MP really heats up in target disk mode

I understand that, since my computer is not controlled by OS when in Target Disk Mode, the fans will run to prevent overheating.
What I don't understand is, why does the machine actually start running so hot, when I'm not engaging the RAM, processors, video, etc. Is there anything I can do?
I can't measure internal temp, because it's in target disk mode, but it feels as hot as if I'm compressing video, running large audio apps, crunching Flash, etc.

Maybe this won't help you, but rather than run it in FW Target Mode, the setup I use is quite simply have the Mac Pro Quad and the PPC G5 Quad Power Mac on the same Ethernet network, and I can access each of them indistictly from either one. 
The temperatures remain very cool in both machines, as measured by Hardware Monitor on each computer.
The two machines share the same keyboard, mouse and tablet through a simple USB switch, and the dual, side-by-side monitors have front panels input switches, so the two machines share them too.
Since I have no clue as to why you use FW Target Mode, it's entirely possible my arrangement would be of no use to you.
In any case, just my ¢2.

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  • Can Target Disk Mode be run from an external hard drive?

    Hi
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  • Installing in Firewire Target Disk mode

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    Oh, and let me say a quick "hi" to all the regulars. I haven't really been on this baord too much the past year or so. Who's still around?

    Hi, Trey.
    I installed Tiger via Target Disk Mode, but my G3 has been having kernel panics in the couple weeks since the upgrade. On another post someone said that they'd heard that the Target Disc Mode can be a problem. So I'm checking the posts to find out more.
    My G3 has a CD-R/W drive, so I didn't have an alternative, other than to buy an external drive, or to send Apple my commercial Tiger DVDs and pay them MORE to convert it to CDs. I just paid big bucks for the G5 a month before they came out with a cheaper upgraded version, which I am unhappy about. Of course those Tiger disks are for G5 ONLY, so I couldn't install to my G3 from them, so I coughed up the cash for the DVDs. I couldn't fathom giving them even more for a CD transfer.
    Of course, if the G3 keeps crashing, and I hear from others that a direct install from CD may cure the problem, what choice will I have? As much as I've loved Apple over the years, there's starting to be a more corporate (and dare I say it, Gates-like) vibe from their method of doing business. Now the kid wants an iPod for Christmas, and I have to check those boards to see how they're performing. As helpful and fun as all this technology is, it is also quite stress-inducing...
    Good luck with your upgrade! --kat
    iMac G5 20" (ALS); 2G RAM | iMac G3 500MHz slot-load CD-R/W CRT; 1G RAM   Mac OS X (10.4.3)   Using Apple since IIe, and Macs since 1984
    iMac G5 20" (ALS); 2G RAM | iMac G3 500MHz; slot-load CD-RW; 1G RAM   Mac OS X (10.4.3)   Using Apple since IIe, and Macs since 1984

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