Oracle Forms is a useless and pointless product.

Hi to everyone,
This is a rant on the stupidity of Oracle Forms. From my point of view, it is pointless and VERY PAINFUL to develop.
Come on, who in the right would use Oracle FORMS to develop database applications? Heck, I can develop my very own web application in Servlet and JSP twice as quick as this piece of crappy framework can produce. Who are you trying to kid? Tie down PL/SQL to the application level? The very idea of FORMS is bullshit.
To whoever who is reading this, please flame me all you want. Oracle Forms is a crappy product. Dont't waste your time and efforts using it. You are better off using some other MORE PRODUCTIVE framework. So there.

user549194 wrote:
Hi to everyone,
This is a rant on the stupidity of Oracle Forms. From my point of view, it is pointless and VERY PAINFUL to develop.
Come on, who in the right would use Oracle FORMS to develop database applications? Heck, I can develop my very own web application in Servlet and JSP twice as quick as this piece of crappy framework can produce. Who are you trying to kid? Tie down PL/SQL to the application level? The very idea of FORMS is bullshit.
To whoever who is reading this, please flame me all you want. Oracle Forms is a crappy product. Dont't waste your time and efforts using it. You are better off using some other MORE PRODUCTIVE framework. So there.Hello,
I have seen many threads speaking about forms future but discussions were also MORE PRODUCTIVE as your framework
pointless ? I think your thread is pointless...
I will not make the pro-forms against the world... There are so many tools, just make the right choice for your needs.
so go back to your fantastic productive framework and have success with it.
regards
JeanYves

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