developers in having a mobile platform for the development of projects and autonomous robots, we need to install some programs the computer:
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How do you add a third party sensor to LabVIEW for Lego Mindstorms?

I recently purchased an IR Sensor from Mindsensors (DIST-Nx-Long-v3) which I need for a SLAM (Simultaneous Localization and Mapping Application) that I am developing using the LabVIEW for Lego Mindstorms software. I installed the Mindsonsors IR Sensor, and it works under NXT-G and RobotC, but am having trouble finding a way to get LabVIEW for Lego Mindstorms to install the sensor.
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Hi Ethan,
As you can see from my Word document, I am a little light on the proper terminology. That's because LVLM comes with inadequate documentation.
I have already followed your recommended protocol for installing a 3rd party sensor (in fact, its the protocol recommended by Mindsensors) with the application set in the Remote Mode (.lvrbt), and it does create a sub-palette with all the Mindsensors functions on it. But when I drag the Mindsensors icon to the Block Diagram and select "Distance Sensor," the Distance Sensor (an IR sensor) doesn't work (even though the Mindsensor's Distance Sensor does work with NXT-G, RobotC and LVLM under other circumstances (see below)).
If I repeat the above process with the application set in the Direct Mode (.vi), I also get the sub-palette with all the Mindsensors functions on it. When I drag the Mindsensors icon to the Block Diagram and select "Distance Sensor," the Distance Sensor does work.
What I need for my mapping application is for the Distance Sensor to work in the Remote Mode. I called NI tech support and the first engineer told me to simple drag the Mindsensors Functions (.vi) onto the Block Diagram. I did this, but when I selected the Distance Sensor, the icon appeared, but the sensor did not work. Since I have no idea what's under the hood of the vi or a function, I assumed that simply dragging the vi/function onto the desktop didn't install the vi/function properly. I went back to the Applications Engineer, and he confessed that he did not understand the LVLM product.
My frustration is being punted to new people, none of whom so far (other than you, of course) understand LVLM.

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This software allows users to run code on their computers to control LEGO® NXT Bricks and compile, download, and run LabVIEW code directly to the NXT. The new NXT Module 2009 represents a considerable improvement in features and usability over past versions.
Totally redesigned APIs
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Nice! But I guess that doesn't mean that you will be releasing a free version any time soon... does it.
Oh! BTW (slightly off topic) you should remove the "Select Your Operating System" block on the Student edition cd order form. It just gets peoples hopes up that they might get a mac version.
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Why does LabVIEW for Lego Mindstorms have 2 Functions Palettes?

LabVIEW for Lego Mindstorms has 2 separate Functions Palettes. One of them appears when one creates a VI (.vi) for a Project (.lvrbt), and it appears to contain Mindstorms NXT functions. The other appears when one creates a stand alone VI (.vi), and it contains functions which are labelled "NXT Robotics" but which appear to be the old Mindstorms RCX functions. For example, the Motor Functions have no Speed or Duration controls. (See Control Palette pictures on the attached Word document.) (NI should be aware that the RCX is no longer sold or supported by Lego.)
If I only want to create a stand-alone VI, how do I access mature NXT functions with which to implement that VI?
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NI LabVIEW Function Palettes.doc ‏127 KB

I knew that the NXT could be controlled from a "remote" device (e.g. cell phone), though perhaps "remote" is a poor choice of words given your use of the word "direct" which, as you use it, has the same connotation. I have never run the NXT in the direct mode, nor have any of my team members. The reason I assumed that you had included RCX functions was RCX functions had fewer properties than NXT functions just like your "direct" functions do. I have no idea where the "dual mode" functions are to be found.
I think LVLM has inadequate introductory documentation.I have Gasperi's book, but like NXT-G books, he only gives recipes for robots with different functionalities. LVLM needs a better structural and functional description.
Lego Education is not supporting LVLM (nore is NI, for that matter, at least not very well...it was a lot of work to get to someone who knew what they were talking about). The guys at Lego Education are not in a position to support LVLM. Your guys also asked me to call "Tom Barrowman," Lego's New England sales rep. I didn't call him, but I am betting that he knows even less.
I understand why NI doesn't want to put the support bucks into LVLM. The license for LV cost $2500/year, and I bought LVLM for $100. LVLM was intended to be an introductory product for people (kids) who might become NI customers someday, but if those kids walk off in disgust because they can't figure out how to use LVLM, NI's investment in it will have been for nothing.
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LabVIEW for LEGO MINDSTORMS and EV3

Can LabVIEW for LEGO MINDSTORMS be used to program the EV3?
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There appears to be some inconsistency with regard to the release of LabVIEW for the LEGO Mindstorms EV3. The website at www.legoeducation.us/eng/misc/comparingEV3andNXT.cfm indicates at the bottom of its right-hand column that such support will be available in the fall of 2013 which I presume means around now. Do I presume that the other educational version, LabVIEW for Education, catering for more than just the LEGO NXT/EV3 and Tetrix will be released then also? The other question I have is whether these releases will have incorporated the VIs to allow use of not just the LEGO sensors but also those marketed by HiTechnic, Vernier (in conjunction with its adapter) and Dexter Industries - they suit science education best - and possibly MindSensors sensors and actuators also?
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System Identification and Transfer Function of the LEGO MINDSTORM NXT Robot

Can anybody please help with the below question.
Using your LabView interface, input different values of power and record the output value of the number of wheel rotations. You can convert the latter into speed by measuring the diameter of the wheel. Then, type ‘ident’ in the command line of Matlab to launch a graphical user interface for system identification. Using the data collected for input power and recorded speed, you can derive the transfer function for your robot in the Laplace domain.
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Set both Integral and Derivative to 0
Increase the value for Proportional controller to 0.5, 0.8, 1, 1.1, 1.3, and 1.5
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You should be able to build control system to do this using PID control VIs. The following paper is a good place to start when working with PID systems.
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I spoke at length with someone at Lego Mindstorms support. Unfortunately I didn't think to get his name.
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