Logical standby DB with unsupported datatype

Hello,
Has anyone setup the following Data Guard Configuration, although it is not recommended by Oracle:-
Setup a logical standby DB from a Primary DB with unsupported Data Types. I'm need (and want) to save time and effort to configure a database for the purpose of Reporting and avoid Oracle Streams or Change Data Capture or even the new middleware Product Data Integrator
Data is sent from the Productive DB, and with logical standby DB, I (hope) can still get it to run even with unsupported data types using DBMS_LOGSTDBY.SKIP procedure, to skip unwanted and unsupported attributes in the primary DB.
I would appreciate any comments and experience using Logical Standby DB for Reporting Purposes.
regards
Sahba

Hello Anantha,
thanks for your reply.
unfortunately the Productive database uses dartatypes such as DMSYS.SDO_GEOMERTY.
these datatypes are not supported by the Logical standby DB.
I thought, i could skip those tables with such datatypes when applying redodata in the logical standby db, dbms_logstdby.skip procedure allow such mechanism.
the reason why i need logical stndby db ist due to READ/WRITE during apply process. as I mentioned, i need an up-to-date replica of the productive db for reporting purposes, without such tables with unsupported datatpes. because these are tables are not part of the reporting procedure, i thought of skipping them from appling in logical stndby db .
so, has anyone have had any complications with Logical stndby db even when using dbms_logstdby.skip procedure?
are there any other problems encountered with logical stndby db to share here?
thanks
regards
Sahba

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OK, I've finally got around to actually test this and it looks like you are not quite correct Larry in this statement...
'Since this trigger belongs to a new schema that is not controlled by SQL Apply (CSPAN201105) it will fire. But the trigger references a schema that is controlled by SQL Apply (CSPAN) so it will fail because it has to be validated.'
My testing concludes that even though the trigger belongs to a schema CSPAN201105 (not controlled by SQL Apply) and references a schema controlled by SQL Apply - it does not fire. However it DOES need to be valid or it breaks SQL Apply.
My testing was as follows:
Primary DB
Create new EMP table in CSPAN schema on Primary
Create new table TRIGGER_LOG in CSPAN schema on Primary
Create AFTER INSERT/UPDATE trigger on CSPAN.EMP table (that inserts into TRIGGER_LOG table)
**All of the above replicates to Standby**
Standby DB
Create new table TRIGGER_LOG_STNDBY in CSPAN201105 schema on Primary
Create new trigger in CSPAN201105 schema that fires on INSERT/UPDATE on CSPAN.EMP but that inserts into CSPAN201105.TRIGGER_LOG_STNDBY table)
Primary DB
Insert 4 rows into CSPAN.EMP
Update 2 rows in CSPAN.EMP
TRIGGER_LOG table has 6 rows as expected
Standby DB
TRIGGER_LOG table has 6 rows as expected
TRIGGER_LOG_STNDBY table has **0 rows**
Re-create trigger in CSPAN201105 schema that fires on INSERT/UPDATE on CSPAN.EMP but that inserts into CSPAN201105.TRIGGER_LOG_STNDBY table) **but with syntax error**
Primary DB
Update 1 row in CSPAN.EMP
TRIGGER_LOG table has 7 rows as expected
Standby DB
SQL Apply is broken - ORA-04098: trigger 'CSPAN201105.TEST_TRIGGER_TRG' is invalid and failed re-validation

CPU patch procedure with physical and logical standby database in place

Hello All,
I've also placed this in the Upgrades forum, but perhaps this is the best place to have put it.
I'm trying to compile a decent set of steps for applying the CPUOCT2008 patch to our production RAC cluster which has both a logical and physical standby in place. I've read a tonne of documentation, including the CPU readme, DOCID 437276.1 and 278641.1. I''ve also read through the Upgrading Databases in a Data Guard Configuration chapter of Dataguard Concepts and Administration. The last doc mentioned is really for upgrading a full version of Oracle rather than applying a CPU (at least I think that's the case). DocID 437276.1 is rather sparse on details.
I guess what I'm trying to understand is the proper method for applying the patch with the logical standby in place. The physical standby looks pretty straightforward. After running opatch on it as well, it will basically have all of the changes applied to the primary shipped over and applied as per the normal primary/standby relationship. Will the same be true for the logical (having applied the patch, and then re-enabling SQL apply)? Should I aim to have it work that way? By that I mean start it up and re-enable sql apply and then upgrade the primary. Or, am I to apply the catcpu.sql script to it as well before re-enabling the sql apply? Am I wrong in regards to the physical standby as well i.e. should the catcpu also be applied directly to it?
Thanks very much in advance.
Cheers,
Chris
Edited by: chris.baron on Dec 12, 2008 11:38 AM

Given the fact that your system is far from main-stream I'd recommend opening an SR with Oracle Support Services (metalink) and asking them.
If you would like to publish a White Paper on your experience after you have successfully completed the project let me know off-line.

Apply CPUOCT2008 with both a physical and logical standby in place

Hello All,
I'm trying to compile a decent set of steps for applying the CPUOCT2008 patch to our production RAC cluster which has both a logical and physical standby in place. I've read a tonne of documentation, including the CPU readme, DOCID 437276.1 and 278641.1. I''ve also read through the Upgrading Databases in a Data Guard Configuration chapter of Dataguard Concepts and Administration. The last doc mentioned is really for upgrading a full version of Oracle rather than applying a CPU (at least I think that's the case). DocID 437276.1 is rather sparse on details.
I guess what I'm trying to understand is the proper method for applying the patch with the logical standby in place. The physical standby looks pretty straightforward. After running opatch on it as well, it will basically have all of the changes applied to the primary shipped over and applied as per the normal primary/standby relationship. Will the same be true for the logical (having applied the patch, and then re-enabling SQL apply)? Should I aim to have it work that way? By that I mean start it up and re-enable sql apply and then upgrade the primary. Or, am I to apply the catcpu.sql script to it as well before re-enabling the sql apply? Am I wrong in regards to the physical standby as well i.e. should the catcpu also be applied directly to it?
Thanks very much in advance.
Cheers,
Chris

Given the fact that your system is far from main-stream I'd recommend opening an SR with Oracle Support Services (metalink) and asking them.
If you would like to publish a White Paper on your experience after you have successfully completed the project let me know off-line.

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