Netting PIRs

Hey Gurus,
We have a situation in which our products are make to order and we have some lower level items (60002820) associated with the top level product 8000063 that is sales order stock.
The problem that I am running into is that we are creating PIRs for MRP one year out for the top level material but when a sales order drops into the system, we are not seeing the PIRs netted. We are using strategy 50 for the top level material to recognize sales order stock for lower level items and. Can you guys help me understand what I need to do to net the PIR's in the system against the sales orders and which screen I can see what the sales order demand is compared to the PIR and the netting of the two. I realize I am asking for a function simliar to Demand Planning in APO but I thought that ther might be a screen in SAP that has a GUI feel that I can see this at other than MD04.

Hi Nina,
Please check the fwd & backward consumption parameters maintained in the material master for the FG.
If any additional info is required, revert back.
If helpful award points
Regards,
Vivek
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Edited by: Vivek on Feb 6, 2009 12:40 AM

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I've never seen this expression in SAP online help / OSS notes. Where did you here it?
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Short text
Price Determination for Purchasing Info Records
The report calculates the current prices of the info records and (if desired) updates the latter with the results.
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