Looking for tiling + Gnome

I've been looking for an easy to use tiling window manager to use with Gnome. One that doesn't require a lot of configuration. In the past, I have used KDE primarily and really liked the idea of kwin tiling. In fact, kwin tiling is pretty much exactly what I am looking for. I want something that automatically maximizes and tiles according to a chosen layout. Resizing one window resizes the rest of the windows accordingly. I was under the impression that the compiz grid plugin was what I was looking for but unfortunately not. It seems to only be able to place windows in a tile-like format with keyboard shortcuts. I'm looking for something that tiles automatically.
Are there any options out there for me or should I switch back to KDE?

Any window manager can replace gnomes' one so the question I guess is what are the dynamic tiling window managers.
Here is a comparison of the tilers, you'll want one with a text config and dynamic not manual tiling.
A quick perusal would suggest wmfs as being one of the more popular - and there's a healthy thread in here about it.
HTH
Last edited by moetunes (2011-02-13 06:47:28)

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m4co wrote:
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phrakture wrote:
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# http://ozlabs.org/~jk/docs/mergefb/
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elif [ "${dmode}" = connected ];then
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Last edited by originalsurfmex (2013-10-28 20:51:45)

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prog wrote:
ewaller wrote:
prog wrote:Apologies if I have posted this in the incorrect section !
Big brother is watching you
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skottish wrote:
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