Logical flow between User forms and workflows

Hi,
I want to know the logical flow among jsps,UserForms and workflows in IDM.
This may appear as a silly quest. But I want to know how exctly the workflows are getting excuted when we click the buttons on the forms....
For eg While creating the user after gving the user details in Tabbed User form when we click on save how it is calling Create User Workflow....
where is the link and how its happening.....
If any one know this please reply me....this a quest remaining in my mind since so many days....
Thanks in advance....

I dont think, there is any xml codes in any of the forms for calling workflow. One needs to render a form for any workflow. Whenever you hit new User , the create user workflow gets initiated and the form and the default form for create user is Tabbed User Form. activities and forms are mapped according to the authorisation level. If you create any Admin role, then we need to specify a form for the admin's capabilities. I guess for configurator , to create a a new user, the form has to be Tabbed User Form by default. For a custom Lanch user process, one needs to include a form along with the workflow. We can do that. Thats what I know till date.
Thanks,
Manila

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