Launching external applications from web start

Hi!
I am currently working on a management system and I need to launch other management systems from my Java Web Start application. The other systems are either based on web applications (URLs), telnet - needs to set up a telnet session, or running shell scripts or batch files.
URLs are ok. I am using Desktop.browse in Java 1.6 or I can use BasicService.showDocument in javax.jnlp API.
My application may run on both windows and linux (ie its launched from the browser). It interacts with a java app on a linux server over RMI.
How can I lauch a telnet session from my client app?
Do I have to include apache commons.net and create a telnet module in my app or can i lauch c:\windows\system32\telnet.exe in windows (if my app is lauched on win) and /usr/kerberos/bin/telnet (if my app is lauched in Linux)?
How can I launch an external .exe application in window and how can I launch any shell script or program in Linux?
(same as how do i lauch telnet)
As long as the user is prompted I can see no risk of denying these kind of things so I hope and think that this should be possible!
PS. I have managed to do it by using Runtime.exec() when running as a non JWS application, but I cannot do it when running as JWS:
java.security.AccessControlException: access denied (java.io.FilePermission <<ALL FILES>> execute)I dont want to sign the application either. The reason for choosing webstart was to not have to renew certificates at our customers.
Please help.
Thanks for taking interest and reading this.. and I hope that someone has some helpful answers for me :)
Edited by: Tomas_Andersen on Feb 5, 2008 6:34 AM

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At 07:47 AM 2/18/98 -0500, Martin G Nystrom wrote:
A user can launch an application, then launch it again. How do we make it so
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[email protected] on 02/18/98 10:01:07 PM
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To: [email protected]
cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: How do I keep an application from being started more than
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