Mutating Trigger.
Hi all.
I am trying to get around the mutating trigger error when having a trigger on a table that updates the same table.
What I have done so far is:
1. create a package that will store the :new values.
2. I then use a BEFORE trigger to populate these values.
3. I then have an after trigger that calls a stored procedure which updates the table.
Here is the code so far. I thought this was the way to avoid mutating triggers. I must have missed something.
Hope someone can point out the mistake.
Thanks a lot
superkav
create or replace package postcode_update_pkg
as type address_type is table of tocpostaladdress.address1%type
index by binary_integer;
pcval tocpostaladdress.c%type;
pival tocpostaladdress.i%type;
newaddress1 tocpostaladdress.address1%type;
newaddress2 tocpostaladdress.address2%type;
newaddress3 tocpostaladdress.address3%type;
newaddress4 tocpostaladdress.address4%type;
newaddress5 tocpostaladdress.address5%type;
newaddress6 tocpostaladdress.address6%type;
newaddress7 tocpostaladdress.address7%type;
end;
create or replace trigger postaladdress_before
before insert or update
OF ADDRESS1 ,ADDRESS2 ,ADDRESS3 ,ADDRESS4 ,ADDRESS5 ,ADDRESS6 ,ADDRESS7
on tocpostaladdress
for each row
declare
tpcval tocpostaladdress.c%type := :new.c;
tpival tocpostaladdress.i%type := :new.i;
tnewaddress1 tocpostaladdress.address1%type := :new.address1;
tnewaddress2 tocpostaladdress.address2%type := :new.address2;
tnewaddress3 tocpostaladdress.address3%type := :new.address3;
tnewaddress4 tocpostaladdress.address4%type := :new.address4;
tnewaddress5 tocpostaladdress.address5%type := :new.address5;
tnewaddress6 tocpostaladdress.address6%type := :new.address6;
tnewaddress7 tocpostaladdress.address7%type := :new.address7;
begin
postcode_update_pkg.pcval := tpcval;
postcode_update_pkg.pival := tpival;
postcode_update_pkg.newaddress1 := tnewaddress1;
postcode_update_pkg.newaddress2 := tnewaddress2;
postcode_update_pkg.newaddress3 := tnewaddress3;
postcode_update_pkg.newaddress4 := tnewaddress4;
postcode_update_pkg.newaddress5 := tnewaddress5;
postcode_update_pkg.newaddress6 := tnewaddress6;
postcode_update_pkg.newaddress7 := tnewaddress7;
end;
create or replace trigger postaladdress_after
after insert or update
OF ADDRESS1 ,ADDRESS2 ,ADDRESS3 ,ADDRESS4 ,ADDRESS5 ,ADDRESS6 ,ADDRESS7
on tocpostaladdress
for each row
begin
update_postcode(postcode_update_pkg.pcval,postcode_update_pkg.pival,postcode_update_pkg.newaddress1,postcode_update_pkg.newaddress2,postcode_update_pkg.newaddress3,postcode_update_pkg.newaddress4,postcode_update_pkg.newaddress5,postcode_update_pkg.newaddress6,postcode_update_pkg.newaddress7) ;
end;
/
Which table is your update_postcode procedure updating? Assuming that it is tocpostaladdress -
1. You have a BEFORE INSERT or UPDATE trigger on tocpostaladdress.
2. You also have an AFTER INSERT or UPDATE trigger on this table.
Inside your AFTER trigger, you call a procedure which updates the same table.
Now it should be fairly obvious that this procedure re-triggers your first trigger (ie BEFORE UPDATE), and again after updating the table, it recursively calls the same trigger (ie AFTER UPDATE)?
Which means that this will result in mutation.
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http://asktom.oracle.com/pls/asktom/ASKTOM.download_file?p_file=6551198119097816936
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ORA-04091: is mutating, trigger/function may not see
I am getting this error
ORA-04091: table SATURN.SARQUAN is mutating, trigger/function may not see it
ORA-06512: at "BANINST1.F_GETSARQUANSEQNO", line 24
ORA-06512: at "BANINST1.F_GETSARQUANSEQNO", line 30
I am trying to do this insert
INSERT INTO sarquan
(sarquan_pidm,sarquan_term_code_entry,sarquan_seqno,
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sarquan_answer, sarquan_activity_date,
sarquan_user_id
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'Would you prefer September admission?',
DECODE (szcasup_sept_adm, 'Y', 'Yes', 'N', 'No'),sysdate,'rmanoei'
FROM saturn_midd.szcasup, saturn.spriden
WHERE spriden_id = szcasup_common_appl_id
AND spriden_ntyp_code = 'CAPP'
AND ( szcasup_sept_adm IS NOT NULL
OR szcasup_feb_adm IS NOT NULL
OR szcasup_interview IS NOT NULL
AND NOT EXISTS (
SELECT *
FROM sarquan
WHERE sarquan_pidm = spriden_pidm
AND spriden_ntyp_code = 'CAPP'
AND sarquan_term_code_entry = '201090');
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I got data when I select from this function
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ORA-06512: at "BANINST1.F_GETSARQUANSEQNO", line 30
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when I do the following
I know that this pidm does not have any records in the table SARQUAN
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the sequence go by pidm
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sarquan_seqno,
sarquan_term_code_entry,
sarquan_appl_no,
sarquan_question,
sarquan_answer,
sarquan_activity_date,
sarquan_user_id
SELECT spriden_pidm,'1',
'201090','1',
'Would you prefer September admission?',
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FROM saturn_midd.szcasup, saturn.spriden
WHERE spriden_id = szcasup_common_appl_id
AND spriden_ntyp_code = 'CAPP'
and spriden_pidm = 2287953
AND ( szcasup_sept_adm IS NOT NULL
OR szcasup_feb_adm IS NOT NULL
OR szcasup_interview IS NOT NULL
AND NOT EXISTS (
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FROM saturn.sarquan
WHERE sarquan_pidm = spriden_pidm
AND spriden_ntyp_code = 'CAPP'
AND sarquan_term_code_entry = '201090');
Edited by: peace4all on Aug 13, 2009 5:35 AM -
How to get around ora-ORA-04091: table SSBOSS.SSTRMAST is mutating, trigger
hi,
Does anyone know how one would get around this problem please ?
Here is my dbase trig:
CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER SSBOSS.new_not_greater_than_net
BEFORE INSERT OR UPDATE OF newrent ON SSBOSS.SSTRMAST
REFERENCING NEW AS new OLD AS old
FOR each row
DECLARE
not_permitted EXCEPTION;
vnum number := ssboss.nik_f;
BEGIN
IF :new.NEWRENT > vnum then
--AND :old.DELETED = 'N' THEN
RAISE not_permitted;
END IF;
EXCEPTION
WHEN not_permitted THEN
RAISE_APPLICATION_ERROR
(-20001, 'NEWRENT:'||:new.newrent||' '||'OLDRENT:'||' '||:old.netrent||'Action not permitted. Contribution (sstrmast.newrent) value '
||:new.NEWRENT
||' exceeds GROSS rental value (sstrmast.netrent) ');
END;
Here is my problem:
SQL> update sstrmast set newrent = 11;
update sstrmast set newrent = 11
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-04091: table SSBOSS.SSTRMAST is mutating, trigger/function may not see it
ORA-06512: at "SSBOSS.NIK_F", line 4
ORA-06512: at "SSBOSS.NEW_NOT_GREATER_THAN_NET", line 4
ORA-04088: error during execution of trigger 'SSBOSS.NEW_NOT_GREATER_THAN_NET'
I understand why but not how to correct?
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Rgding ORA-04091:table PURCHSE_DTL is mutating,trigger/function maynot c it
I wrote a trigger 'TRG_PURCHASE_DTL' to update the stock table 'BRANCH_ITEM_STOCK' based on the DML actions perfomed on tables PURCHASE_DTL and ISSUE_DTL, but I am getting following error:-
ORA-04091: table PURCHASE_DTL is mutating, trigger/function may not see it
and the value of 'BRANCH_ITEM_STOCK.purchase_qty' is updated to 10 instead of 18.
The table structure and data is given below:
-- ============================================================
-- Table: BRANCH_ITEM_STOCK
-- ============================================================
create table BRANCH_ITEM_STOCK
BRANCH_CODE NUMBER(6) not null,
ITEM_CODE NUMBER(6) not null,
PURCHASE_QTY NUMBER(6) null ,
RECEIPT_QTY NUMBER(6) null ,
ISSUE_QTY NUMBER(6) null ,
BALANCE_QTY NUMBER(6) null ,
REMARKS VARCHAR2(100) null ,
constraint PK_RA25_BRANCH_ITEM_STOCK primary key (BRANCH_CODE, ITEM_CODE)
-- ============================================================
-- Table: PURCHASE_MST
-- ============================================================
create table PURCHASE_MST
BRANCH_CODE NUMBER(6) not null,
PURCHASE_YR NUMBER(6) not null,
PURCHASE_NO NUMBER(6) not null,
PURCHASE_DT DATE not null,
QUOTATION_NO NUMBER(6) not null,
QUOTATION_YR NUMBER(4) not null,
VENDOR_CODE NUMBER(6) not null,
RECEIPT_NO VARCHAR2(25) null ,
constraint PK_PURCHASE_HDR primary key (BRANCH_CODE, PURCHASE_YR, PURCHASE_NO)
-- ============================================================
-- Table: PURCHASE_DTL
-- ============================================================
create table PURCHASE_DTL
BRANCH_CODE NUMBER(6) not null,
PURCHASE_YR NUMBER(6) not null,
PURCHASE_NO NUMBER(6) not null,
REC_SNO NUMBER(6) not null,
ITEM_CODE NUMBER(6) not null,
ITEM_QTY NUMBER(6) not null,
ITEM_PRICE NUMBER not null,
ITEM_AMT NUMBER not null,
constraint PK_PURCHASE_DTL primary key (BRANCH_CODE, PURCHASE_YR, PURCHASE_NO, REC_SNO)
-- ============================================================
-- Table: ISSUE_MST
-- ============================================================
create table ISSUE_HDR
BRANCH_CODE NUMBER(6) not null,/* Issued from Branch*/
ISSUE_YR NUMBER(6) not null,
ISSUE_NO NUMBER(6) not null,
ISSUE_DT DATE not null,
ISSUED_BY VARCHAR2(15) not null,
ISSUED_TO_BRANCH VARCHAR2(15) not null,
ISSUE_STATUS NUMBER(6) null,
constraint PK_ISSUE_HDR primary key (BRANCH_CODE, ISSUE_YR, ISSUE_NO)
-- ============================================================
-- Table: ISSUE_DTL
-- ============================================================
create table ISSUE_DTL
BRANCH_CODE NUMBER(6) not null,
ISSUE_YR NUMBER(6) not null,
ISSUE_NO NUMBER(6) not null,
REC_SNO VARCHAR2(25) not null,
ITEM_CODE NUMBER(6) not null,
ITEM_DTL VARCHAR2(400) null ,
ITEM_QTY NUMBER(6) null ,
RECEIPT_QTY NUMBER(6) null ,
constraint PK_RA25_ISSUE_DTL primary key (BRANCH_CODE, ISSUE_YR, ISSUE_NO, REC_SNO)
Assume that the Contents of PURCHASE_MST is as follows:
SELECT branch_code, purchase_yr, purchase_no FROM PURCHASE_HDR;
BRANCH_CODE PURCHASE_YR PURCHASE_NO
100 2008 1
100 2009 1
100 2009 2
Now I tried to insert follwing values to the PURCHASE_DTL table:
insert into purchase_dtl (BRANCH_CODE,PURCHASE_YR,PURCHASE_NO,rec_sno,
ITEM_CODE,item_QTY)
Values (100,2008,1,1,4,5)
insert into purchase_dtl (BRANCH_CODE,PURCHASE_YR,PURCHASE_NO,rec_sno,
ITEM_CODE,item_QTY)
Values (100,2009,1,1,4,2)
insert into purchase_dtl (BRANCH_CODE,PURCHASE_YR,PURCHASE_NO,rec_sno,
ITEM_CODE,item_QTY)
Values (100,2009,2,1,4,6)
commit
Now Contents of table ' PURCHASE_DTL ' is as follows:
BRANCH_CODE PURCHASE_YR PURCHASE_NO REC_SNO ITEM_CODE ITEM_QTY
100 2008 1 1 4 5
100 2009 1 1 4 2
100 2009 2 1 4 6
I want to write a trigger which will insert/update/delete data into/from BRANCH_ITEM_STOCK,
so that the contents of column Purchase_qty of table BRANCH_ITEM_STOCK should be as follows:
BRANCH_CODE ITEM_CODE PURCHASE_QTY RECEIPT_QTY ISSUE_QTY BALANCE_QTY
100 4 13 0 0 13
[Note: i.e BRANCH_ITEM_STOCK.PURCHASE_QTY = SUM(PURCHASE_DTL.item_qty)
where PURCHASE_DTL.branch_code=100
AND PURCHASE_DTL.item_code=4
Now run the following update statement.
update purchase_dtl
set item_qty= 10
where BRANCH_code=100
and purchase_yr in ( 2008) and purchase_no =1 and rec_sno = 1 AND item_code = 4
commit
Now the actual contents of column Purchase_qty of table BRANCH_ITEM_STOCK should be updated as follows:
BRANCH_CODE ITEM_CODE PURCHASE_QTY RECEIPT_QTY ISSUE_QTY BALANCE_QTY
100 4 18 0 0 18
But I am facing problem here. I am getting following error:-
ORA-04091: table PURCHASE_DTL is mutating, trigger/function may not see it
and the value of purchase qty is updated to 10 instead of 18
Similarly if any issue of items happen (for eg:- issue_qty=2 to branch_code 200), then the purchase_qty =18,issue_qty=2 , balance_qty:=18-2=16 .
So for branch_code 200 , receipt_qty = 2.
Pls help me how to achieve the above .
Source code which I tried is given below : (but confused at the end )..please help
CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER trg_purchase_dtl
BEFORE INSERT ON PURCHASE_DTL
for each row
declare
-- local variables here
l_qty number(6);
l_cnt NUMBER;
BEGIN
BEGIN
SELECT COUNT(*) into l_cnt
FROM BRANCH_item_stock b
WHERE b.BRANCH_code = :new.BRANCH_code
AND b.item_code = :new.item_code ;
dbms_output.put_line('1.after selet cnt= '||l_cnt);
EXCEPTION when no_data_found then
l_cnt := 0;
dbms_output.put_line('2.in expt NDF selet cnt= '||l_cnt);
null;
END;
IF INSERTING THEN
dbms_output.put_line('3.before if ...going to insert ');
IF l_cnt = 0 THEN
dbms_output.put_line('hihhiii.......lcnt=0...item_code='||:old.item_code||'~l_qty='||l_qty);
IF INSERTING THEN
INSERT INTO BRANCH_ITEM_STOCK
(BRANCH_code,Item_Code, PURCHASE_QTY,RECEIPT_QTY, issue_qty, balance_qty)
VALUES(:NEW.BRANCH_code,:NEW.Item_Code, :NEW.ITEM_QTY,0, 0, 0);
END IF;
ELSIF l_cnt >0 THEN
SELECT purchase_qty into l_qty
FROM BRANCH_Item_Stock
WHERE BRANCH_code = :new.BRANCH_code
AND item_code = :new.item_code ;
l_qty := l_qty + :NEW.ITEM_QTY;
dbms_output.put_line('6.after selet qty= '||l_qty ||'~new qty='||:NEW.ITEM_QTY||'~old qty='||:OLD.ITEM_QTY);
dbms_output.put_line('7.before update '||l_qty);
-- IF INSERTING OR UPDATING THEN
UPDATE BRANCH_ITEM_STOCK
SET PURCHASE_QTY = l_qty
WHERE BRANCH_code = :new.BRANCH_code
AND item_code = :new.item_code ;
dbms_output.put_line('8.after update= '||l_qty);
--END IF;
END IF;
END IF; -- end of INSERTING
-- END;
--EXCEPTION WHEN DUP_VAL_ON_INDEX THEN
IF UPDATING THEN
dbms_output.put_line('9.if UPDATING...qty= '||l_qty ||'~new qty='||:NEW.ITEM_QTY||'~old qty='||:OLD.ITEM_QTY);
BEGIN
dbms_output.put_line('~old unotcode='||:old.BRANCH_code||'~old.item_code='||:OLD.ITEM_CODE||'~old itemqty='||:old.item_qty);
dbms_output.put_line('~new unotcode='||:new.BRANCH_code||'~new.item_code='||:new.ITEM_CODE||'~new itemqty='||:new.item_qty);
SELECT NVL(SUM(item_qty), 0) into l_qty
FROM Ra25_Purchase_Dtl
WHERE BRANCH_code IN ( :old.BRANCH_code )
AND item_code in ( :old.item_code)
AND item_qty <> :old.item_code ;
EXCEPTION WHEN OTHERS THEN
dbms_output.put_line('10.in EWO'||sqlerrm);
END;
--l_qty := l_qty + :NEW.ITEM_QTY;
dbms_output.put_line('11.after selet qty= '||l_qty ||'~new qty='||:NEW.ITEM_QTY||'~old qty='||:OLD.ITEM_QTY);
UPDATE BRANCH_ITEM_STOCK
SET PURCHASE_QTY = l_qty --:new.item_qty
WHERE BRANCH_code = :old.BRANCH_code
AND item_code = :old.item_code ;
dbms_output.put_line('13.after update ');
END IF;
IF DELETING THEN
DELETE FROM BRANCH_ITEM_STOCK
WHERE BRANCH_CODE = :OLD.BRANCH_code
AND ITEM_CODe = :OLD.item_code;
END IF;
end trg_purchase_dtl;
Please help me how to resolve this problem asap.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Hi,
Welcome to the forum!
See this thread [Avoiding Mutating Tables|http://asktom.oracle.com/tkyte/Mutate/index.html]
Tip: to preserve formatted code enclose it between {noformat}{noformat} tags (start and end tags are the same) :)
Thank you for posting DDL and DML of basic data, all people that post should follow this approach.
Regards, -
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PLAT NUMBER := NULL;
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FROM POINT$_VIEW /* THIS LINE REPORS ERROR*/
WHERE player_id = layer_id AND ppoint_id = point_id;
BEGIN
PSRID := 8265;
OPEN get_lonlat(pPoint_ID,Player_ID);
FETCH get_lonlat INTO PLON, PLAT;
RETURN MDSYS.SDO_GEOMETRY(2001,PSRID,MDSYS.SDO_POINT_TYPE(PLON,PLAT,NULL),NULL ,NULL);
END GET_POINT_GEOM;
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By the way, a spatail index is built on this function. Does this make any differences on this point? -
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I create this trigger:
CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER pr_test
after insert ON AM
FOR EACH ROW
declare
appo_pr varchar2(64):= null;
BEGIN
select name
into appo_pr
from AS
where AS_ID=:new.AS_ID;
insert into AM (name) values (appo_pr);
END pr_test;
I insert before a new AS_ID and name in tab AS but when I insert a new record in tab AM I get this error:
ORA-04091: table AM is mutating, trigger/function may not see it
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ORA-04088: error during execution of trigger PR_TEST'
I'd like to create a trigger that when I insert a new record in AM It verify the value in col name of AS and insert this value in col name of AM.
What I wrong in this trigger??
How can I modify it??
Thanks
RafTry this:
CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER pr_test
before insert ON AM
FOR EACH ROW
declare
appo_pr AS.name%TYPE;
BEGIN
select name
into appo_pr
from AS
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:new.name = appo_pr;
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ORA-04091:table XYZ is mutating,trigger/function may not see it ORA-06512
Hi everybody
i am facing mutating problem during data deletion fron XYZ table as
ORA-04091:table XYZ is mutating,trigger/function may not see it ORA-06512 at "user.procdure_name",line 39 ORA-065
i have table XYZ and have database trigger on this table
and also have procedure "user.abc" in this procedure m selecting data from xyz tableYou didn't post the actual code. I was more interested in seeing table name and the trigger body.
Anyways, mutation problem comes when you refer the same table on the trigger, on which it is based for some data manipulation on that table.
For e.g, If inside your trigger body, you are doing INSERT on the same table, then it'll definitely result in mutation problem because this trigger will be fired endlessly (as it is after insert trigger).
Please mark answer as helpful / correct, if it helps you
Navnit -
ORA-04091: table ACCESSLOG is mutating, trigger/function may not see it
Hi
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CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER EMP_ACCESS
AFTER INSERT
ON ACCESSLOG
REFERENCING NEW AS NEW OLD AS OLD
FOR EACH ROW
DECLARE
tmpVar NUMBER;
BEGIN
IF ( :NEW.INOUT = 'OUT' ) THEN
SELECT 'X'
INTO tmpVar
FROM ACCESSLOG
WHERE EMPLOYEEID = :NEW.EMPLOYEEID
AND LOGDATE = :NEW.LOGDATE
AND INOUT ='IN' ;
IF tmpVar IS NULL THEN
INSERT INTO Emp_All_Moves_Absent (
EMP_NO,
ATT_DATE,
ATT_FLAG,
ATT_TIME_IN,
ATT_TIME_OUT,
VAC_COD,
MIS_CODE,
DAY_FLAG ,
POSTEDFLAG,
ATT_TIME_IN_PLANNED,ATT_TIME_OUT_PLANNED)
VALUES
(to_number(to_char(:NEW.employeeid,99999)),
TO_DATE(:NEW.LOGDATE,'DD/MM/YYYY'),
'ABS' ,
to_date(:NEW.LOGTIME,'HH24:MI:SS'),
to_date(:NEW.LOGTIME,'HH24:MI:SS'),
NULL,
NULL,
'WORK',
0,
NULL,NULL);
END IF;
ELSIF ( :NEW.INOUT = 'IN' ) THEN
SELECT 'X'
INTO tmpVar
FROM ACCESSLOG
WHERE EMPLOYEEID = :NEW.EMPLOYEEID
AND LOGDATE = :NEW.LOGDATE-1
AND INOUT ='IN' ;
IF tmpVar IS NULL THEN
INSERT INTO Emp_All_Moves_Absent (
EMP_NO,
ATT_DATE,
ATT_FLAG,
ATT_TIME_IN,
ATT_TIME_OUT,
VAC_COD,
MIS_CODE,
DAY_FLAG ,
POSTEDFLAG,
ATT_TIME_IN_PLANNED,ATT_TIME_OUT_PLANNED)
VALUES
(to_number(to_char(:NEW.employeeid,99999)),
TO_DATE(:NEW.LOGDATE-1,'DD/MM/YYYY'),
'ABS' ,
to_date(:NEW.LOGTIME,'HH24:MI:SS'),
to_date(:NEW.LOGTIME,'HH24:MI:SS'),
NULL,
NULL,
'WORK',
0,
NULL,NULL);
END IF;
END IF;
EXCEPTION
WHEN OTHERS THEN
-- Consider logging the error and then re-raise
RAISE;
END EMP_ACCESS_LOG_OUT;
Urgent help is highly appreciated..
Regards,
Abdetu..Thanks Jens Petersen for reply
now i want to make sure of one thing that i have to follow the steps but the last one i will replace it with my trigger NO?
SQL> create or replace package state_pkg
2 as
3 type ridArray is table of rowid index by binary_integer;
4
4 newRows ridArray;
5 empty ridArray;
6 end;
7 /
Package created.
SQL> create or replace trigger parent_bi
2 before insert or update on parent
3 begin
4 state_pkg.newRows := state_pkg.empty;
5 end;
6 /
Trigger created.
SQL> create or replace trigger parent_aifer
2 after insert or update of status on parent for each row
3 begin
4 state_pkg.newRows( state_pkg.newRows.count+1 ) := :new.rowid;
5 end;
6 /
Trigger created.
---------------------now come my trigger instead of the following one ??---------------
SQL> create or replace trigger parent_ai
2 after insert or update of status on parent
3 begin
4 for i in 1 .. state_pkg.newRows.count loop
5 insert into log_table
6 select theKey, status, effDate
7 from parent where rowid = state_pkg.newRows(i);
8 end loop;
9 end;
10 /
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ORA-04091: table name is mutating, trigger/function may not see it
Hi,
I have a row level before update trigger written on a table A which calls a procedure to undergo some processing. Procedure has some select queries against table A and it inturn causes the following error.
ORA-04091: table name is mutating, trigger/function may not see it
To overcome this I have used a combination of PL/SQL collection types (nested tables based on the following definition TYPE t_table_a is table of A.colname%TYPE index by binary_integer;), a row level before update trigger and statement level after update trigger. The mutating problem is fixed, but to update one row of data it took around 3 min and I am wondering if its the problem with PL/SQL tables I have used.
In before update trigger I am storing the unique id's which needs to be updated into the PL/SQL table and in the after update trigger I am looping through the PL/SQL table and peforming the rest of the processing by calling in the procedure.
Can anyone help how to minimize the run time of this process or if any other better solution exists?
Thanks for the helpTriggers raise the mutating table issue, because else they could be used to create endless loops. If you work around the mutating table issue, then you should make sure not to create an endless loop yourself. This would be possible.
You description also seems to imply something like this.
Without code it is impossible to say something specific.
- Do you initialize your collection in a before statement trigger?
- Is your looping mechanism somehow broken?
- Do you update the same table again and again and again? -
ORA-04091: table blah is mutating, trigger/function may not see it
ORA-04091: table blah is mutating, trigger/function may not see it
ORA-06512: at "AOLALERE.CHK_FOR_POST", line 7
ORA-06512: at "AOLALERE.CHK_FOR_POST", line 20
ORA-06512: at "AOLALERE.PREPRODDTA_F41021_AFTER_UPDATE", line 14
ORA-04088: error during execution of trigger 'AOLALERE.PREPRODDTA_F41021_AFTER_UPDATE'
TRIGGER preproddta_f41021_after_update
after insert or update
on preproddta.f41021
for each row
declare
--nothing to declare
--pragma autonomous_transaction;
l_lipqoh preproddta.f41021.lipqoh%type;
l_lipcom preproddta.f41021.lipcom%type;
l_lihcom preproddta.f41021.lihcom%type;
l_lilots preproddta.f41021.lilots%type;
l_lilocn preproddta.f41021.lilots%type;
l_lilotn preproddta.f41021.lilots%type;
l_quantity_avail f41021_audit.quantity_avail%type;
l_rec_chk f41021_audit.liitm%type;
begin
--chk_for_post(:new.limcu,:new.liitm);
--if :old.limcu <> ' GBD001' then return; end if;
if :old.lipqoh = :new.lipqoh then
l_lipqoh := :old.lipqoh;
else
l_lipqoh := :new.lipqoh;
end if;
if :old.lipcom = :new.lipcom then
l_lipcom := :old.lipcom;
else
l_lipcom := :new.lipcom;
end if;
if :old.lihcom = :new.lihcom then
l_lihcom := :old.lihcom;
else
l_lihcom := :new.lihcom;
end if;
if :old.lilots = :new.lilots then
l_lilots := :old.lilots;
else
l_lilots := :new.lilots;
end if;
if l_lilots <> ' ' then
l_quantity_avail := - (l_lipcom - l_lihcom);
else
l_quantity_avail := l_lipqoh - (l_lipcom + l_lihcom);
end if;
l_rec_chk := rec_chk(:old.limcu,:old.liitm,l_lilots);
if l_rec_chk is not null then
begin
update f41021_audit
set lipqoh = l_lipqoh,
lipcom = l_lipcom,
lihcom = l_lihcom,
quantity_avail = l_quantity_avail
where limcu = :old.limcu
and liitm = :old.liitm
and lilotn = :old.lilotn
and lilocn = :old.lilocn
and lilots = l_lilots;
end;
else
-- insert record into audit table
begin
insert into f41021_audit
(limcu,
liitm,
lipqoh,
lipcom,
lihcom,
lilots,
lilotn,
lilocn,
quantity_avail)
values
(:old.limcu,
:old.liitm,
l_lipqoh,
l_lipcom,
l_lihcom,
l_lilots,
:old.lilotn,
:old.lilocn,
l_quantity_avail);
end;
end if;
end;
create or replace procedure chk_for_post(p_limcu in varchar2,
p_liitm in number)
is
cursor get_bra_qa(p_limcu in varchar2,
p_liitm in number)is
select liitm,
(sum(lipqoh) - sum(lipcom + lihcom)) qual_avail
from preproddta.f41021 a, preproddta.f4101 b
where limcu = p_limcu
and liitm = imitm
and liitm = p_liitm
group by liitm,imdsc1;
l_bra_qa get_bra_qa%rowtype;
l_itm_bran_qa t_f41021_itm_bran_qa := t_f41021_itm_bran_qa.initialize(p_liitm);
begin
open get_bra_qa(p_limcu,p_liitm);
fetch get_bra_qa into l_bra_qa;
close get_bra_qa;
if l_itm_bran_qa.quantity_avail is null then ---This indicate that there is no record for
---quantity available for the item based on the branch .
l_itm_bran_qa := new t_f41021_itm_bran_qa(p_liitm);
begin
l_itm_bran_qa.liitm := p_liitm;
l_itm_bran_qa.limcu := p_limcu;
l_itm_bran_qa.quantity_avail := l_bra_qa.qual_avail;
l_itm_bran_qa.add_it;
commit;
end;
else
l_itm_bran_qa := t_f41021_itm_bran_qa.initialize(p_liitm);
if l_itm_bran_qa.quantity_avail = l_bra_qa.qual_avail then
null; return;
else
begin
l_itm_bran_qa.liitm := p_liitm;
l_itm_bran_qa.limcu := p_limcu;
l_itm_bran_qa.quantity_avail := l_bra_qa.qual_avail;
l_itm_bran_qa.send_to_DB;
commit;
end;
end if;
end if;
end;Thanks,
I comment it out cos it was causing the problem this is the code:
The following error has occurred:
ORA-04091: table PREPRODDTA.F41021 is mutating, trigger/function may not see it
ORA-06512: at "AOLALERE.CHK_FOR_POST", line 7
ORA-06512: at "AOLALERE.CHK_FOR_POST", line 20
ORA-06512: at "AOLALERE.PREPRODDTA_F41021_AFTER_UPDATE", line 98
ORA-04088: error during execution of trigger 'AOLALERE.PREPRODDTA_F41021_AFTER_UPDATE'
TRIGGER preproddta_f41021_after_update
after insert or update
on preproddta.f41021
for each row
declare
--nothing to declare
--pragma autonomous_transaction;
l_lipqoh preproddta.f41021.lipqoh%type;
l_lipcom preproddta.f41021.lipcom%type;
l_lihcom preproddta.f41021.lihcom%type;
l_lilots preproddta.f41021.lilots%type;
l_lilocn preproddta.f41021.lilots%type;
l_lilotn preproddta.f41021.lilots%type;
l_quantity_avail f41021_audit.quantity_avail%type;
l_rec_chk f41021_audit.liitm%type;
begin
--if :old.limcu <> ' GBD001' then return; end if;
if :old.lipqoh = :new.lipqoh then
l_lipqoh := :old.lipqoh;
else
l_lipqoh := :new.lipqoh;
end if;
if :old.lipcom = :new.lipcom then
l_lipcom := :old.lipcom;
else
l_lipcom := :new.lipcom;
end if;
if :old.lihcom = :new.lihcom then
l_lihcom := :old.lihcom;
else
l_lihcom := :new.lihcom;
end if;
if :old.lilots = :new.lilots then
l_lilots := :old.lilots;
else
l_lilots := :new.lilots;
end if;
if l_lilots <> ' ' then
l_quantity_avail := - (l_lipcom - l_lihcom);
else
l_quantity_avail := l_lipqoh - (l_lipcom + l_lihcom);
end if;
l_rec_chk := rec_chk(:old.limcu,:old.liitm,l_lilots);
if l_rec_chk is not null then
begin
update f41021_audit
set lipqoh = l_lipqoh,
lipcom = l_lipcom,
lihcom = l_lihcom,
quantity_avail = l_quantity_avail
where limcu = :old.limcu
and liitm = :old.liitm
and lilotn = :old.lilotn
and lilocn = :old.lilocn
and lilots = l_lilots;
end;
else
-- insert record into audit table
begin
insert into f41021_audit
(limcu,
liitm,
lipqoh,
lipcom,
lihcom,
lilots,
lilotn,
lilocn,
quantity_avail)
values
(:old.limcu,
:old.liitm,
l_lipqoh,
l_lipcom,
l_lihcom,
l_lilots,
:old.lilotn,
:old.lilocn,
l_quantity_avail);
end;
end if;
chk_for_post(:new.limcu,:new.liitm);
return;
end;
create or replace procedure chk_for_post(p_limcu in varchar2,
p_liitm in number)
is
cursor get_bra_qa(p_limcu in varchar2,
p_liitm in number)is
select liitm,
(sum(lipqoh) - sum(lipcom + lihcom)) qual_avail
from preproddta.f41021 a, preproddta.f4101 b
where limcu = p_limcu
and liitm = imitm
and liitm = p_liitm
group by liitm,imdsc1;
l_bra_qa get_bra_qa%rowtype;
l_itm_bran_qa t_f41021_itm_bran_qa := t_f41021_itm_bran_qa.initialize(p_liitm);
begin
open get_bra_qa(p_limcu,p_liitm);
fetch get_bra_qa into l_bra_qa;
close get_bra_qa;
if l_itm_bran_qa.quantity_avail is null then ---This indicate that there is no record for
---quantity available for the item based on the branch .
l_itm_bran_qa := new t_f41021_itm_bran_qa(p_liitm);
begin
l_itm_bran_qa.liitm := p_liitm;
l_itm_bran_qa.limcu := p_limcu;
l_itm_bran_qa.quantity_avail := l_bra_qa.qual_avail;
l_itm_bran_qa.add_it;
commit;
end;
else
l_itm_bran_qa := t_f41021_itm_bran_qa.initialize(p_liitm);
if l_itm_bran_qa.quantity_avail = l_bra_qa.qual_avail then
null; return;
else
begin
l_itm_bran_qa.liitm := p_liitm;
l_itm_bran_qa.limcu := p_limcu;
l_itm_bran_qa.quantity_avail := l_bra_qa.qual_avail;
l_itm_bran_qa.send_to_DB;
commit;
end;
end if;
end if;
end;
Please sugesst any work around. I need to call calculate changes based on the insert or updates -
ORA-04091: table is mutating, trigger/function may no
Hi all,
I'm trying to create a trigger, but I got the following:
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-04092: cannot ROLLBACK in a trigger
ORA-06512: at "PKG_PROJ", line 63
ORA-04091: table TBL_DATA is mutating, trigger/function may not see it
ORA-06512: at "T$D_INS_TDATA", line 4
ORA-04088: error during execution of trigger 'T$D_INS_TDATA'My trigger is:
CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER T$D_INS_TDATA
AFTER INSERT ON TBL_DATA
FOR EACH ROW
DECLARE
BEGIN
PKG_PROJ.P$INSERT(:NEW.ID);
COMMIT;
END;
/Where meu procedure is:
PROCEDURE P$INSERT
P_ID IN TBL_DATA.ID%TYPE
AS
BEGIN
INSERT INTO TBL_DETAIL
ID_DETAIL, DT_DETAIL, OBS,
SELECT SEQ_DETAIL.NEXTVAL, SYSDATE, 'INSERT TRIGGER TEST'
FROM TBL_DATA DC
AND DC.ID = P_ID
COMMIT WORK;
EXCEPTION
WHEN OTHERS THEN
ROLLBACK;
RAISE_APPLICATION_ERROR(-20102, 'PKG_PROJ.P$INSERT: ' || SQLERRM);
END P$INSERT;Somebody can help me???
thanx!!!! :-)Tad,
I believe you're performing SELECT on the triggering table in the PL/SQL block. In simple words, you're trying to change the information of a table the TRIGGER is created for and you're trying to read data from the same table.
I suggest that you use PL/SQL pragma autonomous_transaction to resolve this, for as per Oracle documentation "The AUTONOMOUS_TRANSACTION pragma instructs the PL/SQL compiler to mark a routine as autonomous (independent). An autonomous transaction is an independent transaction started by another transaction, the main transaction. Autonomous transactions let you suspend the main transaction, do SQL operations, commit or roll back those operations, then resume the main transaction."
Furthermore, you can also refer to the following discussion by Thomas Kyte for further understanding of mutating tables:
Avoiding Mutating Tables
http://asktom.oracle.com/tkyte/Mutate/
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Naveed. -
ORA-04091: table ...is mutating, trigger/function may
when I run a delete on this table I have the error
ORA-04091: table MICRODEV.T086_LIEN_INSC is mutating, trigger/function may not see it
ORA-06512: at "MICRODEV.TG_DEL_T086_LIEN_INSC", line 5
ORA-04088: error during execution of trigger 'MICRODEV.TG_DEL_T086_LIEN_INSC'
How Can I workaround it
CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER "MICRODEV"."TG_DEL_T086_LIEN_INSC"
BEFORE
DELETE ON "MICRODEV"."T086_LIEN_INSC" FOR EACH ROW DECLARE lNbRows NUMBER(1);
BEGIN
IF :OLD.CO_PART_DNOM_SOC = 'DS' THEN
SELECT 1 INTO lNbRows
FROM T086_LIEN_INSC
WHERE NO_SEQ_LIEN_DNOM = :OLD.NO_SEQ_LIEN_INSC
AND NO_INSC = :OLD.NO_INSC
AND CO_PART_DNOM_SOC <> 'PA';
IF lNbRows = 1 THEN
raise_application_error(-20100, 'TRIGGER On Delete (T086_LIEN_INSC)');
END IF;
SELECT 2 INTO lNbRows
FROM T086_LIEN_INSC
WHERE NO_SEQ_LIEN_DNOM = :OLD.NO_SEQ_LIEN_INSC
AND NO_INSC = :OLD.NO_INSC
AND CO_PART_DNOM_SOC = 'PA';
IF lNbRows = 2 THEN
raise_application_error(-20101, 'TRIGGER On Delete (T086_LIEN_INSC)');
END IF;
END IF;
END;when I run a delete on this table I have the error
ORA-04091: table MICRODEV.T086_LIEN_INSC is mutating, trigger/function may not see it
ORA-06512: at "MICRODEV.TG_DEL_T086_LIEN_INSC", line 5
ORA-04088: error during execution of trigger 'MICRODEV.TG_DEL_T086_LIEN_INSC'
How Can I workaround it
CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER "MICRODEV"."TG_DEL_T086_LIEN_INSC"
BEFORE
DELETE ON "MICRODEV"."T086_LIEN_INSC" FOR EACH ROW DECLARE lNbRows NUMBER(1);
BEGIN
IF :OLD.CO_PART_DNOM_SOC = 'DS' THEN
SELECT 1 INTO lNbRows
FROM T086_LIEN_INSC
WHERE NO_SEQ_LIEN_DNOM = :OLD.NO_SEQ_LIEN_INSC
AND NO_INSC = :OLD.NO_INSC
AND CO_PART_DNOM_SOC <> 'PA';
IF lNbRows = 1 THEN
raise_application_error(-20100, 'TRIGGER On Delete (T086_LIEN_INSC)');
END IF;
SELECT 2 INTO lNbRows
FROM T086_LIEN_INSC
WHERE NO_SEQ_LIEN_DNOM = :OLD.NO_SEQ_LIEN_INSC
AND NO_INSC = :OLD.NO_INSC
AND CO_PART_DNOM_SOC = 'PA';
IF lNbRows = 2 THEN
raise_application_error(-20101, 'TRIGGER On Delete (T086_LIEN_INSC)');
END IF;
END IF;
END; -
ORA-04091: table is mutating, trigger/function may not see
Hello All,
I am not an expert in oracle and I have been facing a problem where I get a message as follows :
ORA-04091: table <table> is mutating, trigger/function may not see it
I have a table tab1 which has ID, name, and some other columns. the rows in this table form a parent-child type relationship based on some columns within that table. I have created another table called relationship table. The relationship table has 2 columns ID and parentID. I keep this table up to date using triggers. For example if a new record is inserted or upadted in tab1 which affects the parent - child relationship, i update the relationship table accordingly using an insert / update trigger and it works fine.
I created another trigger as follows
create or replace trigger MY_DELETE_TRIGGER
after delete on tab1
for each row
BEGIN
update relationships a set a.parentID = null where a.parentID = :OLD.ID;
delete from relationships a where a.id = :OLD.ID;
END MY_DELETE_TRIGGER;
Basically what I am doing is, the record once deleted, if it was parent of anybody else, i am setting the parent as null and the record itself, if it was in the relationships as a child, I am removing that row.
This is when I get the table is mutating error, and I don't know how to fix it.
Can anybody please help me,
Thanks in advanceCould you provide more details?
SQL> select * from tab1;
ID NAME
1 test1
2 test2
SQL> select * from relationships;
ID PARENTID
1 1
2 1
SQL> create or replace trigger MY_DELETE_TRIGGER
2 after delete on tab1
3 for each row
4 BEGIN
5 update relationships a set a.parentID = null where a.parentID = :OLD.ID;
6 delete from relationships a where a.id = :OLD.ID;
7 END MY_DELETE_TRIGGER;
8 /
Trigger created.
SQL> delete from tab1
2 where id = 1;
1 row deleted.
SQL> select * from relationships;
ID PARENTID
2
SQL> rollback;
Rollback complete.
SQL> insert into relationships values(1,1);
1 row created.
SQL> select * from relationships;
ID PARENTID
1 1
2 1
1 1
SQL> delete from tab1
2 where id = 1;
1 row deleted.
SQL> select * from relationships;
ID PARENTID
2
SQL> disconnect
Disconnected from Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.2.0.3.0 - 64bit Production
With the Partitioning option
JServer Release 9.2.0.3.0 - Production -
ORA-04091: table ... is mutating, trigger/function may not see it
Hi,
I keep getting this error message for my trigger when performing an
insert..select statement (standard plain old insert works):
ORA-04091: table ... is mutating, trigger/function may not see it
The trigger is as follows:
CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER MYTABLE_BEF_INS_CHECK
BEFORE INSERT ON MYTABLE
DECLARE
v_o_id number(10);
BEGIN
IF :new.TYP = 'O' THEN
SELECT 1
INTO v_o_id
FROM MYTABLE WHERE TYP = 'O' AND ID=:new.ID;
END IF;
END;
The thing is the trigger works fine for a standard insert like:
insert into MYTABLE( id,typ)
values(426672,'O')
No problem the above works. But when I try an insert select..it
fails.
insert into MYTABLE( id,typ)
SELECT x_id, 'O' from AnyOtherTable;
the above will fail.
Anyone an idea why this is the case??
thx.Hi,
OK OK !!!! This was a copy/paste error. FOR EACH ROW was just not pasted here. Full trigger again:
CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER MYTABLE_BEF_INS_CHECK
BEFORE INSERT ON MYTABLE
for each row
DECLARE
v_o_id number(10);
BEGIN
IF :new.TYP = 'O' THEN
SELECT 1
INTO v_o_id
FROM MYTABLE WHERE TYP = 'O' AND ID=:new.ID;
END IF;
END;
But I want to know why I DO NOT get this problem with the standard insert statement but only with the insert...select.
thx.
S.
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