NI Robotic Starter it

Hello
I'm interested about this kit " DANI ".. really I'm planning to buy it to have a training on the sbRIO 9632 in real time applications.
My question is after using this kit in training with some labview examples...Can I be able to use the sbRIO 9632 in another application also for controlling DC motors.
As I would like to build a DC Motor Position control project
using a pan tilt mechanism and I'm thinking to get use of the sbRIO 9632 and the motor driver circuit on this kit and use them for Pan tilt Mechansim
I already waiting for a pan tilt mechansim having two 12DC motors, this mechansim has also a pot. for feedback.
Shall I go on and buy this robotic kit and get trained ?
Am I able to disammble it (without losing its function as a robot when reassembled) and use the needed boards (sbRIO9632 and motor Driver circuits) in my pan/tilt project?
thanks in advance
A.Hakim
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Thanks for your reply...
I am just wondering and I wish you can give me your experince about
Is thedisassemblyandreassemblingiseasyornot? and any recommendations you can give?
I am planning to use the sbRIO 9632 in PID , Fuzzy and NN algorithms..........can these algorithms downloaded on this board?
I will need also the motor driver circuit on this kit
Any recommendations
Dont forget that I will learn and get a good practice using this kit first and then I will manag to siassemble Kit
A.Hakim

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I have this great kit and interested to do a kind of research of PID control on the two DC motors.
I already saw links that can do this job but I noticed that I can not find any technical datasheet having the motor paramters ( Mechanical or electrical)
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Thanks for your reply, but realy these information I knew, I need more information like a datasheet for this DC motors concerning the electrical and mechanical parameters.
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