Macbook Pro disappointment

I am an Apple User for 5 years now. I've had my first Apple product, Ipod mini (green), during my college years. When Apple releases new products, I made sure I am aware of it and find a way to have it. My father gave me my first Macbook last year and I am really satisfied with it as well as other Apple products (Iphone, IPad, Ipod Touch). Of course, there is always a need for us to upgrade our gadgets. So I decided to get the new improved Macbook Pro. We bought it last year but did not avail the AppleCare for I know that this new Macbook Pro is more versatile and multi-tasker than the Macbook I had. I never had any problems with my Apple products but a few days ago, a thin green line appeared on my screen. I was so disappointed. I asked somebody from the service center here in Manila for what I should do and they said that I need to replace the screen. It drove me mad when they told me the price I had to pay because I no longer have the warranty from Apple. I couldn't believe that this can happen too soon knowing that I have tested the other product (Macbook) and was really happy with it. This laptop was only used for a year and 4 months. It would have been okay if this is not pricey.
I am hoping that Apple would do something about this. And I am hoping that this message will get to their attention.

(1) Unfortunately, these things happen. It is my impression that, on average, the quality of Apple products is slightly above the average, but the average is pretty low these days.
(2) Fixing a notebook computer, irrespective of manufacturer, is always expensive. The parts are flimsier and working with them is trickier and more difficult than with desktop machines.
(3) Fixing Apple computers is always more expensive than fixing another brand. The market share is much smaller, so both parts and labour are more expensive. It's something you need to keep in mind when deciding upon a purchase.
(4) Follow eric grenoble1's advice. Talk to Apple. Perhaps even write them a nice letter, explaining the situation, how much you liked your MBP, what you did with it, and why fixing it is important. Apple is not a charity; it's run like any other corporation, to make money; but sometimes they can appreciate the value of good will. Keep in mind that the higher up the ladder you can manage to reach, the more likely you are to get a helpful answer.
(5) This forum is definitely monitored by Apple (after all, they'd be fools not to, since they are hosting it on their servers!). However, it is monitored for bad language and items that run contrary to Apple policies and interests. It is NOT monitored for customer feedback, customer satisfaction, or to provide customer support. If you post anything here in the hope that "Apple will hear this", IOW, that your words will reach someone of any consequence at Apple, or who can speak on behalf of Apple, you are wasting your time. Utterly.

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    >the video starts to "stutter" and the mouse jumps when i try to move it.
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    Also I'm wondering how people feel about glossy vs matte for music. My current displays are the non-glossy and I do think I prefer them for detail work.
    The candidates right now are
    Hanns-G HH-281HPB 28" @300$. It's one of the only budget monitors that uses 1920x1200. All the right inputs (DVI, VGA). I'm just afraid this might be a bit too good to be true. It's really cheap and after having problems with a "cheap" Acer (although it wasn't so cheap 3 years ago!) I don't want similar problems. Stand has no swivel or tilt (a big problem for my use). Also that resolution on such a big screen might be good for me or it might look grainy I don't know I haven't seen it. Anybody have any experience with these?
    Samsung P2770H 27" @339 Looks nice, good color. Sadly only 1080 native resolution. Stand doesn't swivel, but does tilt. No VGA input, so won't work with my old PC (although strangely it says it comes with a VGA cable). They get generally good reviews and I know Samsung makes very good flat panel TV's.
    ViewSonic X Series VX2739WM 27" @350. Once again maxes out at 1080. It's fast (1ms), has VGA input. I've never been a big fan of ViewSonic but they do seem to have gotten better color-wise. Tilt no swivel and it's anti-glare (not sure this is a plus).
    There are also similar options from HP, Asus, LG and Sceptre but they are all 1080. In fact outside of the Apples, the Hanns-G and a few expensive monitors from NEC they all seem to be 1080. So if I really want the 1200 the Hanns-G seems like the only way to go.
    Any input here would be greatly appreciated.

    No doubt, the Apple displays are gorgeous. The first time I saw the 30" display wow, I wanted one BAD and it's actually what prompted me to buy a "big" monitor. The colors are great with a rich wonderful saturation level and as usual for Apple the form factor design is stunning. You know for that picture quality I could even get over the sticker shock and save up for one.
    Which is why I was so disappointed when I actually sat down in the store and started to use Logic on one. I imagine for doing video work, graphic design or darn near anything else, it would be great. But for Logic I just found myself bending and twisting trying to look at toolbar at the bottom and then up to look at the menus. And instrument or plugin displays that were hard coded to look OK at lower resolutions looked really, really tiny to me. For me and particularly using Logic having 2 slightly smaller displays at a 45 degree angle makes more sense.
    And once again the 24 seems just a bit small. I don't understand why they have a 27" iMac but you can't buy a 27" display. So iMac 27" starting at 1699, subtract out the cost of the CPU and drive ie the Mini and I'd really buy one. Strangely you can buy a 21.5" or a 27" iMac. Or you can buy a 24" or 30" display. Hmmmm.
    So don't get me wrong I'm not bashing Apple for being expensive. They put a lot of money into R&D and into really thinking about the form and the function of their products. As a recent convert from being a PC developer for 25+ years, hey I've more than sipped the Kool-Aid here, I've guzzled it. They make great products and yeah they're more expensive, because they ARE better! I've now got 2 MBP's, 2 iPods, I'm about to get an iPhone (silly "death grip" or not) and I really want an iPad. Heck I'd really love an 8 core MacPro if I could afford one (alas I can't).
    I guess my only gripe here is that there always seems to be a little less choice in the Apple world. Yeah, I know they do a lot less volume than the PC clone world I just think that they always seem to have a big gap between the high end and low end with not enough in between. So you can choose between the lower end and one piece units with no expansion boards (the mini or the iMac) or go straight to monster tower MacPro (way over 3K with display). You can get a MacBook but then you have to put up with a small screen or go with MacBook Pro, which let's face it is a lot of computing power for someone who just wants to web surf and write some email without squinting.
    So here I am stuck in the middle. I don't want to buy a HannspreeQG or another piece of junk that's going to last 3 years and 3 months because of a crappy $2 capacitor that no seems to able to fix or care about fixing. I'd like to buy a really nice Apple monitor, I just want a big monitor, not a huge one and not a "medium" one (I know I'm spoiled but 24" seems "medium" these days).
    Sorry about the rant here but my monitor is shutting down every 30 seconds and I'm about to go completely insane and toss it out the window!!!
    Really glad to hear about that 84' VGA cable. I never imagined such a thing existed or would work without some sort of signal boost on the way. Very cool for me. My electronic drum kit is in another room and I would love to have a small cheap monitor next to it for sequencing. I had my laptop on a stand next to it for a while but I began to get terrified that I'd let a drumstick slip and destroy my laptop screen. That would be a very bad thing. Thanks for the tip.

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