Problem accessing mounted ntfs partitions

Hi,
I have problems accessing ntfs partitions as a non root user. The user trying to acces the partition is in usergroup wheel and has sudo acces.
/etc/fstab looks like this:
/dev/sda5 /media/winC ntfs defaults 0 2
/dev/sdb1 /media/winD ntfs defaults 0 2
It does not matter where I mount them (e.g. /home/user/media/winC), if i try cd-ing into the directory, it tells me:
cd /medi/winC
-bash: cd: /media/winC: Permission denied
When i try the following, it tells me:
sudo cd /medi/winC
sudo: cd: command not found
which I find a bit strange, but ok.
Any pointers what I am doing wrong? cd-ing as root works, but i would like to acces it as a normal user too. Using the following options did not work for me:
rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,users,async
mount -l tells me the following when using the options stated above:
/dev/sda5 on /media/winC type ntfs (ro,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,uid=0,gid=0,fmask=0177,dmask=077,nls=utf8,errors=continue,mtf_zone_multiplier=1)
Thanks for any pointers!

Trilby wrote:
You should use ntfs-3g instead of ntfs.  I'm not sure if that will solve this problem, though it might, but it will prevent others.
As for "sudo cp" failing, that is not odd at all: `cd` is not a program, it is a shell builtin - there is no `cd` binary for sudo to execute.
Thanks for the explanation. I will try ntfs-3g as soon as I manage to connect to the internet again.

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    Last edited by t0m5k1 (2012-08-29 08:30:11)

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    I can now mount the drive as an ordinary user.
    Then I set mpd back to run as user mpd, checked the audio group had access to all the mpd folders, and all was well.
    One hiccup which you might not have: mpd was unable to access my (external) sound card at first.  To solve this one, I used
    chmod 770 /dev/snd -R && chgrp audio /dev/snd -R
    As far as I can remember, that's everything.
    Last edited by Henry Flower (2010-04-20 12:54:26)

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