Making graphics

Hi!
I`m very beginner and I would like to know how can I make models?For example a cube,which I can move in the program?Where can I read about this.I don`t understand the official articles.I use j2sdk1.4.2_08 .Thanks for all help.

There is an on-line tutorial:
http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/2d/index.html
This book is an introduction to the 2D API:
Java 2D Graphics, by Jonathan Knudsen, published by O'Reilly.

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Making graphic components clickable

Hi, new Java programmer here. I'd like to be able to draw rectangles into a JPanel and make them listen for mouseclicks. My only clue is that I need to descend them from a class that has an addActionListener method, like a button, but efforts so far haven't been successful.
Can anyone show me how to create a rectangle object that will react to mouse click events? Thanks very much in advance.

Working on JN_ 's advice I decided to have a go at it. Hope this helps:
import javax.swing.*;
import java.awt.event.*;
import java.awt.*;
public class Test
     public static void main(String[] args) throws Exception
          new Test();
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          JFrame frame = new JFrame();
          frame.setContentPane(getPanel());
          frame.setSize(300,300);
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          frame.setVisible(true);
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class MyPanel extends JPanel
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     Color col = Color.BLUE;
     MyPanel()
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          if (e.getID() == MouseEvent.MOUSE_CLICKED)
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                         System.out.println("green");
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                         System.out.println("blue");
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Animated gif rollover

i've created an animated gif in fireworks i want to create a
rollover button within fireworks then export the animated gif with
rollover into fireworks. i seem to be doing something wrong, i've
created the rollover button but it isn't showing up in preview in
fireworks or showing when exported dreamweaver. any idea how to fix
it? many thanks

If you're using Dreamweaver, the easiest thing is to do your
rollovers there. Export your two images from Fireworks, then use
Dreamweaver's menu:
Insert > Image Objects > Rollover Image
It's a snap.
Fireworks is a graphics program that can export HTML for
mockups and prototypes. It is not a visual Web development tool.
When you switch from making graphics to making pages, switch from
FW to DW.

How to place a table of contents at the end of a document?

I know how to design a table of contents at the beginning of a Pages document.
I'd like to place a table of contents at the end of a long Pages book.
Is there any simple trick to place a table of contents at the end of a Pages document?
<pre>--------
As long as you'll see students making graphics with pen on paper,
you'll see the missing keystone of the software empire.
dan</pre>

fruhulda wrote:
The Table of Contents (TOC) has to be in front of the Chapters it create a TOC from. There is a work around this, but do it first after you have finished the document because you'll loose the automatic update of the TOC.
Thank you for your attempt to help.
With TextEdit I loose the formatting of the TOC.
I found another workaround, I made a printing of the TOC and saved it
as PDF and included it within an empty page. But this method isn't
really a simple workaround.
The conclusion is that there isn't any easy way to place a TOC
where you want.
<pre>--------
As long as you'll see students making graphics with pen on paper,
you'll see the missing keystone of the software empire.
dan</pre>

I'm thinking about converting from a PC to a Mac but....

Okay so the laptop i have right now is a Toshiba Satellite PC. I do love it to death but I hate that there are a million and a half viruses for it >.< I'm getting into Graphic Design and computer gaming more. Right now I have a ton of PC software and I've heard that Mac can read almost all software. So I'm wondering if some of my PC only games will run on a Mac as long as it has Windows XP on it? The only reason I'm asking is because I'm about to buy a small bundle in Adobe Web Bundle..My possible future Mac will be farther along before I buy one. I'm a college student so I want to wait, save, and try to buy it myself. SO I guess my question is....would it be worth it for me since I have soooo much PC software..<br>
>.> a PC Windows XP

well I don't hardcore game or anything but I do play online games (I.E. Guild Wars, World of Warcraft, Black and White)My newest passion has been making graphics...hence why i'm getting the adobe web bundle ...I love computers and my boyfriend is also into computers. He was going to college for computers but he's not sure if thats what he truely wants to do with his life. That's why I'm asking about switching over to a Mac. The Mac I want is the really nice black one...mmm...but since I just bought this computer last year it's going to be a very long while until i get my desktop Mac (saddness). So I won't need any other software to install the PC programs? Like something other than xp. I don't really need to worry about losing my discount because my mom is also an educator so either way I et my discount =D
>.> a Pc Windows XP

How to stop table columns widths from drifting

I discovered that all the columns widths of my tables change on their own,
leading me with tables of different columns widths where I wanted to
maintain a strong cohesion of presentation among them.
Here is a scenario to reproduce and understand the problem:
• create a new Pages'08 document;
• insert a Table;
the 3 columns of this newly created table are 5.49 cm width each.
Problematic case:
• change the first column width with:<pre> Table > Table > Column Width > 5 cm</pre> and hit return
• the column width will switch to 5.01 cm
• the 2 other columns widths will have switched to 5.50 cm.
Is there a technique, I didn't find yet, to define a table column to a
fixed value so that Pages'08 won't make it drift and wont touch to
other columns width?
<pre>--------
As long as you'll see students making graphics with pen on paper,
you'll see the missing keystone of the software empire.
dan</pre>

Peter, Fruhulda, thank you for your analysis and confirmation.
PeterBreis0807 wrote:
daniel
I have noticed the same thing and have given up on it.
It's a mess.
I can't say it more politely .
Let Apple know:
-> https://bugreport.apple.com/
<pre>--------
As long as you'll see students making graphics with pen on paper,
you'll see the missing keystone of the software empire.
dan</pre>

Adobe Photoshop CS4 and GIMP Help

I think I am fairly computer literate and I enjoy trying things out before having to consult with the owners manual but two programs that absolutely stump me are Adobe and Gimp. I hope I am in the right area because I need help understanding how to use either of those programs on my macbook. I would like to make simple website banners and myspace type comment boxes and i've had such a hard time comprehending those programs. I've done many google searches for tutorials and majority of them teach on a level of intermediate users. I've never used either program.
Or if anyone knows of a simple banner making program, please enlighten me.

demetracaston wrote:
I would like to make simple website banners and myspace type comment boxes and i've had such a hard time comprehending those programs. I've done many google searches for tutorials and majority of them teach on a level of intermediate users. I've never used either program.
It is true that the use of a specific program not made by Apple is well outside the scope of this particular forum, although it isn't wrong to ask around. (For example, if someone has an Apple Aperture question, you don't ask it here, you ask it in the Aperture forum, even though Aperture runs on OS X.)
It sounds like you might actually want to pick up a book about the basics of digital painting programs in general. When making graphics as simple as web banners, the functions provided by Photoshop and GIMP are so standard that other programs imitate them. Meaning if you don't have those down yet, you'll have trouble with any program you try. If you have problems understanding these core functions at an intermediate level, you probably should take some tutorials at a basic level, like the QuickStart guides or Classroom in a Book type of guides (I'm thinking of the printed books of this type), hopefully some concentrating on web graphics.
If we were to lay out what to do in Photoshop or GIMP to make a web banner, it would be: Make a new document the size of the allotted space on the web page, in pixels. Use the type tool and graphics tools to create the banner graphics. Save a copy of the document in the web file format required for insertion into the web page.
If you need more details than that, you do need more grounding than should be provided in a forum that's intended to discuss an operating system.

Frameshifts from Page Mill not displayed same way in DW CS5.5

I currently have a very large website that I created about 13 years ago with Adobe Page Mill, and have been maintaining ever since with Page Mill. The site has about 1,121 pages plus 277 images – about 221 MB altogether. There are lots of inter-page links and links to other websites.
My home page has a frameset consisting of one full-width top frame, with two column frames below. In Dreamweaver CS5.5’s Live View and Firefox preview, it looks fine, and all hotlinks seem to be working. But in Design display, the lower right frame has shifted to just below the lower left frame, but on the right side.
I hope I don’t have to completely remake this page (and others with similar framesets). Is there any way to bring that lower right frame up alongside the lower left frame in the Design view, so it looks more like it’s supposed to?
Larry

Tried to shift to Adobe's *InDesign* several years ago
But that's a print graphics app and wouldn't help you at all with web development.
The site is very popular with teachers (getting 3k to 6k hits
every month, with lots of positive feedback, no mention of problems with the
site.
Nobody would ever know that the ranking system you have there will not work at all. It does nothing. There is no form to submit. You click the button and nothing gets submitted.
But I am about to train a teacher colleague about the site and how to
maintain it so we can share the management of the site. For this, I felt I
needed to bite the bullet and learn Dreamweaver, which meant getting a new
Intel-based iMac.
What you need to learn is *NOT* DW, it's HTML and CSS. With a fair understanding of that, you can teach yourself DW in a long weekend. But for sure, if you are going to try to teach someone else how to maintain the site, you'd better make sure that the code is right, otherwise it'll break constantly and will drive you and your colleague nuts. I'd say the code status at the moment is "dreadfully close to unacceptable".
You mentioned that my Home page is not framed. Page Mill called this a page
with a frameset – a set of three frames. Apparently they are called
something else (or not recognized as such) by the current HTML. What ARE
those things that look like frames?
HTML tables.
Actually, I was incorrect. The pages
with framesets are mostly the index pages, like this one:
http://www.indiana.edu/~ensiweb/evol.fs.html
Yes - that's a frameset allright - and it's straight out of the crypt!
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="Adobe PageMill 3.0 Mac">
<TITLE>ENSI/SENSI Lesson List: Evolution</TITLE>
</HEAD>
<FRAMESET FRAMEBORDER=1 COLS="129,444">
<FRAME SRC="inevo.fr.html" NAME="inevo.fr.html" MARGINWIDTH=2>
<FRAME SRC="evol.f.html" NAME="main.fr.html" MARGINWIDTH=2 MARGINHEIGHT=2>
<NOFRAMES>
<BODY>
Viewing this page requires a browser capable of displaying frames.
</BODY>
</NOFRAMES>
</FRAMESET>
</HTML>
(eww - I feel so dirty)
You asked me if I wanted to see it we can fix it. I definitely do want to
bring it up to date, but with the size of the site, it sounds very daunting.
First of all, are there short cuts that could hasten the process? Would it
be possible to transfer content to a CSS format? The fact that there are so
many links between different pages makes me think that the job would take
huge amounts of time. This is not a money-making site for me – I just
maintain it for the love of sharing good stuff with teachers. So would
there be a charge for helping me through this process? Or would it better
to pay a professional to do this, and if so, what would it cost me? I’m
happy to see the repaired Home page – but how long did it take to do this?
Would links still work (with the page back in the site folder with all the
other pages and images)? Is there some sort of program that does this kind
of “repair work?” Or does it require going into the code and performing
corrective surgery manually? One thing I never bothered with was making
graphic “buttons” for navigation purposes – so I’d like to include them with
the revised version.
* It will be daunting.
* There are NO shortcuts.
* It will be possible to transfer the content to a CSS layout - one page at a time.
* I would have to charge for helping you with this. But we could negotiate the charge offline.
* Hiring a professional would be the best idea yet.
* It took me about 30 minutes to figure out what was wrong with your home page, and then to fix it. Having done that once, similar pages would go faster.
* Links would still work - I didn't touch them.
* There is no such program for "repair work" - corrective surgery is best performed by building a NEW, stable page, and cutting and pasting content into it.
* Graphic buttons are not necessary - CSS styled text is perfectly adequate.
I really appreciate your help in this!
I like what you are doing!

Gradient banding in Samsung 20 inch LCD

Now idk where to begin, ok here's the best info i can give
I just assembled a new pc for graphic work/budget gaming 2 days ago:
intel core i3 530 mhz
2 gb ddr3 ram 1333 mhz
xfx nvidia geforce gt 240 1gb ddr5
windows 7 ultimate 32-bit
Samsung Myst Eco B2030 widescreen 20 inch lcd monitor
Now when i opened an old psd which contained some brushing and gradients, i could see bands in the gradients, even the wallpaper i put had bands on it. I even noticed that everything on my lcd looks hellish sharp, and when i force my head really close, i can see small square pixels all over the l cd. Is it due to the analogue output(VGA)?, should i switch to DVI?
I use 1600x900 res (native) at 32 bit
Then to test whether all gradients look the same, i opened a new ps document and made a black to white gradient, but it was smooth, there were no bands in there. But when i made a simple white box, applied full gaussian blur, and zoomed in around 2000% i could see the gradual bands again though not as bad as in the colored psd. It seems the problem only happens when i give a glow, or blurs. Then i played Splinter Cell Conviction (everything Maxed out) and again i could see gradient bands forming up in dark places, like when i die and a small cutscene is played, i could see gradient bands on the 4 corners. What could be the problem, is it the card? the lcd? i am new to lcd monitors so i dont know how to calibrate or whatever.
Please check if anyone else can see the bands on their lcd?

Regarding calibrating your display, it's not strictly necessary, but you did mention "oversaturation" in a post above. It's certainly your call whether you want to make your color-managed applications put out calibrated color.
Re switching to DVI, that's falling out of favor... How are you currently cabled to your monitor? HDMI? VGA? You've mentioned both. DVI would CERTAINLY be better than VGA.
This "Coarse effect" you speak of... Are you talking about jaggy fonts, or what? If so, do you have Font Smoothing enabled?
When I first switched from CRTs to LCDs (in 2004) I marveled that most graphics created by people using CRTs were actually butt ugly, simply because they could not see the actual image content very clearly and tended to overlook things and overcompensate for their own monitors' shortcomings.
On a good LCD using a good interface (DVI or better) you can see every pixel as a discreet element. That's a given.
After my switch from CRT to LCD I had to reset my perceptions - I had thoughts just like yours! After a while you start to realize that what may look oversharp and harsh to you may even still be too subtle for CRT users. For some time there's been a mix of CRTs and LCDs in the world, though honestly lately I've started to ignore the former as they are truly a dying breed (just try to buy a new CRT monitor nowadays). It is not wrong to concentrate solely on making graphics look good on ultra sharp LCD monitors. Don't be too hard on yourself for what you've produced in the past, when you couldn't "see clearly" yet.
That said, I should note that there are some LCDs that are not sharp at all. From time to time people post on this forum that they have trouble seeing the Photoshop UI elements at their fixed small size, and as you're no doubt aware now with your monitor there's really no problem seeing them on a very sharp display.
You could try taking a macro photo of what you're seeing on your display that you don't like. Other than that it's very difficult to communicate about such issues on a forum.
-Noel

Lighting advice for editing

When using a display and a monitor, what type of lighting is best to use when editing and making graphics in PS for FCP? Is there a particular type of lighting that is recommended for properly illuminating a display to give accurate color info?
Thanks.

what type of lighting
tungsten halogen mini spot lights-you can buy a cheap spotlight kit from a DIY store fit them on the ceiling directly above the desk-dont use fluorescent lights -they will cause flickering looking at the screen - many people get headaches with fluorescents anyway
recommended for properly illuminating a display
you don't illuminate the display you illuminate the desk shading the display to prevent reflections
buy an office or an edit desk with a medium grey colour
for very accurate work you can paint the walls white or light grey
there is an IBU spec for grade 1 edit workstation which is along the lines of the above

Can I make the little white box with the cross in it disappear?

Layout mode. There is a tiny little square with cross in it, at bottom of text box. Cool. Sometimes it's there, sometimes it's not.
Is there a way to make that little box disappear? So I can view the page as it will print out? I'm making graphic images with LOTS of those little text boxes ... it's hard to judge the final layout with all those little squares with crosses in them.
Ben

Hi,
The + is shorthand for "There is extra material contained in this text box that you can't see." To make the cross go away you need to increase the size of the box. Just to make things a bit more confusing, sometimes the "extra" material is the default text that is replaced by text you type into the box. Thus while you "know" that there is no text in the box not currently showing if you take a look you'll find placeholder text put there by Pages.
Best,
Win

Apple Remote Desktop serial number never memorized

I just installed Apple Remote Desktop on a new computer.
Here are my versions:
– MacOS X 10.6.4;
– ARD 3.3.2.
Everytime I start ARD,
my "Name:" and "Organization:"
fields are as correctly filled as I did it on the first
time.
But the field "Serial Number:" is empty, when I enter it
correctly everytime.
Where is this useless checking coming from?
How may I get rid of such a checking window?
<pre>--------
As long as you'll see students making graphics with pen on paper,
you'll see the missing keystone of the software empire.
dan</pre>

Templeton Peck wrote:
Search this forum for "serial number"
You'll find your question has been asked and answered many times already.
Thank you for the hint.
There were many problems with the exact same
symptoms which didn't end with a clear resolved status in many different
discussions groups.
Thank you for puting this discussion in the right one I missed .
I tried the usual search through time modification of
files and discovered that an empty session of ARD was at first
accessing:<pre>
/Library/Preferences/com.apple.RemoteDesktop.plist</pre>
Hence I did a:<pre>
rm /Library/Preferences/com.apple.RemoteDesktop.plist</pre>
After 2 restarts, ARD did remember my serial number .
<pre>--------
As long as you'll see students making graphics with pen on paper,
you'll see the missing keystone of the software empire.
dan</pre>

How to rotate a large table

I'm building a long technical report with Pages'08.
There are many tables in this report.
This document is in portrait format.
In the middle of this document I have a particularly large
table which can't be read if I try to stay on a portrait
presentation of this table: too many columns (15).
Hence I'd like to find an easy way to either rotate
the page or the table so as to be able to use larger
columns.
I discovered that Pages'08 doesn't permit to put one
page in landscape format. I also abandonned the idea of
using 3 different documents (part 1 in portrait,
part 2 in landscape, part 3 in portrait again).
I have to chain the paragraph numbers.
I have to make a table of content at the end of
this technical report.
What is the most efficient way to manage to fill this large
table.
Word let me do this, but unfortunately it does also
make me spend toomuch time on other simple and basic functions.
Is Pages'09 better on this basic and frequent need (at least for my job)?
<pre>--------
As long as you'll see students making graphics with pen on paper,
you'll see the missing keystone of the software empire.
dan</pre>

Peggy wrote:
You can rotate a floating table, but it can be a problem if you need to edit the table. It will auto-rotate to portrait to edit it but it can be difficult to see or get to the outside edges. I find it easiest to copy & paste the table into a landscape document the copy it back after editing.
Thank you for the nice hint.
I finally choosed to work on a temporary document in A3 format,
and keep it open so as to be able to quickly copy my table in the
main document every time I update it.
During this copy operation I noticed a boring problem:
as the text column in my main document is slightly smaller than my table,
Pages decide to shrink it every time, and I can't recover it's
original size (which I penibly tuned up in my A3 document).
Hence all the cell contents are partially hidden.
The button:
Inspector > Metrics > Original Size
is off.
Do you know how to circumvent this bad habit of Pages to resize my
imported table?
<pre>--------
As long as you'll see students making graphics with pen on paper,
you'll see the missing keystone of the software empire.
dan</pre>

CS4 to CS6 upgrade?

I don't think there's anything that can be done at this point, but I figured I'd post anyway since calling in didn't help.
I bought CS4 2 years ago after considering it for a while because I had heard it was the best imaging program and I wanted to finally try it, even though I'm only a hobbyist. I ended up really loving it and using it a lot. Back in February, I saw a lot of articles online talking about how CS6 was coming out in a few months, how it was a really big improvement over 5, and really worth switching over. So I started thinking about upgrading. One of the articles I saw explained how if you buy the newest version of Photoshop shortly before the next version comes out, you can then upgrade to the current version for free. Although I certainly didn't need CS5 right away because CS6 was supposed to come out in a few months, thought it might be interesting to see the differences between it and CS6 (when it finally came out) and I was curious about the content aware scale tool. So I went to the Adobe website, to find out more about the "complimentary upgrade", as it was phrased on the Adobe website. The page on adobe.com explained how it worked, but it didn't have any information on CS6, dates, or how close to the release you had to be to qualify- It said you should contact customer service with your registration number and they could tell you.
So I logged onto the Customer Service/ Sales chat on Adobe.com so I could ask. I told the support agent that I had CS4, was interested in upgrading to CS6 which was coming out soon, and that I wanted to know more about how the complimentary upgrade worked, and if it was in effect yet because the Adobe website didn't have any information. The Adobe agent told me that if I upgraded now, I would be eligible for the complimentary upgrade when CS6 was released, and that in fact, it would be better for me to upgrade now instead of waiting, because they currently had a promotion where there was a 20% discount on upgrading, and that if I waited until CS6 came out I would have to pay more for an upgrade. I asked them straight out if I should upgrade at that time, and they said yes. So I thanked the customer service person, and went ahead and bought an upgrade package the next day.
A few weeks later, I went onto Adobe.com to see if there was any new information on CS6, since I had seen even more articles and was really excited. I found out at that point that the customer service agent lied to me, and that the upgrade I bought on March 1st was not eligible for an upgrade to CS6 unless I paid another $200 on top of the $150 I paid a few weeks before. And no, I didn't screencap the chat, which apparently I was supposed to- why would I have? It never even crossed my mind that a Adobe employee would flat out lie to me, which I guess what a stupid assumption on my part. But there is absolutely no logical reason I would have chosen to upgrade to CS5 2 months before CS6 would be out instead of just waiting, unless that Adobe sales representative had told me to not to worry, that I was eligible for a complimentary upgrade to CS6 and to go ahead and upgrade now with this "special discount". Everybody knew that it was coming, and there was even an announcement assuring people that you would still be able to upgrade straight to 6 even if you didn't have CS5 yet. I understand that a sales agent job is to make you buy the product, but I think it's horrible and unprofessional to lie to people to make a sale. I also wonder how many other customers were tricked like me in the hopes of making more money.
When I called in customer service, they repeatedly asked for "proof", of my conversation which of course they didn't have, since I had assumed the chat agents were honest and wouldn't give out false information. The very understanding customer service person then told me they would look into it and call me back. A day later, I got a robo "do not reply" email telling me that my request had been rejected, but thanks and have a nice day. Great.
I mean, I do understand that my business isn't that important because I'm just a hobbyist and not a company buying like 100 licenses, but in the past two years I've spent basically the same amount of money on the program which as I paid for my computer. Other than my computer, this program is basically the most expensive thing I own. I justified buying it to myself because I really enjoy photo editing and making graphics and art and it's the "professional", top of the line program, but after this I'm wondering why, if I'm not a professional making money off of graphic design, while I should be giving a ton of money to a company that's not even going to give me good customer service for this purchase. Never mind this new Cloud service- why on earth would I give Adobe money every single month, when I gave them money once and they messed it up?
There's nothing I can do at this point, right, now that I've called customer service and posted here? (Except stop buying Adobe products, which I already plan to do.)

Those guys don't "lie", sometimes they simply are not properly briefed. Most of them are, after all, just some poor saps in India. The rest is neither here nor there - this is a user forum and if you have any issues with sales, then we can't help you. I personally understand your frustrations, but the earliest official announcement for the "free" CS6 I remember was some time in April, so that tracks. Other than that the really important question becomes, whether you actually do need CS6. Even as a professional to me this many times is a thing of "would be nice, but it's not a must have" for many of the features, so unless you have your eyes on a specific feature, it's probably better to not get too crazy over the matetr and instead rationalyl figure out a plan if and when you may upgrade to CS6 or whatever at a later point...
Mylenium

Is Dreamweaver the best web design software to learn for an aspiring web designer?

Hi Everyone,
Perhaps difficult to get an unbiased answer to this in a
Dreamweaver forum but I'm sure most of you considered other web
development software before you went with Dreamweaver. Of course
the answer is not as straight forward as just choosing one piece of
software over another. I understand that there isn't really one
piece of software that ticks every box for the web designer. What I
mean is that there isn't one standalone piece of software that's
best for web design (HTML, CSS etc.), graphics and animation etc.
and that's why we have things such as Adobe Creative Suite. Anyway,
sticking to web design and development in the Dreamweaver sense,
would I be correct to advise someone who wants to work in the field
of web design to use Dreamweaver as their main tool? Particularly,
I would be interested to know if Dreamweaver really is the industry
standard as it's important to consider future job prospects.
I hope you understand what I'm asking.
Thanks, in anticipation for your help.
P.S. Has anyone heard of Enterprise Works?

LOL... sure!
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>>> "P@tty Ayers ~ACE"
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>>>>
>>>> "SnakEyez02"
<[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> John, Murray's point, which I do agree
with is that you cannot
>>>>> "design" with
>>>>> Dreamweaver. Designing is where someone
comes up with the initial
>>>>> graphics for
>>>>> the website.
>>>>
>>>> Ok, but you're using the English word
"design" according to a limited,
>>>> secondary meaning. The word "design" has a
much wider meaning than just
>>>> "making graphics". As you can see from the
standard dictionary
>>>> definition I posted earlier, the primary
meaning of the word "design"
>>>> is "to create, fashion, execute, or
construct according to plan". Using
>>>> this most common meaning of the word,
Dreamweaver most definitely is
>>>> software whose purpose is accurately
described as "web design".
>>>>
>>>> It is true, of course, that Dreamweaver
doesn't create graphics. But
>>>> it's inaccurate to say that it doesn't
design web pages. You can easily
>>>> *design* web pages in Dreamweaver without
ever creating a single
>>>> graphic yourself.
>>>>
>>>> I'm just saying. :-)
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Dreamweaver cannot do the graphics
manipulation and it does not
>>>>> have the design tools that are available
in Fireworks and Photoshop.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dreamweaver can place the image slices
into a layout and use CSS for
>>>>> repeating-backgrounds and so forth, but
the process really starts in
>>>>> one of the
>>>>> mentioned applications. So what he is
trying to say is that the page
>>>>> is
>>>>> designed in Fireworks or Photoshop, but
then Dreamweaver turns that
>>>>> design into
>>>>> HTML for a working webpage.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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