Processing Static (via automatic row processing) & Dynmaic fields

Hi,
I have a page that has 2 sections. Section S is statically driven which I'd like to process via a Automatic Row Process DML. Section D is for dynamic fields which I process via a PL/SQL script.
I need to process Section D (dynamic) first.
Now they're 2 things that I'm noticing when I try this. Can someone please confirm.
- After my process of Section D it seems to make a commit. I know this since I have a error in Section S, and the values from Section D are committed to the DB. I need to make sure a commit only occurs after all page processes have completed error free.
- My Automatic Row Process DML for Section S doesn't seem to work at all. It can't seem to read the values at all. I know this since I have several columns which are "NOT NULL" and the appropriate error messages are being raised. The Automatic Row Fetch for Section S does work properly.
For the time being the work around is writing a process for the entire page which includes both Section S and Section D. The thing is I thought that HTMLDB would be able to help me out a lot with Section S since it had static fields etc.

Martin - I would try to debug these two processes separately. If the Auto DML process isn't firing, perhaps the button used to submit the page isn't setting the request to one of the standard values recognized by the Auto DML package ('INSERT','CREATE','CREATE_AGAIN','CREATEAGAIN' for inserts and 'SAVE','APPLY CHANGES','UPDATE','UPDATE ROW','CHANGE','APPLY' or like 'APPLY%CHANGES%' for update).
A commit happens whenever session state is changed, so if your process saves an item value, that would do it. If you think that is not the cause of the commit, let me know the details of the process and I'll take a closer look. There is no way to prevent the commit when session state is updated.
Scott

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Hi,
I have a form that I built through the form Wizard which has an automatic row processing function. It is working very well, except that any new fields I add to the form are not being updated in the database when the row is processed. I have set up the field exactly the same as other fields which are working and were originaly created by the wizard. I have deleted and recreated the row processing Page Process, but nothing seems to make it work. Have I missed anything? I don't want to recreate my page from scratch each time I want to add a new field.
Thanks,
Steve

if you're positive that your new fields/columns update correctly when you use Text Field items and not when you use Select List ones, i'd check to see what your select lists are returning. a good way to see exactly what your form got from your select list items is to check the session state for your select list items right after you submit your page (clicking the "Session" link in your developer toolbar in your runtime environment is a good way to get to this info). also, even though you said your added Text Fields work and your Select Lists don't, i'd still check the "Source Type" and "Source value or expression" fields of your select list items to make sure they're set correctly. for form items to work with your table in htmldb auto-dml processing, you need to set the "Source Type" to "Database Column" and the "Source value or expression" to the case-sensitive name of your db column.
hope this helps,
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Are 'read only' items causing my automatic row processing to fail?

I have a form that uses automatic row processing to update my table.
I recently had to add a check to lock down the fields using the read only condition where a record has been 'approved'. So, I turned off all of the fields and hid the update button.
Now they want me to check to see if the user is a manager, and if so, allow them to see the update button, and make a single field on the form modifiable.
I have the user identified as a manager, and can make the field accept the change (a yes/no combo box). Yet when they click the update button, the form just sits there. A branch is supposed to fire on hitting that button, taking them back to the previous report, but it doesn't happen. The source of the combo box in question uses a column on the table, and works fine when the form has all of the fields showing for modification.
I had some validations that I finally set to never fire, thinking that they were failing and just not giving the error messages. I know a bad sql or pl/sql atatement in a validation will cause the form to just keep sitting there doing nothing, and thought it might help.
Several of the various fields are combo boxes, several are text boxes.
I'm stumped.
Shall I keep the regular update button hidden whether it is a manager or not (because it has been 'approved'), and enable a new button that fires off a process to update the one field that the manager may want to change? Does making a field 'read only' always have a detrimental effect on the auto processes I've been counting on? Is that if fact what is happening now?
Thanks in advance for any advice or comments on this.
Clayton

Hi, Scott.
My version is 3.0.0.00.20
I have received info to set up the application, though I have not activated it as yet. I'm reluctant to try to load up the various tables to make it work. It could be done.
My workaround is to that the user (a manager) fires off to another form to show an individual record, and ask if he/she really wants to make this change. On submit, they will be taken back to the original locked down form, and I will update the single field in that process of returning them. This will actually be a plus, in that I expect to show them all of the 'duplicate' entries for that item, and show them that by 'activating' this particular item, they will 'deactivate' the one duplicate that is currently active. Or, if they are deactivating the sole item that is active, that there will in fact be no active items in the system. Convoluted as heck, but they swear this is how they've been doing business with their briefcases and file cabinets of Excel files. I'm surprise they even float at this point (these are ships we're talking about).
This all may be due to the form originally having a next/previous/count process once arrived at my clicking on the edit button of the report of items. All of that has been hidden away, and though the fields exist of the form, they are not used. They only see the current item that they clicked on from the report.
I read up a little on session state, as well as posts with the debug error I was getting. I'm still not on board with the whole issue of 'state'. Items stay as they are until they're changed, no? I suppose that sounds simplistic.
One of the things that caught my eye was several combo box lists that on read only mode, showed [] square brackets. Which, in some cases is okay.
What I'll try to do is set up a public application - for future use if nothing else. I'm going to be working on this for awhile. I have more than a bit of work to do to cleanse the data as well as get rid of the single sign on requirement (I'll assume that I should have to do this) in order to share the app.
I know you're expecting me to have this up and running for you to look at, but I'm under the gun. And they actually like my workaround.
I'll keep everybody informed, one way or another.
Clayton

Solved: Delete Using Automatic Row Processing

See Scott's reply below for the answer.
Hi there,
I have an application built in APEX 3.0.1 that I would like to be able to use a button to delete a single row from an underlying database table (owned by the parsing schema).
My APEX page has a 3 HTML regions on it:
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I'd like this button to be used to Delete the Selected Item and thought I'd be able to use a Data Manipulation Page Process - Automatic Row Processing (DML) page process to do this.
However, when I go through the wizard the Select item containing primary key column value field has no values in the search list.
My first question is why was there no values in the list?
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What is the best practice method to do DML actions on the underlying database tables. The tables are all owned by the parsing schema.
Your help in resolving this matter would be greatly appreciated.
Kind Regards,
Gary.

Gary,
The DML processes (and the creation wizards for them) are for use with items having source type Database Column. If your page items don't use this source type, then neither the Automated Row Fetch nor the Automatic Row Processesing (DML) process types will work.
Scott

Automatic row processing insert fail

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I am running into a problem where my automatic row processing will update and delete records but will not insert. I get the following error.
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Cheers,
Tyson Jouglet

All,
Finally fixed it!!! So if you experience this problem, double check all of your item sources. I was upgrading a date column to a timezone column and subsecuently made it three different items. Long story less long, I left the original date item on the form and deleted the source column name but i forgot to change the item source from database column to something else. This will not effect how apex deletes or updates a record but it will not allow you to insert a new record. I know this is a user error, but maybe this could be added as a validation?
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Automatic Row Processing - Preset a value with value from other page

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Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
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Hi,
these are the values I currently see:
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108 14 P14_CHARACTERISTIC_ID Hidden and Protected Reset to Null No
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108 14 P14_CAPTION Text Field No
108 14 P14_CATEGORY_ID Select List No
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I also have to say that I deleted the computations I created earlier again cause they did not work and I had the same values for these variables. I am trying to (pre)set P14_SHAREDSEVICE_ID to P13_SELSS when I click the create button on page 13.
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Automatic row processing in a validation

Hi,
I have a form on a table (page11) with one process for automatic row processing and I have the buttons Submit and Create.
I have another button f.e. BUTTON_NEW. I have a validation (function returning error text) with "BUTTON_NEW" as When-Button-pressed-Condition. In the validation I did an Insert into another table.
I changed values of items on Page11 and don't press Submit. And then I press "BUTTON_NEW". The validation on BUTTON_NEW works fine. But the changed values are lost. Is there a possibility for an automatic "Submit" or "Create" when BUTTON_NEW is pressed?
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Hi,
these are the values I currently see:
108 14 P14_SELECTEDSS Display as Text (escape special characters, does not save state) No
108 14 P14_CHARACTERISTIC_ID Hidden and Protected Reset to Null No
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108 14 P14_CAPTION Text Field No
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Unfortunately it turns out that one can not create report with form through the wizard if the target table has a primary key that should be updatable. Is that true?
I have a table with only 2 columns 1-code of some type, 2-description. Column 1 is primary key.
I get the following error when I try to change tha value of column 1:
ORA-20001: Error in DML: p_rowid=ass, p_alt_rowid=CURRENCYCODE, p_rowid2=, p_alt_rowid2=. ORA-01403: no data found
I searched through the forum but noone explained why this happens. And the only thing that I think is the reason for this is that Automatic Row Processing does not remember the previous value of the primary key column so its embedded SET statement only has the new value.
Is this a bug?
I don't want to create different processes to update, delete, create. This however involves using temp hidden field to hold the original value of my first column.
Would You fix this to be done automatically in HTMLDB when using the wizard with Automatic Row Processing?
My version is: 1.6.0.00.87
Thanks

Well, actually the wizard succeded but it did not do what I needed: my table is with one column (primary key) and another column (varchar). The wizard asked me for my primary key column and I pointed it, but after it secceeded and I ran the form, the field was hidden. But I wanted it to be avalable for entering/editing so I changed it to a text box type. Does that help?
And another thing what happens if I use the wizzard on a table with to columns which define a composite primary key. when i point them on the relevant page, the next page of the wizzard asks me to choose columns, but there aren't any more because it appears to hide my primary key fields. In this case i really can not use the usard for helping me with automatic processing. This and the previous case I believe are if not bugs then at least "lacks" of the wizzard.

Without Automatic Row Processing (DML)

Hi All
I try to make one page to show use DML statements without standard Automatic Row Process.
What I have:
One page with:
region: Report - select empno, ename, sal, deptno from emp;
region: Form with items: p6_empn, p6_ename, p6_sal, p6_deptno
addictionaly in that moment I have:
process CreateProcess:
begin
insert into emp (empno, ename, sal, deptno)
values (emp_seq.nextval, :P6_ENAME, :P6_SAL, :P6_DEPTNO);
commit;
end;
and button CREATE.
Create Process is fired when I push CREATE button and Insert statement works corecctly. Branch is on the same page. (I use request).
Now I would like to show update and delete statements.
In Report I have in column EMPNO standard button Edit (each row)
(<img src="#IMAGE_PREFIX#edit.gif" alt="Edit">)
I have process SelectProcess:
begin
select ename,sal,deptno
into :p6_ename, :p6_sal, :p6_deptno
from emp
where empno = :p6_empno;
end;
It is fired In Load _ Before Header
When I push Edit in one row I would like to see details of employee in Form, but I see nothing. In session state all is correct - I see :p6.... with name, sal and ...
I dont know how to connect this process with buton and branch.
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Hi,
I have done a quick test for this - [http://htmldb.oracle.com/pls/otn/f?p=25946:1]
On the Edit page, I have a process called P2_LOAD_DATA that runs "On Load - Before Header", is conditional on P2_EMPNO being NOT NULL and using the following code:
BEGIN
SELECT EMPNO, ENAME, JOB
INTO :P2_EMPNO, :P2_ENAME, :P2_JOB
FROM EMP
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END;I have a button with a Button Name setting of "UPDATE" (user sees this as Apply Changes)
I then have a process that runs "On Submit - After Computations and Validations" and is conditional on REQUEST = UPDATE. The code is:
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UPDATE EMP
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One thing to check - do you have a "reset page" process? If so, remove it.
Andy

Understanding "automatic row processing"

hi,
i have problems understanding automatic row processing in apex.
at first i thought there is a relation between page process (fetch row, insert, update,...) and page items / reports.
something like: Item P1_TESTTEXTBOX (Source=Database Column => "TESTCOLUMN") referes to process "FETCH ROW FROM TESTTABLE"
but i havent found any relation.
then i thought there is a "global pool of database columns" (fetched, inserted, updated by a page processes)... when a fetch process loads data from a db-table, all columns from this table are stored in a "dictionary"...but this also didnt seems to be right.
i did some testing to understand the (row fetch) behavior but there a still some questions:
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I'm still not quite sure how automatic row processing (fetch, insert, update) is working...
are there any explanation about this issue? i havent found any information that goes into detail.

ok, some testing later i come to the conclusion that the automatic row processing works like this:
when a row (fetch) process starts, ALL binded Page Items (Source Type=Database Column) tries to load their data from the current fetch-process.
i tried to add 2 different Regions containing some Page Items (TextBox) that binds to a Database Column.
* Region1 should contain Artikle-Information (refers to DB-Table Article)
* Region2 should contain Article-Detail Informations (refers to DB-Table ArticleDetails)
i am not able to create 2 Row fetch processes in 1 page, because i got an error when the first row-fetch process starts "Column [XY] not found in table [YZ]"
obviously there is no way to "link" processes to regions, reports or page items.
or is it possible to create 2 regions (in 1 page) with automated row processing, that refers to different tables ? (region1/report1 => DBTable1, region2/report2 => DBTable2)?
(the only way i see is that i create a view that contains these 2 DBTables, so i only need one row fetch process for this page)
thanks in advance
rene...

Automatic Row Processing?

Hi,
I have a requirement to create forms that insert into multiple tables and returns items from multiple tables. What are my options? Can I still use automatic row processing and fetching?
Thanks in advance.

create multiple regiions embedded with different table

Automatic Row Processing (DML) process is not updating the record

Hi all,
I have an application which was working fine last week and tested and backuped to new application. This Monday, one of the form in that application is not updating the data all of a sudden. I debug that by having page 0 variable and assign the value from the column variable to page 0 variable. Whatever value I changed to the column variable was getting updated to page 0 variable. But it is not updated in the database. So, I changed the success message of the "Automatic Row Processing (DML) process" and I can see the success message on the page, but the column value does not get updated. But when I go back and checked my backup application, that page is working fine. For now, I copy that from the backup application, but I would like to know why this is happening?
Thanks
SHY

Hi Scott,
Thank you very much for your response. Because of the database complexity, I can't create/import the application on the apex.oracle.com. I am just wondering why this is happening. One of my coworker said same thing happened to her in one of her project and it gets resolved once she restart the server. I am not able to restart the server to check and see if this resolved as the application is on the client server. Do we need to clean up any log file? Thanks.
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Automatic Row Processing (DML) - Return Key Into Item

Hello,
This question is on Apex 4.2:
I'm Displaying the [UNIKEY] column value after the record is inserted into the table using :
page process > process row table_name > Source: Automatic Row Processing (DML) > Return Key Into Item > "Item Name"
This works fine while inserting records, my question is why this does not respond on update / delete ?
ϯ LT

LT
Check your branches.
What might be happening is that on insert and update an other branch is followed.
Where the branch of the insert either isn't clearing the cache of the page or is setting the item with it's own value.
The branch on the update on the other hand is clearing the cache of the page and not setting the item.
With a delete there is a clear cache process generate by the wizard. Check if this process is only running on the delete and not on the update.
From memory the process is called something with reset.
If the above doesn't help try to replicate the problem on apex.oracle.com and give access with a guest developer account so we can have a look.
Nicolette

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I have an Automatic Row Processing routine that returns the success message, but it never performs the updates.
I Put a special message in the Process Success and Failure Messages and the Success message comes up everytime with no database updates happening.
I changed the table name to a table that DOESN'T exists just to see if the failure message appears and I still get the Process Success Message.
Any ideas why the DML say's it's success when it's not doing anything?
Edited by: spuchc on Jun 2, 2010 11:48 AM
Edited by: spuchc on Jun 4, 2010 7:48 AM

That doesn't appear to be the issue.
When I update the data for the of views on the page they work fine and have specific button names.
Also I've tried used PL/SQL Expression instead of button controls to fire the DML and it does fire.
Since it's not generating the update statement (when I look in V$SQL), why would APEX even given me back a "Success" message?
Also when I change the view name in the DML process to a bogus name, it still tells me "Success".
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Automatic row processing query should not update key columns

We have an APEX application to maintain a table A, which is referenced by a huge table B (several millions rows). If a row is updated (by automatic row processing), the following update statement is executed.
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My questions are:
Why is column ID updated, this does not make sense?
Is there a way to prevent that behavious or do I have to code the update statements manually instead of using the automatic row processing feature?
Thanks and regards, Maren

m_eschermann wrote:
We have an APEX application to maintain a table A, which is referenced by a huge table B (several millions rows). If a row is updated (by automatic row processing), the following update statement is executed.
update "MM_DWH"."A" set "ID" = :DML_BV0001,"NAME" = ... where "ID" = :p_rowid
Due to the foreign key constraint of table B, we have situations where this update statement is blocked (Enq: TM - contention) for a long time if we have inserts into table B at the same time - I guess.
My questions are:
Why is column ID updated, this does not make sense?
Is there a way to prevent that behavious or do I have to code the update statements manually instead of using the automatic row processing feature?Make sure that you have all the required Primary Key and Foriegn Key indices for the two tables - if missing, it's possible that each update of A is requiring a full table scan of B.
What is column "ID" - the PK for A or the FK to B?

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